Stavros

On RS turbos, is there a gasket between the turbo and the turbo elbow?

And do you need one?

Its same on my S13 and id prefer not to run one as its one less thing to blow.

Ignore posts below as they not related as ive changed the question!

Stu @ M Developments

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Generally speaking, yes you can.
As for the pipes, always link them together so as not to affect the OEM flow.

CraigN

i use a gasket inbetween my manifold and bo as my turbo came with one.

i just run the water feed back to my header tank bypassing the turbo on mine

Stavros

Right, its on my 200SX, as the turbo-manifold join has a metal gasket and it blew in half, so dont want to fit one if i dont bloody need to.

Also the turbo exhaust housing has a similar end to it like a RS Turbo with an elbow section before the downpipe- can i run that with no gasket too?
It has a metal one again, but if i dont have to id rather not fit it (i removed the elbow for inspection) as its one less gasket to blow next time!

Cheers for the water flow info too

essexrsturbo

was just going to write this, all the turbos ive used and seen with these have split and started blowing, always use mine without from now on.

Stavros

Cool, not using it then.

What about like on RSTs, the join between turbo and the turbo elbow? Gasket there or metal to metal?

Stavros

Anyone?

Versus_Creations

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If you are talking about the downpipe elbow on an RST they do have a gasket from factory.

turbo7

never use the gaskets on mine as its one more bloody thing to go wrong,,as long as both faces are clean and in good condition it should seal ok,,

Stavros

jano- yes, but do you need one there?

according to turbo7, no it seems.

that right?

Christian and Beccy

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Steve, I think you will find that the surfaces aren't perfect enough not to run a Gasket. I'm pretty sure it will blow.

If you fit a new Genuine Nissan Gasket and make sure that all the studs/nuts are there and check their tightness from time-to-time, then the gasket should last fine.

Its only when the studs break or work loose than the Gasket is at risk of blowing.

turbo7

i suppose everyone has there own methods,,mine never blew and i didnt have a gasket for 3 yrs and i ragged the cock off it, my mating surfaces were in good nick and i rubbed them flat with some wet and dry paper

Stavros

I was thinking same as turbo7, giving them a good going over with some wet and dry, a smear of exhaust paste, some locking gunk on the nuts, all done up tight, and should be ok.

The elbow cant be removed without removing the turbo, and turbo cant be removed without removing the manifold, so you can see why im reluctant to fit a gasket again

The elbow gasket id rather not re-fit


The manifold to turbo gasket i just removed which was the catalist for this thread

CraigN

shit the one thats broke is what im running

essexrsturbo

thats exactly how my mates was, i would leave it without a gasket, even if the surfaces aint perfect, when the turbo becomes heated the metel expands anyway a creates a seal... none of my turbos have ever had em

Christian and Beccy

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We ALWAYS run these with Gaskets.

It's an integral part of 200SX ownership to be honest, that the Turbo Gaskets will go from time-to-time.

We normally replace the whole set at once, which involves removing the Turbo. Once everything is on correctly and tight, then they don't normally cause a problem.

I can't help thinking it will blow, but thats your call.

Stavros

Do you run water cooling to the turbos chris?

As i hacksawed them pipes off too

So maybe to continue the tradition i wont run gaskets either

Then again people say that welded diffs and cheapo rear tyres are deathtraps too and i run them

But they right

Christian and Beccy

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Jeeeeez Steve, you need to Brainwash yourself from all the bad Ford habits from the past.



"The Eyes, the Eyes, look inside the Eyes, not around the Eyes, You're under........."

USE GENUINE NISSAN TURBO GASKETS
KEEP THE WATER COOLING

"You're back in room"

Stavros

So running 1.5bar with 444cc inj's but a standard turbo is a bad idea too then is it?

Christian and Beccy

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On a Standard Intercooler??

Stavros

No But it will be whatever cooler i can pay the least for, anything from a 4x4 cossie one upwards

Ive not done the 1.5bar thing yet, tho have the inj's off my GTR i can use.

On standard T25 as.. (A)- I dont want to spend any money. And (B) outright power dont matter really, just want no lag and a big a big dollop of midrange wheelspinny torque.

Maybe i shall remove the pipe to the actuator

Christian and Beccy

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I have an idea, get some of these.......



Then turn your Boost up to 30psi and 'It should be fine'.

For a few seconds

Good luck!!

Stavros

From what I understand the T25 is that poo it has trouble holding more than a bar above 5500rpm anyhow so it wont matter

Just want that spike

Versus_Creations

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IMO this type gasket should be used.

Its up to you if you want to use the gasket between the manifold and exhaust housing. I have seen a few blow but this is normaly due to exhaust movement or engine rock etc..

Regards
Jano

Stavros

So Jano, you saying that one above IS important, but the manifold to tubo one not so?

I cant decide

Versus_Creations

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Yes basicaly mate.

I use the manifold to housing gasket on most of the Turbo's i build but both items are cleaned and blasted to make sure i have no trouble in the close future as eventualy every gasket or seal of some kind will fail due to wear and fatigue etc..

On most new Turbo's i supply i always include the gasket, its then upto the owner/customer to choose if they wish to use it.

50 / 50 call i spose, but why make a gasket if it dont work?

Regards

rs_daz

i int got no gasket on mine on the elbo, runs fine

Wazzzer

no gasket on either join on mine, never had a problem...