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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Or Know about multiple phone line wiring.



Want to have 6 telephone points around the new house, how do i go about it?

Just slap a junction box on where the phone line comes into the house? and then sprout 6 wires off that?

Or is there another way?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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use the power of a mighty search engine

basically, where the cable (just 2 wires) comes into the house you must have a master socket with capacitor that gets the ringer. then you need 3 wires to each extension socket. whether you do them in series, paralel, or a mixture, doesn't matter
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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i did try a bit of searching but could come up with much.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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so it doesnt weaken the signal if you do them in series them?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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are you having 6 phones around the house? its not a difficult thing to do either chasng walls out or going exterior are you after a list of parts that you need?

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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house is currently being plastered and boarded so seems pointless to do it after or external when the wires can go behind the walls.

just wondered as regards signal strength

and how its done.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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you can only go 2 points from a master socket or they wont ring..
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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right cheers for clearing that up ben

so how do you get say 6 points then?

piggy back off the 2 points off the master?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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why dont you get a six phone DECT system ??

weve got 4 phones round the house and they work perfect
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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as in cordless slowpoke?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Have 2 masters cabled to wear the phone line comes in, the have 2 point coming of the 2 masters,
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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no it doesn't weaken the signal, cos they're not all used at the same time.

there is a limit to how many phones can be on one line though - each phone has it's own rating.

personally, i would go cordless. you only need one base station (or 2 if you need to cover a large area, have thick walls etc) and several hansets can be registered to those base stations.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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ok will do 4 then and have cordless aswell.

its a bugger having so many rooms
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yes matey dect is digital cordless

i think it stands for digitally encrypted cordless telephone

the modern phones now let you add base stations onto the main phone needing only one phone line

the main phone for us is in the living room whiles theres one in my room, one in the kitchen and one in the garage

and its no crackling or fuzz or shite plus they have intercoms between each handset which is very handy
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Chrissy Bwoy is a BT Engineer
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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ok looks like this is the way then.

will just have it coming into the house at the study, have a couple of points down stairs and then the rest can be DECT
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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wire them in series....
easy peasy
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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i've just wired in 4, two extra's off the masters.

4 is really enough, just was going to put telephone sockets in some of the spares room upstairs.

word to the wise, dont have 7 bedrooms, so many phone and areial points to put in
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Ryan,

This should clear up things....

As a general rule (DIY), wire phones in PARALELL not SERIALLY

All phones will have what is called a REN number. (Ringer Equivalence Number)

This relates to the power required to make a phone ring when you get a call.

An average BT line is able to supply a REN of 4 normally.

ALL phones should display a REN number on it somewhere BY LAW !

Add up all the numbers and if is greater than REN 4 then it is possible that randomly
one or more of the phones may NOT ring when an incoming call occurs.
Also, this draws more power from the exchange and can cause the line
protection to kick in and kill the line in extreme cases.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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well here`s a bt point of view...




you can run as many extensions as you want.. but on 4 phones will ring if a phone is in every socket..

most new builds have a box in every room and run parellel.. ie one box to another from the nte (bt main box)!!!

so best do it this way..

3 wires on the ext.. blue/white and white/blue for the line..

orange white as you bell wire!!!

good luck!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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^^^

that's what i was trying to get at
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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paul, where's the best place to get the box and the main bt box?
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Paul, where's the best place to get the box and the main bt box?
Find a BT engineer in the street and ask him for one or another lol

offer him a drink n he will sort you out im sure.

I would and i think Paul probly would n all eh?

BT will supply the NTE (main box) when the line is installed (if its yet to be installed) the extension sockets depending on size you want can be got from most DIY stores but id stay clear on the ones with small screw connections on the back as i fooking hate them and they always seem to fall out

the IDC versions are much better

if ya want any more help catch me on msn
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Ryan I used to work for cable & Useless fitting phone lines and extensions, have a box up in the loft with loads of master sockets and extension boxes. Even have the proper tool for crimping in the extension wires.

Can bring it monday at the meet if you like? You wont get all six extension of the 1 master socket, only three wires max will crimp and hold so you are going to have to run some in serial. Also as said above make sure you buy phones with as low a REN value as possible.

Cheers

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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lamb chops
Even have the proper tool for crimping in the extension wires.
is it the IW2A? (dunno wat CandW called it lol) or the one that cuts the excess off?

good tool to have
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