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Old 11-08-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Bonnet raisers do they work?

Are they really all what there cracked up to be????

Looking at the pics I really don't like them But we put them on at the recommendation of my tuner.

Now I haven’t got a ACT gauge so can't tell if it has made a difference and my water temps seem to be the same
But if you stand at the side of the car you can really feel the heat coming out!!!!

I don't want opinions of what they look like as I myself would rather not have them on I want opinions of people who have tried and tested them and do you feel they make a lot of difference?

I am getting sick of blokes in the street shouting your bonnets not shut love I nearly had a row the other day with a bloke, he was convinced it was open I kept telling him it was supposed to be like that and he insisted it wasn't

Discuss
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ok...

I know you want opinions off of people that have tried and tested these... and I know I havent..

but for some reason they really piss me off

- They are not needed... so why fit them??

- They look shit... really shit. It looks like the bonnet is not on properly

- Water m7ust run down from the massive gap behind onto battery etc..

- The heat in traffic must affect view and go all wavey and stuff like out the bonnet vents..

Sorry, but I dont see the point of this pathetic useless shitty looking mod...

phheeeeeeeeeeeewww.. sorry about that, but I hate bonnet raisers
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This is what i didn't want As i said im not a fan of them myself and if you don't like them keep your veiws to yourself

Im asking people who have used them if they feel they make a differance! And the heat you feel coming out the sides surely its good letting that out? How can you say they are not needed!? Maybe not needed on your car! They were recomended by ahmed im sure he wouldn't tell us to put them on to make it look good
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ok then..

you've fitted them... Do they make a difference?

Ford never designed the car to make it look like its had a front ender did they?

If your cooling system is working correctly... then all should be fine. I also run the huge front mounted intercooler. Engine temps are stable and remain at 1/2 way mark.. my tuner never mentioned putting some shitty blocks on did he

I assume they are used to try and lower temps????? My more is, temps should be ok..
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Westy shut the fook up

IF YOU READ instead of jumping on your high horse, i said i haven't got a act gauge so i can not tell if it has made a differance. Hence asking for veiws of people who have used them.

Ford never designed the car to have a lot of things added we all put on did they

Where did i say i was having water temp problems And obviously you wasn't recommended the shitty blocks as you don't need them Thats not hard to work out is it Maybe you should get more power

As i said earlier im not after your sort of replys I get the message you don't like them well done Now flock of
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your not having water temp issue's... then why have you got them on??? oh yeah, ackmed said so For what reason did he say put them on

here... look they give better throttle response FPMSL From ebay

ese are designed to raise the rear of the bonnet up by apx 25mm which aids in air-flow through the engine bay, consequently lowering air charge intake temperatures (especially in the case on turbo charged cars where air charge temperatures are more reliant on intercooler efficiency). A consequence of lower intake temperatures is more power and better throttle response.
and more power

so, dont tell me to fook orf gullible flocker [/b]
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Westy your a first class prick Do they have to be for water temps What do you think all the heat under your bonnet does einstein You can't even read what you have qouted yourself about air charge temperatures

Cheers for turning my post to shit but then i expect know less off you Ive seen it all before you talk out your fucking ARSE and you know jack shit
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I know you didn't ask they look like but kinda feel I need to say i`m not a great fan of them, however in response to your question; I have never tested them personally but I have been told by so many people who do have ACT gauges that they do make a difference Sorry but it's the most accurate I can truthfully be
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Originally Posted by Westy
ok...

I know you want opinions off of people that have tried and tested these... and I know I havent..

but for some reason they really piss me off

- They are not needed... so why fit them?? They help keep engine temps down, also on ZVH engines with a FRST cross over you get contact between the bonnet and cross over pipe so the blocks eliminate that.

- They look shit... really shit. It looks like the bonnet is not on properly

- Water m7ust run down from the massive gap behind onto battery etc.. No it doesn't, if you know anything about Escorts you will know there is a lip which will prevent this, you would also know that the bonets have vents which lets loads of water in anyways, so stop moaning

- The heat in traffic must affect view and go all wavey and stuff like out the bonnet vents.. No it doesn't

Sorry, but I dont see the point of this pathetic useless shitty looking mod...

phheeeeeeeeeeeewww.. sorry about that, but I hate bonnet raisers

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its not blob week again is it Its a general discussion board lady.. I will post on anyones thread when I want to

You avoided the questions well tho

Less of the prick comment... dont see me saying shut up you fat bitch do you No need for names.. thats why.
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Originally Posted by Genesis Engineering
I know you didn't ask they look like but kinda feel I need to say i`m not a great fan of them, however in response to your question; I have never tested them personally but I have been told by so many people who do have ACT gauges that they do make a difference Sorry but it's the most accurate I can truthfully be
Thanks alot Atleast i get one decent answer Think im going to have to invest in a act gauge
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- They are not needed... so why fit them?? The help keep engine temps down


my point is... you shouldnt need to


- Water m7ust run down from the massive gap behind onto battery etc.. No it doesn't, if you know anything about Escorts you will know there is a lip which will prevent this, you would also know that the bonets have vents which lets loads of water in anyways, so stop moaning


no i know nothiung about escorts.. just had one for 6 1/2 years I dont go round looking for lips and stuff tho
Old 11-08-2005, 03:23 PM
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Have a chat with SteveRW. He had them on his old S2.
Old 11-08-2005, 03:25 PM
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Worked on my old RST track car.Its all about air flooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
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so ... why not do this then ...

open bonnet ...
locate angle grinder....
attack the lower lip of the scoop for the air blower fan in the bonnet ... same end result bonnet is shut
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Our 1.6 turbo runabout don't need them! But we are talking differant leauges if we added silly bhp to that then you have to look at other ways to bring act's temps ect

Just coz you don't need them don't mean every one else don't
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there are lot more powerful cars than yours, that also DO NOT need them, as they do nothing oh, and look absolutely shit.. may as well get a headlight scoop to... It will improve speed
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faye dont drive fast enough for them to be of any use
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Originally Posted by jasonp
Worked on my old RST track car.Its all about air flooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Thats what i think it obviously goes in the vents and blows into the engine and out the other end taking warm air with it hopefully lol Well i am definatly investing in a act gauge then i can see if its changed from when it was mapped
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at other ways to bring act's temps ect
right im wanting to learn abit here... in what way does having bonnet raisers at the back, improve ACT's??
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Personally I would of gone down the ACT guage route in the 1st place, rather then raise the rear end of the bonnet

If your tuner said "buy yourself an ACT guage from Mike Rainbird, so we can monitor your charge temps and then see if we have an issue" then

Seeing as he said "hmmmm, i don't think this front mounted intercooler is gonna do the job, let's bastardise your car so it can get rid of the heat"
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Originally Posted by Westy
there are lot more powerful cars than yours, that also DO NOT need them, as they do nothing oh, and look absolutely shit.. may as well get a headlight scoop to... It will improve speed
In your opinion being an opion of someone who has never tried them
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Dan dont say that you'll get called a prick and your name added to the title
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Originally Posted by sexy-aRSe
Originally Posted by Westy
there are lot more powerful cars than yours, that also DO NOT need them, as they do nothing oh, and look absolutely shit.. may as well get a headlight scoop to... It will improve speed
In your opinion being an opion of someone who has never tried them
wtf proven quicker times down the 1/4... proven quicker top speeds.. ie NMS RST.. C&B.. do they run bonnet raisers..

this isnt my opinion its fact
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Originally Posted by jasonp
Worked on my old RST track car.Its all about air flooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
There you go, a sensible reply from a sensible person who has actually used them

That was a great RST you had Jason, and you don't catch me saying that often!
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Originally Posted by Westy
at other ways to bring act's temps ect
right im wanting to learn abit here... in what way does having bonnet raisers at the back, improve ACT's??
Westy funnily enough air goes in the vents into the bay and back out the back

Dan act's where moniterd during mapping And then lifters suggested

God this post was only to ask veiws of people who had used bonnit liffters and how they found they worked
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Faye hook up a thermocouple in the engine area, measure the underbonnet temps both with and without the bonnet raisers.

I was in the process of doing the above earlier in the year, Id be very interested in the results especial in the height of summer.

Would also be interested to see what results come with fitting an S1 bonnet with the bonnet raisers.(Increasing airflow from the front)
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So in other words, during the mapping, it got too hot ?
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Originally Posted by Westy
Originally Posted by sexy-aRSe
Originally Posted by Westy
there are lot more powerful cars than yours, that also DO NOT need them, as they do nothing oh, and look absolutely shit.. may as well get a headlight scoop to... It will improve speed
In your opinion being an opion of someone who has never tried them
wtf proven quicker times down the 1/4... proven quicker top speeds.. ie NMS RST.. C&B.. do they run bonnet raisers..

this isnt my opinion its fact
yes but there specs and products they are using are all differnt
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Originally Posted by sexy-aRSe
Originally Posted by Westy
at other ways to bring act's temps ect
right im wanting to learn abit here... in what way does having bonnet raisers at the back, improve ACT's??
Westy funnily enough air goes in the vents into the bay and back out the back

Dan act's where moniterd during mapping And then lifters suggested

God this post was only to ask veiws of people who had used bonnit liffters and how they found they worked
I always though the vents let heat out??

So ahmed recommended you get bonnet lifters/raisers because your ACT's were seeing over 60 then during mapping?

Im not trying to be nasty or anything Faye, just genuinely interested in why you were asked to use these?
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Westy u can blame me i recon for this mod goin so "Main Stream"

But...

Mine needed it!

& did make a noticable difference!
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Originally Posted by B8
Faye hook up a thermocouple in the engine area, measure the underbonnet temps both with and without the bonnet raisers.

I was in the process of doing the above earlier in the year, Id be very interested in the results especial in the height of summer.

Would also be interested to see what results come with fitting an S1 bonnet with the bonnet raisers.(Increasing airflow from the front)
Andy come and do it for me Come on holiday down south for a weekend lol Whats a thermocouple 2 thermostates that are a couple lol
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aye.,.. i remember you doing this mod Lewis.. It didnt actually look to bad on yours for some reason.. bad boy, S1 kit, cut out etc.. suited the look

Noticeable difference to what dude? ACT's or water temps, or both?

Why needed?

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ive ran them for a year now, i personally get pissed off with people saying my bonnets open, but heat is a killer in most engines so anyway i can avoid this at low cost i will fit them

They did make a difference to my water temps and ACT's (i run a gauge), not a massive difference in ACT's but my temperture gauge rarely goes above the M on the NORM bit, before fitment they were higher around the O

Ive found also my car cools down alot quicker

hope this helps
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Faye, you keep missing the questions
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Originally Posted by sexy-aRSe
Westy funnily enough air goes in the vents into the bay
Really?

I thought it would be obvious that the vents let heat out rather than take it in?

It's a vent, not a scoop.
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Everythin looked good on my car! espically me!

Well it was done to get hot air out of the engine bay as water temps were somewhat high! only a few degrees what i wanted them to b @ but a few degrees is quite a bit!

The raised bonnet helped this enough to keep me happy!

Lower water temps help ACT temps & Oil Temp!

Oil Temp also being a big issue on the car until i fitted a oil cooler!

ACT's were never a probelm but the lower the better!
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Cos he had over 300lbs of tourqe, and wanted it so spiky couldn't actually see over the dashboard
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Originally Posted by Westy
Originally Posted by sexy-aRSe
Originally Posted by Westy
at other ways to bring act's temps ect
right im wanting to learn abit here... in what way does having bonnet raisers at the back, improve ACT's??
Westy funnily enough air goes in the vents into the bay and back out the back

Dan act's where moniterd during mapping And then lifters suggested

God this post was only to ask veiws of people who had used bonnit liffters and how they found they worked
I always though the vents let heat out??

So ahmed recommended you get bonnet lifters/raisers because your ACT's were seeing over 60 then during mapping?

Im not trying to be nasty or anything Faye, just genuinely interested in why you were asked to use these?
Comprende Trust me i hate them and if i didn't think they was going to work they would come straight off hence me posting asking views of people who have used them!!!! You jump on saying they don't there not needed bla bla This post was not about discussing my act's or problems i am having it was just to get feedback!!!!!

But thanks to some genuine replys i think i see enough reason to say hopefully they will work I just hated seeing corsa and every other shit box with them on at the pod made me want to take them of there and then
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I used to get ppl sayin bonnet was open all th time! dont they think i would notice the fact that i could see the inlet manifold from the drivers seat!

Bonnet raisers were around a longer than when i put them on my car! i stole the idea of Jase P!

But after my feature had loads of ppl askin about them & then suddenly every foooka was doin it!


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