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Old 18-10-2005 | 08:20 PM
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Old 18-10-2005 | 08:24 PM
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Old 18-10-2005 | 08:28 PM
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wait for the 8 turbo conversion on the veyron
Old 18-10-2005 | 08:32 PM
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What has the Veyron acheieved apart from a pointless top speed and a little more top end grunt?

The Mac F1 is 13 years old, and after all that time you would think the Veyron would have been safer, more usable, more spacious, better built and even lighter - but there is nothing to prove that this is the case.
Old 18-10-2005 | 08:38 PM
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Old 18-10-2005 | 08:48 PM
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What has the Veyron acheieved apart from a pointless top speed and a little more top end grunt?

The Mac F1 is 13 years old, and after all that time you would think the Veyron would have been safer, more usable, more spacious, better built and even lighter - but there is nothing to prove that this is the case.
Its the fastest acclerating & Fastest Topspeed from a production car also 1000bhp helps, dont think it needs to achieve anything else mate. If you want space & comfort buy a Lexus or a Roller. These cars will sell cos they are investments & most will never be used in anger. Wont see one at totb or a Daddy Thrash thats for sure, will spend there lives in a heated garage somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Anh
What has the Veyron acheieved apart from a pointless top speed and a little more top end grunt?

The Mac F1 is 13 years old, and after all that time you would think the Veyron would have been safer, more usable, more spacious, better built and even lighter - but there is nothing to prove that this is the case.

Agree with what ppl are saying, u cant really compare the F1 to others as its old compared 2 newer cars but still holds its own.

Chances are the Veyron is gonna be more spacious, and possibly better built. But cant see it being much lighter, and the F1 isnt really a stupid size compared 2 some supercars out there!!!

and whoever said about wanting the F1 GTR, good man

We got a GTR at work, as well as a lemans F1 and a standard road 1

Still a beautiful car, shame only so many were made due to politics
Old 18-10-2005 | 08:50 PM
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i should hope the veyron does beat the macca with 1000 gee gees
Old 18-10-2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Anh
The Mac F1 is 13 years old, and after all that time you would think the Veyron would have been safer,
Yes it is, has to meet the same safty regulations as any other car being made atm (Not to mention the same emission laws too )

Originally Posted by Anh
more usable, more spacious
According to the reviews I have read, compaired to the macca it is! Ok so you have one less seat but you still have enough room to put a briefcase in. The Macca is desigend to be an uncompromising sports car (like the Enzo and that) so its carbon fiber all over the place a gear leaver, a few controls and thats it!



But look at the Bugattis interior its got everything you want! A far cry from the macca's harsh carbon fiber interior.



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="Anh"]better built and even lighter
Well better built has yet to be proven I will admit. But lighter than the Macca? I dont think they ever designed this car to be lighter as they stuck all the mod cons in it.
Old 18-10-2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMac
Jesus it looks like a 50's Chevy Bel Air concept car interior.
Hideous and OTT
Old 18-10-2005 | 09:16 PM
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Old 18-10-2005 | 09:22 PM
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All I'm going to say after seeing the interior is that it has 2 pedals not 3.

Drivers car? I think not. Infact some people say that about the Enzo and other paddle shift cars - it doesnt ask enough of you. The driver input is what makes you feel like YOU'RE making a difference not jsut sitting back and letting your wallet do the work as it were.
Old 19-10-2005 | 04:21 AM
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I also like this one it belongs to my friends neighbor





And here's an article about it and the company that built it.
http://www.fast-autos.net/featurecar...t10/index.html
Old 19-10-2005 | 07:50 AM
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So a supercar is all about top speed and acceleration is it?

I give up...
Old 19-10-2005 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Keith B
All I'm going to say after seeing the interior is that it has 2 pedals not 3.

Drivers car? I think not. Infact some people say that about the Enzo and other paddle shift cars - it doesnt ask enough of you. The driver input is what makes you feel like YOU'RE making a difference not jsut sitting back and letting your wallet do the work as it were.
i see 3 pedals, unless the third one is the footrest?
Old 19-10-2005 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Anh
So a supercar is all about top speed and acceleration is it?

I give up...
Yes it is.... or they would just call them family cars
Old 19-10-2005 | 09:24 AM
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...Porkie but then Keiths car didnt cost 825k to build
Ha ha

it did not cost that but sometimes it feels like it did

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Old 19-10-2005 | 12:53 PM
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According to the reviews I have read, compaired to the macca it is! Ok so you have one less seat but you still have enough room to put a briefcase in. The Macca is desigend to be an uncompromising sports car (like the Enzo and that) so its carbon fiber all over the place a gear leaver, a few controls and thats it!
the f1 wasnt a compromise,, it was the car that was ment to do everything, thats why they came with luggage and a golf bag they have EVERYTHING you need in a car,, and since the options list has never cllosed you can still have any thing you want fitted (mp3 players, dvd player, change of leather/change of colour )
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
the f1 wasnt a compromise,, it was the car that was ment to do everything, thats why they came with luggage and a golf bag they have EVERYTHING you need in a car,, and since the options list has never cllosed you can still have any thing you want fitted (mp3 players, dvd player, change of leather/change of colour )
Ahhh ok then I stand corrected Just the ol macca looks very harsh to me compaired to the Bugatti

But I didn't think they did MP3 players ten years ago
Old 19-10-2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMac
Originally Posted by GARETH T
the f1 wasnt a compromise,, it was the car that was ment to do everything, thats why they came with luggage and a golf bag they have EVERYTHING you need in a car,, and since the options list has never cllosed you can still have any thing you want fitted (mp3 players, dvd player, change of leather/change of colour )
Ahhh ok then I stand corrected Just the ol macca looks very harsh to me compaired to the Bugatti

But I didn't think they did MP3 players ten years ago
they didnt thats why Garath said the options list hasn't closed..........

open your eyes when you read damn it
Old 19-10-2005 | 01:40 PM
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who is keith and what car does he drive? your saying keiths car is quicker than the bug??

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Old 19-10-2005 | 01:45 PM
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keith cowie

he's got the quickest road legal 1/4 in the country (europe too IIRC)
r32 Skylard preped by RB motorsport I think
Old 19-10-2005 | 01:56 PM
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what does his 1/4m in?
Old 19-10-2005 | 02:02 PM
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well it did a 9.3s @ 160mph for TOTB 4 cant remember if its gone quicker or not
Old 19-10-2005 | 02:11 PM
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fuck thats fast, so what they rekon the veyron does it in? whats does the macca do it in??

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Old 19-10-2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
fuck thats fast, so what they rekon the veyron does it in? whats does the macca do it in??

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Macca 11.3 @ 138
Even my no grip pile of rwd poo can do that. .
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Carl, if you open your fooking EYES and look up, Keith has posted!!!
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certainly aint the best looking car
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That 3rd pedal is a foot rest.
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http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1129629903 small vid of bugati
Old 19-10-2005 | 05:01 PM
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Anh, What the hell are you blithering on about? A 'super-car' is just a phrase used to define an expensive and comparatively rare car. It is commonly used to generalise cars that are both fast and expensive.

The Veyron is not about 'being' anything, it is what it is and that is no doubt exactly what it's designers meant it to be. The top speed is a bi-product of having 1000bhp and an aerodynamic shape. It clearly doesn't achieve this speed by the use of long gearing at the expense of acceleration from figures quoted earlier in the post, that's for sure!

You seem to think that just because it has a high top speed it won't handle well and it wont be driveable. From what I have read you would be quite wrong!

The only 'un-supercarish' feature of the Veyron is that it should be reliable After undergoing the same testing process as any other VW model has to (winter, desert, mileage etc etc)
Old 19-10-2005 | 05:38 PM
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The macca will still be more intoxicating though,N/A and 1100kg.What is the point of the Bugatti.

For me the F50 is the ultimate supercar,you dont need to go any faster than that,
Actually id just stick with the F430 and buy a nice villa aswell
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Please refrain from calling these cars supercars as my 348 is classed as one...they are classed as exotica!
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
who is keith and what car does he drive? your saying keiths car is quicker than the bug??

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Old 20-10-2005 | 07:59 AM
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haha cheers keith LOL
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Please refrain from calling these cars supercars as my 348 is classed as one...they are classed as exotica!
Yeah .................. in the same way that you and this year's Nobel Peace Prize winner are both human beings
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800k u would have to be very rish to own one
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In terms of handling - my cash is on the 1150kg Macca over the 2000kg VW. You might need to be a bit more skilled to get the best from the Macca but isnt that the fun of owning a car, building your skills to the point where you can extract that little extra and learning the car. These point and go cars that do everything so easily a learner driver could do it dont ask anything of you but give you a thrill. I'd prefer the satisfaction of my own perfectly timed gear shift rather than some computer doing it. And I want to push my own limits without some nannying electronic safety net being there to catch the tiniest bit of a miscalculation.

Old school can sometimes be better.
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Keith B, they are different cars aimed at different markets. McLaren SLR is the only kind of competitor to the Bugatti I can think of. Luxury supercar/super GT

McLaren is a usable car with good luggage space etc BUT its very much a proper drivers car (no ABS, no PAS etc etc ) and the closet modern car to that is probably the Carrera GT.
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I agree Porkie, but what I'm getting at is shouldnt a car that can achieve that kind of speed be difficult to drive? Do you really want to make it easy to get to over 200mph? Average or below average drivers should be effectively discouraged from wanting to drive that fast shouldnt they?

Personally I think the car is jsut a marketing special to revitalise VW's investment in buying the Bugatti name and to sell future generations of more lowly Bugatti's.


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