Stu's lambda Mapping - questions NOT AN ARGUMENT or MY post
01-07-2004, 05:26 PM
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Dingy...dont let them get you down......Stu did put this post up to try make you look stupid...he is a king for that..humiliation...its funny as off the net he is a nice bloke 
....He must have serious issues 
Everyone is getting wayyyy to personnal/and aggressive now a days chill..its only a fooking car engine...any of you lot heard of sex with women?...rofl 
....He must have serious issues Everyone is getting wayyyy to personnal/and aggressive now a days
chill..its only a fooking car engine...any of you lot heard of sex with women?...rofl
01-07-2004, 05:28 PM
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what a cool post - i love to see dingly having a go !!!
god loves a tryer m8 !!
BUT - dont dis the master of quotes !!! you WONT win!!!
the point ive sort of got from this post is , that stu has simply refined a characteristic of the stock ecm to enable a better driving car - simple as
he has utilised the H02s to make the car much more usable because he can , and at the stoichiometric value engine combustion is at its best so that means for your fookin Ł4.00 per gallon - youve actually used it all in your quest to cruise down the highway - instead of smooking it down the fookin exhaust !!!
god loves a tryer m8 !!
BUT - dont dis the master of quotes !!! you WONT win!!!
the point ive sort of got from this post is , that stu has simply refined a characteristic of the stock ecm to enable a better driving car - simple as
he has utilised the H02s to make the car much more usable because he can , and at the stoichiometric value engine combustion is at its best so that means for your fookin Ł4.00 per gallon - youve actually used it all in your quest to cruise down the highway - instead of smooking it down the fookin exhaust !!!
01-07-2004, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by richm
IMO, the main issue that is being 'missed' by some here, is the fact that lambda=1 closed loop control is only being used at light throttle, light load operating conditions, to enable the closed-loop lambda control mechanism in the ECU to overcome the lack of injector duration resolution at light loads creating unneccesarily rich or erratic fuelling - this gives the opportunity to get good fuel economy and emmissions FOR FREE, with no downside. Once load or rpm rises it releases the closed loop control and reverts to open-loop base mapping at a suitably rich setting for the conditions.
You can run at lambda=1 or indeed quite a chunk leaner at light loads all day long, without any fear of creating any overheating... it's got absolutely nothing to do with the melting potential of a high-output engine under boost conditions, or the benefits of adding some fuel under those high load conditions to cool things down a bit, which everyone agrees on...
You can run at lambda=1 or indeed quite a chunk leaner at light loads all day long, without any fear of creating any overheating... it's got absolutely nothing to do with the melting potential of a high-output engine under boost conditions, or the benefits of adding some fuel under those high load conditions to cool things down a bit, which everyone agrees on...
01-07-2004, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
I am a cock mate 
Did i say there was any thing up with your engine
Ranj fuck off
sunny fuck off
Madettes to the THREAD
Fucking internet kings everywhere never questioning fuck all.........spinless....
RANJ - CLUELESS - PMSL - GRP 4 ESCORT MATE worth same as a FRST
Did i say there was any thing up with your engine
Ranj fuck off
sunny fuck off
Madettes to the THREAD
Fucking internet kings everywhere never questioning fuck all.........spinless....
RANJ - CLUELESS - PMSL - GRP 4 ESCORT MATE worth same as a FRST
thanks
dingy u got made to look like a cunt and u cant thandle it
01-07-2004, 06:05 PM
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2nd season of rag week in the kia gardens showing on a bbs near you
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
01-07-2004, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
2nd season of rag week in the kia gardens showing on a bbs near you
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
or ur 3dr
01-07-2004, 06:13 PM
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Dingy... Ranj... Sunny... In fact.. all the M.A.D Vs N.M.S team:
(You know who's whos so no arguments)
Why not take this oportunity to call it a day, cos i decided last night when i had a couple of hours to scan PF that i donty like what im seeing between you few members.... and i started deleting it and splitting some posts (This one included)
I dont care who started it and whos just retaliating... lets just call it a day, we all have our own tuners and were all happy with our own services, so why spend so much time slagging others off?
This post is perfect proof of it and thats one of the reasons i split it. Argue all you like, until your blue if you wish, but EVERYONE here can see that you tried to put my new lambda software down and failed in teh face of hard facts Steve, now i dont know why you chose to do this and to be honest, i couldnt give a fook, but its time it stopped, theres no room on PF for any more inter tuner wars.... so grow up or fook off.... simple.
Final word:
Do you see us tuners slagging each other off? No? So why should our customers?
(You know who's whos so no arguments)
Why not take this oportunity to call it a day, cos i decided last night when i had a couple of hours to scan PF that i donty like what im seeing between you few members.... and i started deleting it and splitting some posts (This one included)
I dont care who started it and whos just retaliating... lets just call it a day, we all have our own tuners and were all happy with our own services, so why spend so much time slagging others off?
This post is perfect proof of it and thats one of the reasons i split it. Argue all you like, until your blue if you wish, but EVERYONE here can see that you tried to put my new lambda software down and failed in teh face of hard facts Steve, now i dont know why you chose to do this and to be honest, i couldnt give a fook, but its time it stopped, theres no room on PF for any more inter tuner wars.... so grow up or fook off.... simple.
Final word:
Do you see us tuners slagging each other off? No? So why should our customers?
01-07-2004, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
find the thread where i said those exact words
Originally Posted by dingy
Originally Posted by RANJ
Originally Posted by dingy
Originally Posted by RANJ
Originally Posted by dingy
60k on a porker would make it better than a 60k festa
Whats the festa worth with no engine and box - 500quid maybe, if you could sell it.
Whats the festa worth with no engine and box - 500quid maybe, if you could sell it.
unless u was a collecter of classics
01-07-2004, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
Originally Posted by Matt
2nd season of rag week in the kia gardens showing on a bbs near you
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
regards economy in the words of dear old uncle tony......
"if you want economy then sell up and buy a fookin micra"
i miss him, he was piss funny bless him
or ur 3dr
then again 
01-07-2004, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Dingy... Ranj... Sunny... In fact.. all the M.A.D Vs N.M.S team:
(You know who's whos so no arguments)
Why not take this oportunity to call it a day, cos i decided last night when i had a couple of hours to scan PF that i donty like what im seeing between you few members.... and i started deleting it and splitting some posts (This one included)
I dont care who started it and whos just retaliating... lets just call it a day, we all have our own tuners and were all happy with our own services, so why spend so much time slagging others off?
This post is perfect proof of it and thats one of the reasons i split it. Argue all you like, until your blue if you wish, but EVERYONE here can see that you tried to put my new lambda software down and failed in teh face of hard facts Steve, now i dont know why you chose to do this and to be honest, i couldnt give a fook, but its time it stopped, theres no room on PF for any more inter tuner wars.... so grow up or fook off.... simple.
Final word:
Do you see us tuners slagging each other off? No? So why should our customers?
(You know who's whos so no arguments)
Why not take this oportunity to call it a day, cos i decided last night when i had a couple of hours to scan PF that i donty like what im seeing between you few members.... and i started deleting it and splitting some posts (This one included)
I dont care who started it and whos just retaliating... lets just call it a day, we all have our own tuners and were all happy with our own services, so why spend so much time slagging others off?
This post is perfect proof of it and thats one of the reasons i split it. Argue all you like, until your blue if you wish, but EVERYONE here can see that you tried to put my new lambda software down and failed in teh face of hard facts Steve, now i dont know why you chose to do this and to be honest, i couldnt give a fook, but its time it stopped, theres no room on PF for any more inter tuner wars.... so grow up or fook off.... simple.
Final word:
Do you see us tuners slagging each other off? No? So why should our customers?
In case you all missed it.
01-07-2004, 06:19 PM
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I have no issue's against Karl or any other tuner on here therefore from my end this is not a NMS vs MAD issue however from Dingy and Matt's end things appear to be alot diffierent, proof = I never had any issue's with either Dingy or Matt (infact got on with both of them) before I started using Mark, all of a sudden things changed and the term Maddette appeared....funny that aint it. 
I agree with Stu...well said mate.
Thanks - Sunny.
I agree with Stu...well said mate.
Thanks - Sunny.
01-07-2004, 06:21 PM
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sunny you constantly abused me and called me queer at every oppurtunity and i spoke to you @ totb last year when you were using mark so thats complete shit...
Its your constant digs which has changed my opinion of you its got FUCK all to do the MAD you sad kunt.
Its your constant digs which has changed my opinion of you its got FUCK all to do the MAD you sad kunt.
01-07-2004, 06:27 PM
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I think you need to do the maths again.....When I met you and before I used Mark there was no problem. You came on here started dissing me hence the gay remarks. Simple! Whether you admit to that or not...I don't care a fuck.
Worst thing is, even after whats been said by Stu your still comming across being abusive and acting like a kid.
I am man enough to put things behind us...so why don't you square up for once!
Sunny.
Worst thing is, even after whats been said by Stu your still comming across being abusive and acting like a kid.
I am man enough to put things behind us...so why don't you square up for once!
Sunny.
01-07-2004, 06:28 PM
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Fuck this...
I never started this, i asked a few questions, to which stu made a thread by me, which is shite to be honest, then maddettes come on and have a go..
I aint replied to anything about the original post since it was moved, as they were questions that there are some interesting answers but certain people are always out to make me look a twat so whats the fuckin point....
As I STARTED this thread, please can the mods delete the fucker...
Be so glad as of monday when i aint got any net access....
I never started this, i asked a few questions, to which stu made a thread by me, which is shite to be honest, then maddettes come on and have a go..
I aint replied to anything about the original post since it was moved, as they were questions that there are some interesting answers but certain people are always out to make me look a twat so whats the fuckin point....
As I STARTED this thread, please can the mods delete the fucker...
Be so glad as of monday when i aint got any net access....
01-07-2004, 06:30 PM
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Anyone whos suggest's there is no M.A.D Vs N.M.S should perhaps read this link
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59267
Cos the rest of the world sure seems to think there is... the only people who dont, as ive already said, is the TUNERS THEMSELVES.. we are all friends for fooks sake
No-one suggesting your speaking for them, but your sure making them look like fooking cult leaders and that aint good!
Now myself, Martin, Sean, Karl, Mark, Tony, Rob, Steve and a few other tuners are off out for a pint and a pizza.. you customers try to behave yourselves for once please 
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59267
Cos the rest of the world sure seems to think there is... the only people who dont, as ive already said, is the TUNERS THEMSELVES.. we are all friends for fooks sake
No-one suggesting your speaking for them, but your sure making them look like fooking cult leaders and that aint good!
Now myself, Martin, Sean, Karl, Mark, Tony, Rob, Steve and a few other tuners are off out for a pint and a pizza.. you customers try to behave yourselves for once please
01-07-2004, 06:38 PM
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Probably not the best time to post this but the post has really helped me understand and learn...
Thought ForeignRs and Richm posts were really good and have certainly changed my mind. Good Fuel economy has never been something I was bothered with on highly tuned cossie engines BUT if you can have it with NO downsides at all then you are a muppet not to.
To be honest Stu, when you posted in the past about closed/open loop stuff, I kinda just stopped reading/listening and thought ZZZZzzzzzz
BUT now having taken the time to read it I must say WELL DONE MATEY Awesome 
Quick question, does my ECU do all that malarky?
but the post has really helped me understand and learn...Thought ForeignRs and Richm posts were really good and have certainly changed my mind. Good Fuel economy has never been something I was bothered with on highly tuned cossie engines BUT if you can have it with NO downsides at all then you are a muppet not to.
To be honest Stu, when you posted in the past about closed/open loop stuff, I kinda just stopped reading/listening and thought ZZZZzzzzzz
BUT now having taken the time to read it I must say WELL DONE MATEY
Awesome Quick question, does my ECU do all that malarky?
01-07-2004, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
sunny you constantly abused me and called me queer at every oppurtunity and i spoke to you @ totb last year when you were using mark so thats complete shit...
Its your constant digs which has changed my opinion of you its got FUCK all to do the MAD you sad kunt.
Its your constant digs which has changed my opinion of you its got FUCK all to do the MAD you sad kunt.
getting abused and being called queer
quik ill run for mummy
ffs dingy, if u give the shit...prepare to take it
my last quote that somebody of here told me (wont mention who) and it aint a madette either
Dingy is very special
he is the only person who cant make a rs500 intercooler work
rant over
01-07-2004, 07:04 PM
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Why youd NOT want to run a lambda controlled map is beyond me. We run 740 injectors and the car runs perfectly at all throttle positions and returns a very heathly mpg whilst being able to fuel properly at full throttle and high boost.
To remove the lambda control would be, as far as Im concerned, utter foolishness as would not taking advantage of the technology if its available.
To remove the lambda control would be, as far as Im concerned, utter foolishness as would not taking advantage of the technology if its available.
01-07-2004, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Sunny i would not put anything behind you, as for making peace with you, its simply not going to happen.
Go and find someone else to argue with (you have plenty of people that hate you) and degrade another post... I simply have no time to reply to people like you on here anymore.
Sunny