£25,099 for a Cossie Rep??
16-11-2005, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomber
Originally Posted by fudgeass
they aint 
nice 13" steelies with 165/80/13 tyres that are shit
they are just there to hide the coilovers 
nice 13" steelies with 165/80/13 tyres that are shit
they are just there to hide the coilovers
16-11-2005, 01:25 PM
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chip whot are you on about?
On one hand lots of rs500 were used in motorsport, and hence probably crashed, dminishing numbers, but on the other hand, a lot of those have been reshelled into new shells and hence still exist
NO RS500 ROAD CARS WHERE USED FOR BUILDING GROUP A SIERRA TOURING CARS, THEY USED NEW MOTORSPORT SHELLS FROM FORD WITH NO SUN ROOF.
WHY WOULD THEY BUY A ROAD CAR AND FROW ALL THE BITS AWAY?
On one hand lots of rs500 were used in motorsport, and hence probably crashed, dminishing numbers, but on the other hand, a lot of those have been reshelled into new shells and hence still exist
NO RS500 ROAD CARS WHERE USED FOR BUILDING GROUP A SIERRA TOURING CARS, THEY USED NEW MOTORSPORT SHELLS FROM FORD WITH NO SUN ROOF.
WHY WOULD THEY BUY A ROAD CAR AND FROW ALL THE BITS AWAY?
16-11-2005, 03:21 PM
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I dont think i really wanna get involved in this one but there woz over 900 LC's made, i dont no the exact number tho! If that helps the arguement?
Thats wicked mate 
17-11-2005, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by martinrs500labatts
this car has it all!
RE-SHELLED
WRONG BLOCK
AND HE HAS CHANGED THE COLOUR!!
AS WHEN IT LEFT TICKFORD IT WAS BLACK.
RE-SHELLED
WRONG BLOCK
AND HE HAS CHANGED THE COLOUR!!
AS WHEN IT LEFT TICKFORD IT WAS BLACK.
17-11-2005, 09:30 AM
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Looking at the claims of the owner if they are true then I think it's fair to say the car is very special from the point of view of being almost entirely new.
But there is a member here (forget his username) with a white 3dr which seems in as good, if not better, condition.
But there is a member here (forget his username) with a white 3dr which seems in as good, if not better, condition.
17-11-2005, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
I think i might put mine on there, i didnt realise reshelled colour change cars were worth so much.
I'll take 20,000 in cash for a quick sale
I'll take 20,000 in cash for a quick sale
And there's people out there who can't even get £4K for a good low mileage Saff at the moment...
17-11-2005, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomber
Originally Posted by chip-3door
I think i might put mine on there, i didnt realise reshelled colour change cars were worth so much.
I'll take 20,000 in cash for a quick sale
I'll take 20,000 in cash for a quick sale
And there's people out there who can't even get £4K for a good low mileage Saff at the moment...
17-11-2005, 09:46 AM
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Personally i dont think any cossie out there is worth 20k never mind more !!
Cars are really only worth what people are willing to pay these days
Cars are really only worth what people are willing to pay these days
17-11-2005, 10:14 AM
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Mike,
you also forgot the gearbox and diff it needs for it to put down the 550bhp.
We are currently saving up for a Quaife box n diff from bernie for the engine Karl is doing for us.
you also forgot the gearbox and diff it needs for it to put down the 550bhp.
We are currently saving up for a Quaife box n diff from bernie for the engine Karl is doing for us.
17-11-2005, 10:21 AM
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Back to the LC/RS500 Debate
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
17-11-2005, 11:03 AM
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i havent ever seen an LC! LOL
I saw an RS500 (could've been a normal 3door with RS500 kit on it, either way, it was very std looking) in an M1 services a few weeks back.
I saw an RS500 (could've been a normal 3door with RS500 kit on it, either way, it was very std looking) in an M1 services a few weeks back.
17-11-2005, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DazS1Turbo
Back to the LC/RS500 Debate
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
17-11-2005, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
Mike,
you also forgot the gearbox and diff it needs for it to put down the 550bhp.
We are currently saving up for a Quaife box n diff from bernie for the engine Karl is doing for us.
you also forgot the gearbox and diff it needs for it to put down the 550bhp.
We are currently saving up for a Quaife box n diff from bernie for the engine Karl is doing for us.
2. The standard diff and gearbox is acceptable on a T4 500bhp car providing i) You don't EVER launch it (and I do mean EVER, the first time you do, will see the planet gears in several pieces
) ii) The box is low mileage and in good condition, it will last 20-30k between rebuilds if i) is adhered to .Chip,
LC's only come in one colour
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17-11-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Chip,
LC's only come in one colour.
LC's only come in one colour
.How the hell would he know it was 3 different Green LC's not the same one 3 times unless he wrote the number plate down each time!
17-11-2005, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. It doesn't have 550bhp.
2. The standard diff and gearbox is acceptable on a T4 500bhp car providing i) You don't EVER launch it (and I do mean EVER, the first time you do, will see the planet gears in several pieces ) ii) The box is low mileage and in good condition, it will last 20-30k between rebuilds if i) is adhered to .
2. The standard diff and gearbox is acceptable on a T4 500bhp car providing i) You don't EVER launch it (and I do mean EVER, the first time you do, will see the planet gears in several pieces
) ii) The box is low mileage and in good condition, it will last 20-30k between rebuilds if i) is adhered to .2. i was advised otherwise - box is ok to 470bhp without launching and diff would be fine without launching.
However, not taking the chance, hence the saving for the Bernie box and diff
17-11-2005, 11:37 AM
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from what i read in the litriture (and the LC dealer being just over the road from me) there were 1440 all in built
the majority of these were left hookers though
and i've seen a fair few (but i live near the dealer and i was wasted by one a few years back when they were new )
built in 1993? how come the dealer had a H plater in his showroom then?
anyway, let's find out how many 500's are left and then we can see how many LC's are left, it's better than playing "I spy" ain't it
the majority of these were left hookers though
and i've seen a fair few (but i live near the dealer and i was wasted by one a few years back when they were new
)built in 1993? how come the dealer had a H plater in his showroom then?
anyway, let's find out how many 500's are left and then we can see how many LC's are left, it's better than playing "I spy" ain't it
17-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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Mike,
Well Karl runs a lot more than he recommends through standard boxes, and they survive (albeit for VERY short periods of time ). So 500bhp is okay for slightly longer periods....
My OE gearbox (with 100+k miles on), lasted 1k miles with 500bhp. The next one (a low mileage example out of a concourse car ), did 20k, but by the time the car's life ended, was noisy as fuck. When the car was rebuilt, I think it lasted another few k before dieing a horrible Irish death .
As you say - belt and braces job is what you are doing.
Well Karl runs a lot more than he recommends through standard boxes, and they survive (albeit for VERY short periods of time
). So 500bhp is okay for slightly longer periods.... My OE gearbox (with 100+k miles on), lasted 1k miles with 500bhp
. The next one (a low mileage example out of a concourse car ), did 20k, but by the time the car's life ended, was noisy as fuck. When the car was rebuilt, I think it lasted another few k before dieing a horrible Irish death .As you say - belt and braces job is what you are doing
.
17-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
from what i read in the litriture (and the LC dealer being just over the road from me) there were 1440 all in built
the majority of these were left hookers though
and i've seen a fair few (but i live near the dealer and i was wasted by one a few years back when they were new )
built in 1993? how come the dealer had a H plater in his showroom then?
anyway, let's find out how many 500's are left and then we can see how many LC's are left, it's better than playing "I spy" ain't it
the majority of these were left hookers though
and i've seen a fair few (but i live near the dealer and i was wasted by one a few years back when they were new
)built in 1993? how come the dealer had a H plater in his showroom then?
anyway, let's find out how many 500's are left and then we can see how many LC's are left, it's better than playing "I spy" ain't it
I think the key thing Mike is missing is that a very large percentage of RS500's ended up staying in the UK (i think they were ALL rhd werent they?) where as only a tiny percentage of the LC's did.
17-11-2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by DazS1Turbo
Back to the LC/RS500 Debate
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Was deffo 3 different LC's Chip
17-11-2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DazS1Turbo
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by DazS1Turbo
Back to the LC/RS500 Debate
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Ive seen 3 differnet LC's over the last 2 weeks in Cumbria - The last time a saw An RS500 was at RSOC Day in the summer at Heavs Hall
LC'S are not as rare as RS 500's IMO
Was deffo 3 different LC's Chip
Personally i have seen more RS500's than LC's but obivously it depends on if there are a group of ford enthusiasts or vauxhall enthusiasts living in the area.
Anyone living near a big cossie tuner probably sees RS500's almost daily!