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Old 22-10-2005 | 04:03 PM
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it is what it does on the road that counts
but its good for the my knobs bigger than yours disussions down the pub
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:03 PM
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Daves laundry bill has increased dramatically since the purchase
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:04 PM
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it doesn't matter about bollox power figures, the only thing that matters is does it excite you when you drive it........if so, then just enjoy it
although i would be changing that ' special draw, not for public use ' chip
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:05 PM
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absolutely it's the way it drives, but how do we get an accurate-ish figure when every rolling road seems to be different???

obviously having a run is for our own amusement, but surely that can't be right??

i'll probably be taking mine here
http://www.chiptuninguk.com/chiptuning/frames.asp

and if these figures are anything to go buy i'll be lucky to get 300

i reckon even Karl would be surprised at that
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
i reckon even Karl would be surprised at that
He was

I agree with what you said earlier, It SHOULD be more than that
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:06 PM
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i agree, and it was one of the quickest cars there, in the company of skylines & evos etc
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Originally Posted by Niall.b
and it was one of the quickest cars there, in the company of skylines & evos etc
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:07 PM
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sounds like the figures ava would qoute for simalar spec
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I DEMAND A RET-TEST

AVA really qoute 320 for a car live mapped on grey's and spiking at 29psi?

i'm sure i've seen a car on here set up by AVA qouting 353 on greens , normal stg3 setup.


all this doesn't matter in the slightest cos the car sounds like a beast
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
I DEMAND A RET-TEST

AVA really qoute 320 for a car live mapped on grey's and spiking at 29psi?

i'm sure i've seen a car on here set up by AVA qouting 353 on greens , normal stg3 setup.


all this doesn't matter in the slightest cos the car sounds like a beast
yes, but you don't know the rest of the spec........personally 320 sounds good to me (a real 320 that is) the amount of people i have listened to that have an alledged 330 bhp on greens and then get all upset when there car makes 280-290 on the rollers ! so i would be happy with that spec making that
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:17 PM
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Neil what did yours make with greys and a bit of porting etc?


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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
I never did get round to having it rolling roaded cos i'm a lazy c' unt

STANDARD engine, Head and block.
WRC Head gasket
RS 500 Cooler
Greys
T34 .63
Mongoose
Live mapped
Spikes 28psi and holds anbout 26-27psi

I would be happy to see 360bhp

RYAN
Text me and let me know

BUT

At the end of the day it is how it drives on the road which counts
that's the spec. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all, just seems nowadays with so many cosworths being setup you tend to hear what figures will be , from the tuners themselves, i.e. standard engine cossie with t3 and 4x4 cooler usually around 320bhp

with t34 rs500 sized cooler 340+ bhp dependant on boost of course

be nice to have some tuner input to tell me i'm wrong and a spaz
Old 22-10-2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by S2martin
Neil what did yours make with greys and a bit of porting etc?


Martin
374.9 @a held 28psi and 355ibft torque


bud weis

i meant the spec of the 350 on greens car that you said AVA were quoting

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thought you may have, pretty sure it was normal stg3 with t34
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out of interest what did it make when standard at nobles tiff?

remember it looking mint but forget the power it made!
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
be nice to have some tuner input to tell me i'm wrong and a spaz
Well they haven't yet, so your wrong and your a spaz!

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P.s 320bhp isn't a bad figure at all, and the times Tiff did in it were more than respectable for that power!
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and the times Tiff did in it were more than respectable for that power!
My times that are in Performance Ford are from when it was Stage 1
Old 22-10-2005 | 05:28 PM
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Now guys....from the horses ass....sorry I mean mouth.

It's my car,and yes 'm a little disappointed with the figures

But as the TIFFMEISTER says, it's how it drives on the road,and it's a beast.
I had a nice dual carraigeway/motorway drive to the RRs and a nice one home ............ It was moving...

It got the top award for the most over standard BHP.

For a 20 yr old car It's the biz, and fast enough for an old fart like me.who probably couldn't handle 350BHP sideways
Old 22-10-2005 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
I DEMAND A RET-TEST

AVA really qoute 320 for a car live mapped on grey's and spiking at 29psi?

i'm sure i've seen a car on here set up by AVA qouting 353 on greens , normal stg3 setup.


all this doesn't matter in the slightest cos the car sounds like a beast
my car made 290 ATW at AVA running 20 psi 500 cooler, t34 and greens.
off the shelf chip....

maybe karls live maps arent that good after all??
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Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by bud-weis
be nice to have some tuner input to tell me i'm wrong and a spaz
Well they haven't yet, so your wrong and your a spaz!


thankyou

Karl's mapping no good???? worms.......can...
Old 22-10-2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Daviet
sounds like the figures ava would qoute for simalar spec
nah they would probs est about 350
Old 22-10-2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by bud-weis
be nice to have some tuner input to tell me i'm wrong and a spaz
Well they haven't yet, so your wrong and your a spaz!


thankyou


Old 22-10-2005 | 05:40 PM
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Im surprised at the actual power figure but the Stg1 times speak for them selves so I would say its a genuinely quick car regardless of the BHP power figures, which kind of shits on big horse power claims depending on how this R.road compares to others around the country.

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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
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and the times Tiff did in it were more than respectable for that power!
My times that are in Performance Ford are from when it was Stage 1


You mean 'Stage 1' ?
Old 22-10-2005 | 05:42 PM
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Went to a RR with a mate's MR2 Turbo, made 130bhp

There's RRs and RRs I guess.
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but to get 316 out of a stage1 is more respectable
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sure theres more to it, but on a serious note if karls mapping was shite then hes been doing well to blag the companys hes freelancing too


so i really dont think karl is responsable here

but 320 is ermmmmmmmmm different
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i wasnt expecting 320 thought it was gonna deffo be over 350
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320 bhp there must be something wrong with it.
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Originally Posted by cossiecrew
i wasnt expecting 320 thought it was gonna deffo be over 350
That was my guess to after driving it for a few years

Put it this way, on the road a 400BHP Escort couldnt catch it
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
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i wasnt expecting 320 thought it was gonna deffo be over 350
That was my guess to after driving it for a few years

Put it this way, on the road a 400BHP Escort couldnt catch it
dont get me wrong matey im not doubting for 1 second its not a quick car karl certanily knows his stuff ive abused beaches saph and was well impressed i just thought it would of been more
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So did i

And on Paper it should be
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who gives a fook about the bhp anyway
been on far to many,cant be arsed with them any more
mine i just say is 300
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Agree pops
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pops as much as i agree with that, if you spent all that cash wrc head gaslet, greys and fitting kit, 500 cooler ect and got 320 quid for it how would you feel ?

think thats more the part in question,,,,,,,, and also the reason why ill never run my car on a rollers, then i can claim its 500bhp
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if you spent all that cash wrc head gaslet, greys and fitting kit, 500 cooler ect and got 320 quid for it
im sure youll find he got 8 grand for it
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie

my car made 290 ATW at AVA running 20 psi 500 cooler, t34 and greens.
off the shelf chip....

maybe karls live maps arent that good after all??
yeah and if $hit could fly your mouth would be gatwick

thats about 380bhp at the flywheel.......on greens and 20psi
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Originally Posted by RSCAT
if you spent all that cash wrc head gaslet, greys and fitting kit, 500 cooler ect and got 320 quid for it
im sure youll find he got 8 grand for it
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Guys,
I told the RR operator to keep the revs to 6000,as it was my first RR and I didn't want anything to go pop.(No offence Mark & Karl).

The powerline on the graph was rising all the time and lookin at it,if we continued to 7000rpm it woulda been htting 340/350.

The main thing is..........it's my car, and I'm happy with it. Had it a few months, been to 2 shows, one for show and one for go and it's won prizes at each.

If I take it to another RR,we will go further,so we shall see then.

And it's goodnight from me.

Probably do with a good blow out,seeing as though an old fart like me is drivin it.


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