User 32922

Ok has anyone ever raced a standard evo 6 around a track in a focus RS?

how far behind would the Focus be? What level of tune would be needed to stand a chance? Would i be totally embarassed by one if both of us were "newbies" on a track?

what if the evo was say 350hp?

Discuss

Paul

Physio

Yes you would get totally wasted!

User 32922

i'm not sure i believe that (anyway your bias )

EIL132

Dependent on driver, Evo would waste you

User 32922

bollox ...i hate you all

really? waste me? is there any possibility you could be wrong?

EIL132

Yes, if the Evo driver had one arm or couldn't drive for shit

Red16

my moneys on the evo

Physio

PMSL

User 32922

ok ok ok

so what level of tune would be needed to "stand a chance"

Paul J

Steve scotts focus

User 32922

on the top gear powerlaps thingy the Focus RS is only 3.3secs slower than an Evo 8....so surely can be attainable will a little more horses. And isnt the evo 8 quicker than the 6 anyway?

tiny

Make it RWD with 400 bhp

mrviper

add 4wd for a start and another 100hp

User 32922

just wondering really, a mate has a 350hp evo 6 but said a totally standard 6 would really embarass a Focus RS around a track. I of course disagreed.

Sure as standard the 6 is faster but i didnt believe it would totally spank the RS.

After all on the topgear powerlap thing the evo 8 (which i presume is quicker than evo 6) was only 3.3 secs quicker with a professional race driver.

I was just wondering with 2 inexperrienced "track day drivers" how it would go.

guess i need some humble pie and a can of "stop talking sh!t"

I know a 6 as standard is quicker i just didnt think i would be totally embarassed if we raced 2 standard cars on a track. oh well

rallycross

I think you'd need to take a wheel off the EVO if you wanted to get a Focus to stay in front !!

I've currently got a 330 bhp Escos and an EVO8 FQ300; the EVO is always miles in front, that's not to say its more fun though cos the Escos has more character....

EIL132

Evo 6 is awesome. Better technology, makes up for the driver

AJ Escos

the evo can be very quick even with just a reasonable river as the electronics help massively, and the ford,well its electronics are in the stereo

User 32922

well on that very depressing note i'm going to bed

Might ring mike tomorrow and see what crap he can sell me to make me think my car is fast Evo Bonnet vents maybe?

Tigran

three seconds is an absolute age on that track - tbh a FWD car with a fair amount less HP does not stand much chance against a super computer like the Evo

Cam

Saw a GGR modded (circa 300hp) with susp mods vs a STD EVO VI TME (except for filter and exhaust) at Cadwell that and the EVO was destroying the Focus. The two owners are brothers from Grantham that do rally prep. Focus was despatched to Junkyard 28 about a month later in p/x for the 22b they had.

rallycross

never driven a Focus RS but its got 2 things missing that will leave it far behind most EVO's

1) 4 wd (the most important thing)
2) lots of BHP and Torque less than most EVO's.

plynchy

Just my 2p.
2 years ago at Croft i was out-dragging Evo's down the start-finish straight in my stg 1 saff,obviously they blitzed me at the next bend and i've also been severly embaressed by a few Focus RS's round Donington etc,they do go round bends VERY well for FWD.
So to the original question,i'm not so sure.

User 32922

someone was telling me that when the Focus RS was launched, ford took it to a track day (or someone did) and it was lapping quicker than most of the Escort Cossies.....but aparently the Focus had a proper race driver in it. (not sure if thats true though)

Rs Gary

when the focus rs was on top gear they put it up against a scoobie wrx and the frs was over 3 seconds quicker round the track so dont be too sure a standard evo 6 would win
cheeRS gary
AKA shrek

NathR

Mr Clarkeson (who hates the FRS) quoted that the RS beats Evo's round their test track on one of his DVD's, so perhaps it is quicker than the old Evo's? I would like to think mine would do ok against a mid powered one (mines 280-290BHP). Before I fiitted my manifold mine pulled distance on a mates P1 from 30-155.

The FRS handles amazingly for FWD but the 4x4 + they drive themselves factor will help your mate!!

User 32922

Cheers Nath was hoping you would answer

Richie Russ

I had a blat with an Rs Focus in my old Evo 6 (350 bhp, so not totally fair) but he was left far far behind, this compromised of B roads and some straight roads, if you could beat a 350 bhp Evo round the track in a Focus, i'll eat my air filter

RichardPON

Bone dry track, stick the Focus on slicks, leave the EVO on road tryes, and it might be a bit more even

Oranoco

I know it's not the same but wasn't the Focus RS 3 seconds faster round the Top Gear track than the Subaru Impreza STi? I know Evo's are a better car than the Subaru tat but are they THAT much better? (genuine question BTW just curious)

NathR

Out of interest, from the TG site...


1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9

2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0

3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5

4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8

5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9

Ford GT - 1.21.9

Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3

Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3

Murcielago - 1.23.7

Zonda - 1.23.8

Koenigsegg - 1.23.9

Noble - 1.25.0

Gallardo - 1.25.8

Lotus Exige - 1.26.4

Chevrolet Corvette - 1.26.8

Mercedes CLS 55 AMG - 1.26.9

Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2

TVR 350C - 1.27.5

BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0

Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 1.28.5

MG SV - 1.28.6

Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)

Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9

BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0

Mercedes CL65 - 1.29

Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0

Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1

Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4

Audi S4 - 1.30.9

Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0

Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3

Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6

BMW M3 - 1.31.8

Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8

Mazda RX8 - 1.31.8

Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2

Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5

Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7

MG ZT - 1.33

Noble - 1.33.1

Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 1.33.2

Volkswagen Golf R32 - 1.33.2

Cadillac CTS-V - 1.33.3

Holden Monaro - 1.33.9

Volvo S60R - 1.35.0

Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2

Alfa 147 GTA - 1.35.6

Lotus Elise - 1.35.6

Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2

Renault Clio v6 - 1.36.2

Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5

Saab 95 hot aero - 1.37.9

Mazzer - 1.38.0

Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4

Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8

Overfinch - 1.44.0


I like showing that to my mate who own's a CTR!!

blubod

[quote="pgtips"]Ok has anyone ever raced a standard evo 6 around a track in a focus RS?

how far behind would the Focus be? What level of tune would be needed to stand a chance? Would i be totally embarassed by one if both of us were "newbies" on a track?

I had a strait line race with a evo 6 in my focus rs. my focus only had a blufin I also had a 1 other person in my car, I was getting away from him very very slowly. On a track will be diffrent so you will prob loose.

wildheart

iTrader: (4)

Having driven a FRS around track i can confirm some of you would be very suprised at how these things go around the corners,almost 4x4 like infact

Rob M666SCC

Give em a bit more power and then let em go

Red16

how come everybody who owns a CTR things theyre the fastest things this side of a F1 car???

would be good if we could get a standard FRS and EVO 6 to a track day soon to find out the outcome

NathR

Come on mate, V-TEC is awesome, really puts you back in ya seat!!

They do go well in all fairness.

Don't like the sound of standard vs standard, modded RS vs standard Evo sounds a bit more like it!!

vroooom ptssssh

Evo 6TME is even better, AJ, ive decided, i WILL swap you, it was a hard decision