RichardPON

Okay, so it runs slicks on the front, and not a lot on the rear, but I still think it shows some pretty good car control!

http://ae86levin.free.fr/cv4.wmv

Westy

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good effort

AndyH_ZS

Quality

Fudgey

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thats pretty cool, but aint it just driving with the handbrake on lol

keithG666

ahh...get some bread trays under the rear wheels and leave handbrake on......would soon put a stop to the 'handbrake on, handbrake off' mallarky!!!!

FWD drifting though....theres hope for me yet!!

Stavros

FWD drifting is the gayest thing ever, its not really drifting, its just ass dragging with the handbrake on, but...

It looks ok.

In a gay as fuck way

AndyRST

Its just "tail dragging" whats the point? thats not drifting

RichardPON

I think it's some good car control - look at the control of the steering wheel.

There's no driving on the throttle, which is infinitely more easy.

Ask Mike - we both went round the Ring in a guy who drifted a FWD mini, and it was seriously impressive!

Stavros

Or so people like to think.

No bloody way is that harder, his wheels are locked all the time, its not as if hes causing the car to oversteer with freely spinning wheels is it.

Now THIS is pure skill-
www.urbanracing.net/jvs/ueo_style-1.wmv

And fuck all power either, 170 or so, and none of this rear wheels locked gayness

RichardPON

Yeah, I've got that vid.

I just can still appreciate how much better that is - FWD oversteer, whether it be handbrake or weight transfer induced is seriously difficult to control because of the lack of push factor.

Stavros

weight transfer is hard, not convinced with just on the handbrake tho.

handbrake in any drfting spoils it IMO, unfortunatley tooo many people rely on it these days.

makes initiating the drift far easier, but if they using the handbrake at all long enough for a spectator to even notice a locked rear wheel, the drift is ruined IMO, some people use the handbrake for half the bloody drift, which is poo.

im not gonna fit one until i get good (if i ever get good ) so i dont rely on it, purely use it for a fraction of a sec to help the initiation

RichardPON

Watching the English D1 guys at GT Battle, there was an awful lot of corner entry sideways on the handbrake - didn't think that was real drifting - more like skidding, and then power oversteering out the corner!

Fudgey

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even that D1 car at donno for trax was using his handbrake, he locked the rear wheels going past pits pretty much every lap.

still fukkin awsome to watch tho

MWF

LOL have to admit it looks as gay as someone in a Saxo with serving trays under the back wheels BUT probably no where near as easy as it actually looks so big respect to the guy.

Full agree with the handbrake comments, shouldn't be used noticably on a competative level.

Stavros

Fudge/Rich- Yes exactly, the UK lot use it WAY too much, but when the Jap D1 lot came to UK there was no noticable handbrake use.

You lose points for noticable use of it, hence why they didnt do too good against the Japs.

Barring McNamara, whos a legend