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Old 15-11-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Track Days & Track Day Insurance....

Whats the score with it?

Myself and TheBishMan are doing our first track day in December at Brands.

Now i'm not to concerned about crashing lol as i think i'm Damon Hill Nah lol

I mean all i'm killing is my XR2i, while Bish will be in his FRS.

Can anyone help with where we could get track day ins?

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Boing!!

Someone must know
Old 15-11-2005, 06:59 PM
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http://www.trackdays.co.uk/insurance.htm

http://www.morispayment.co.uk/trackday.asp

http://www.uk-trackdays.com/trackday-insurance.htm

Also do a search on Google.
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I'm with greenlight & they quoted me about Ł80 - Ł90 for the day for track insurance So iv'e never bothered with track insurance. Youv'e got more chance of having an accident on the road , if i had a car that was worth 10 or 15 k then i would insure it.

If your going on December the 2nd i'll see you on track look out for a black 3dr

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Yeah thats when were going, looking forward to meeting you

That's Bish's dilemma, his car is worth circa Ł15 - Ł16.5k
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Oooo I might come and watch lol Can't afford to go on track pmsl
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Its only Ł79 Faye!!

Buy all means come tho
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TBH i wouldnt bother with track insurance. Just make sure your a bit sensible about your driving and keep alert to other faster cars and let them pass
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I'm a confident driver tho Andy (Although you prob think otherwise!) Bish on the otherhand, although i can't speak for him directly, isn't so confident at speed.

Thats why were both doing the novice day at Brands, like i said above i'm not to fussed on the accident side. On the other hand Ł15k is a lot of money to lose if you do have an accident.
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Why would i think otherwise paul? I let you drive my RST once didnt I? I seen you drive on country lanes (bit quick for my liking) but other than that you'll be fine on track i reckon

If Mr Bish keeps calm and starts off at confortable speed, the FRS will easily handle running around track without risking its Ł15K price tag, or if he's really really worried remove the number plates
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When I looked into track insurance it wasn't worth a toss, only if you killed someone, or killed yourself. To be honest, if I kill myself I have nothing to worry about......

Very few will cover damage to the car. This is why I will only do a track day where there are no barriers.
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
This is why I will only do a track day where there are no barriers.
What track is that then

I wouldnt bother either tbh, just keep your wits about ya and dont get too cocky and you will be fine.
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Why would i think otherwise Paul? I let you drive my RST once didnt I? I seen you drive on country lanes (bit quick for my liking) but other than that you'll be fine on track i reckon

If Mr Bish keeps calm and starts off at confortable speed, the FRS will easily handle running around track without risking its Ł15K price tag, or if he's really really worried remove the number plates
Very true mate, you did and i still fantasie over that drive home and the country lane drive was what i was talking about

I think its for Bish to decide, he'll be on here later. I think for the sake of maybe around Ł100 and the peace of mind it'll offer him he'll go for it.
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Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
When I looked into track insurance it wasn't worth a toss, only if you killed someone, or killed yourself. To be honest, if I kill myself I have nothing to worry about......

Very few will cover damage to the car. This is why I will only do a track day where there are no barriers.
This company covers you for body damage (not your own)

But like it does say "Market Value", not good lol

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This, together with your Application, Trackday Insurance Details and any formal amendments, sets out the terms of your policy. You should check all details of your insurance and satisfy yourself that it is entirely in accordance with your understanding and instructions. Anything at variance with this understanding and instruction should be advised to us immediately quoting your unique reference number (e.g. TD123) from the MORIS website. We do not issue any further policy documentation beyond your Trackday Insurance Details.

Please note: Trackday insurance is a limited cover and does not follow all of the conditions of normal motor insurance.



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What your Policy covers:
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• Fire damage but only if directly following an accident (i.e. impact).

• The costs of repairing the car or, if insurers decide, pay you or the legal owner (should the car be subject to hire purchase or lease) an amount in full settlement. Any amount paid cannot be more than the car's market value at the time of the accident and all claims are subject to an excess/deductible as shown on the Trackday Insurance details. Where the car is insured for the full market value, in the event the claim is settled as a total loss the insurers have the right to decide to keep the salvage. Insurers can choose either of these alternatives.



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• Consumable items such as tyres, oils, linings etc

• Extra costs involved in repairing specialised paintwork and logos unless specifically agreed.

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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
This is why I will only do a track day where there are no barriers.
What track is that then

I wouldnt bother either tbh, just keep your wits about ya and dont get too cocky and you will be fine.
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When in december Billy?

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bedford has barriers...................ask Dave

Although that is the only one
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
Originally Posted by Benn 304R
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
This is why I will only do a track day where there are no barriers.
What track is that then

I wouldnt bother either tbh, just keep your wits about ya and dont get too cocky and you will be fine.
BEDFORD!!



When in december Billy?

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Here ya go fella:

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=149139

Friday 2nd December.
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hmmm tempting!

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Do IT!!!
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gotta get the time off work 1st

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Dont worry bout insurance mate, just go and hav fun
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i dont bother, excess alone makes it pointless
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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
bedford has barriers...................ask Dave

Although that is the only one
and the track layout of that corner (and couple of others) has changed to make it a bit safer so you dont hit that barrier
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B.A.R

You can be sure of that
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by Benn 304R
bedford has barriers...................ask Dave

Although that is the only one
and the track layout of that corner (and couple of others) has changed to make it a bit safer so you dont hit that barrier

Yeah Dave's corner has been changed!

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brands is an ok circuit and you wont come to much greif there, but once you been an done another track, brands seems too feel too small and too tame
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I wanna walk before i can run.

Thought that the novice day was a good place to start
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erm brands is FAR more challenging than most tracks! Brands is a SUPERB track!

How many tracks have you done andy ?
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
B.A.R

You can be sure of that
defo mate, you two will be havin fun when you catch me
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But on a serious note, take it easy and you be fine
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Originally Posted by B.A.R
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
B.A.R

You can be sure of that
defo mate, you two will be havin fun when you catch me
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
erm brands is FAR more challenging than most tracks! Brands is a SUPERB track!

How many tracks have you done andy ?
Alex I have done Bedford, Donnington and Brands so far, and I found Brands to be too small, and too boring compaired to the other 2!
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but padock hill bend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!




Alex


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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Originally Posted by B.A.R
Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
B.A.R

You can be sure of that
defo mate, you two will be havin fun when you catch me
There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,There he goes again,
Lol pulling your plonker mate, just go and hav a good time.

Anyone done a track day at brunters? thats quit a big circut.
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yeah it is big...

I didn't find it very challenging, fun but only in the way you could 4 wheel drift going over 100mph.

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Originally Posted by J871yhk
but padock hill bend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!




Alex


put your bolloxs in your throat dont it mate.
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appologies to those who haven't been there....

along the st8 hitting over 100 or there abouts, slight brake and drive to the right aiming for an invisible apex on an off camber bend

soon as you on the apex you MUST hammer the throttle or drift into the kitty litter, at the bottom of the hill you get loads of G force and can change gear while still turning !!

I personly love brands, in case you couldnt guess!
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Originally Posted by J871yhk
appologies to those who haven't been there....

along the st8 hitting over 100 or there abouts, slight brake and drive to the right aiming for an invisible apex on an off camber bend

soon as you on the apex you MUST hammer the throttle or drift into the kitty litter, at the bottom of the hill you get loads of G force and can change gear while still turning !!

I personly love brands, in case you couldnt guess!
WTF

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Originally Posted by J871yhk
but padock hill bend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!




Alex


Yeah its an interesting corner. The 1st time you go round it and start down the hill your like how steep, then you hit the bottom of the hill and the G force pushes your spine into the bottom of your seat hard and your like then you roar upto the hairpin and brake late and your like

But after 20 laps i found i got bored of this circuit maybe i should have taken the RST

pic from paddock hill



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