Jealousy and brunters...
27-07-2005, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You just seem to like to brag about how quick your car is, without substantiating anything, which is why it always seems to smell a bit like bullshit, and if it smells like bullshit, it usually IS bullshit
. Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has? The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring
.So my car is fast but its bullshit....?
Will shut up then mike......
I am at dono on the 8th of august mate - proving the car and having fun. I for one am past caring about times and top speed which is why i never do them LOL
27-07-2005, 08:36 AM
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Dingy, is that because you are confident that there is no way your car will get to 200mph, so the only way you can prove to everyone on this board how fast your car is, is to track it.
What would you say if Rod came steaming past you @ Donno on the 8th, hanging the rear end out, waving as he went past ?
What would you say if Rod came steaming past you @ Donno on the 8th, hanging the rear end out, waving as he went past ?
27-07-2005, 08:38 AM
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I personally have no problem when you post how quick the car is round Donno etc, as you substantiate this with a time (1.50 on a good day ? ). It just annoys me personally, when anyone makes claims they are not prepared to substantiate (be it on circuit or acceleration claims) - that's just ME. So all this "arse" dyno bollocks just annoys the fuck out of me and I just wish you would put up or shut up. I know and understand your car won't do much over 160-170 at Brunters (due to it being the shape of a brick and not intended for this kind of thing), but some acceleration times with the new engine would shut me up and give an good indication of how good your power to weight / performance to weight is to make the comparison to other cars that HAVE been tested, that you seem so keen to mention .
I personally have no problem when you post how quick the car is round Donno etc, as you substantiate this with a time (1.50 on a good day
? ). It just annoys me personally, when anyone makes claims they are not prepared to substantiate (be it on circuit or acceleration claims) - that's just ME. So all this "arse" dyno bollocks just annoys the fuck out of me and I just wish you would put up or shut up. I know and understand your car won't do much over 160-170 at Brunters (due to it being the shape of a brick and not intended for this kind of thing), but some acceleration times with the new engine would shut me up and give an good indication of how good your power to weight / performance to weight is to make the comparison to other cars that HAVE been tested, that you seem so keen to mention .
27-07-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DanRSturbo
What would you say if Rod came steaming past you @ Donno on the 8th, hanging the rear end out, waving as he went past ?
As funny as that would be, it just wouldn't happen, as Dingy's car isn't built for top speeds, Rod's certainly isn't built for track. That amount of power in that car would be spectacular on the track, but not fast.
27-07-2005, 11:22 AM
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Rich, I'm not so sure. Rods car has decentish suspension and brakes. He also has good rear beam which with some decent tyres means he gets good traction and its prepared to a very high standard. I think it WOULD be fast on track. Not mentally fast but still very very good at a track like Donno. It has big torque to pull out of the corners and I think it has enough pace on the straights
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND
or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND
or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace
27-07-2005, 11:31 AM
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Lee,
Okay, but I was referring to the car with Rod driving, and I believe he is a self confessed track novice, so wouldn't really get the most out of it in that scenario.
I'd also love to see how it went on track on some slicks to get the power down -would be very interesting, and no doubt a bit lively with all that power RWD
Okay, but I was referring to the car with Rod driving, and I believe he is a self confessed track novice, so wouldn't really get the most out of it in that scenario.
I'd also love to see how it went on track on some slicks to get the power down -would be very interesting, and no doubt a bit lively with all that power RWD
27-07-2005, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You just seem to like to brag about how quick your car is, without substantiating anything, which is why it always seems to smell a bit like bullshit, and if it smells like bullshit, it usually IS bullshit . Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has?
The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring .
. Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has? The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring
.As for the track/drag/top speed thing, i personally enjoy a little of each.
I do think that a track is very tame compared to a rally circuit though, so i think if Dingy is looking for the ultimate driving experience then he wont find it at Donnington, through in some mud, poor visibility and the fact that you arent just going round and round the same bit of tarmac that you know off by heart anyway and it gets a lot more exciting, trackdays are ok, just not as good as rallying IMHO
If i had the time spare i would definately take up rallying, and im sure i will do exactly that at somepoint, but even then im sure i will still do the occasional trackday and drag day cause i enjoy those too.
Top speed runs dont really interest me from the point of view of doing them myself, but i do think its a very good test of an engine's ability so i always enjoy reading about Rods acheivements
27-07-2005, 11:40 AM
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Chip,
The reason that track days and circuit racing is so popular, is because it's the nest evolution from fast road driving.
Having done rallying, and serviced for my brother's car, I can tell you, it's a lot more difficult to keep the costs down whilst rallying because of the wear and tear on parts, and the continuing costs in being competitive/travelling/entry costs/parts etc etc etc
Rallying is also such a completely different skill -you can be quick on track without much experience, but being fast on a rally takes years to master.
The reason that track days and circuit racing is so popular, is because it's the nest evolution from fast road driving.
Having done rallying, and serviced for my brother's car, I can tell you, it's a lot more difficult to keep the costs down whilst rallying because of the wear and tear on parts, and the continuing costs in being competitive/travelling/entry costs/parts etc etc etc
Rallying is also such a completely different skill -you can be quick on track without much experience, but being fast on a rally takes years to master.
27-07-2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Chip,
The reason that track days and circuit racing is so popular, is because it's the nest evolution from fast road driving.
Having done rallying, and serviced for my brother's car, I can tell you, it's a lot more difficult to keep the costs down whilst rallying because of the wear and tear on parts, and the continuing costs in being competitive/travelling/entry costs/parts etc etc etc
Rallying is also such a completely different skill -you can be quick on track without much experience, but being fast on a rally takes years to master.
The reason that track days and circuit racing is so popular, is because it's the nest evolution from fast road driving.
Having done rallying, and serviced for my brother's car, I can tell you, it's a lot more difficult to keep the costs down whilst rallying because of the wear and tear on parts, and the continuing costs in being competitive/travelling/entry costs/parts etc etc etc
Rallying is also such a completely different skill -you can be quick on track without much experience, but being fast on a rally takes years to master.
The other real expense you dont mention is that you WILL write cars off rallying but its very rare on a trackday or a basic sprint/hillclimb
Its basically "motorsport lite" doing trackdays, its 50% of the fun at 5% of the overall cost!
27-07-2005, 11:48 AM
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yeah i just love watching top speed runs!
there he goes - cant see him anymore - lets watch the computer screen!!
fair play to people trying it but if i had the bottle and the money then i'd defo prefer to drive round a track than in a straight line!
there he goes - cant see him anymore - lets watch the computer screen!!
fair play to people trying it but if i had the bottle and the money then i'd defo prefer to drive round a track than in a straight line!
27-07-2005, 12:19 PM
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Dingy,
purely aimed at rod, delete this thread b4 it turns to sumting out my arse after a masalala night
purely aimed at rod, delete this thread b4 it turns to sumting out my arse after a masalala night
I've seen most of your posts today/yesterday and all they are is having a swipe at people and nothing constructive.....why dont you do us all a favour
27-07-2005, 01:54 PM
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Come on guys....let's not turn this forum into a bitching session....
Have to agree with FLO here....
If we can't all get on we're going to have to get a job lot of Kia Picantos and just tell you to shut up when you can't get them to do more than 50mph....let alone 200...
Have to agree with FLO here....
If we can't all get on we're going to have to get a job lot of Kia Picantos and just tell you to shut up when you can't get them to do more than 50mph....let alone 200...
27-07-2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Steve,
I think that Rod is only goading you about his "timed" figures, because you always harp on about how quick you and Karl's (NMS) cars are on your "arse dyno" experiences .
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I think that Rod is only goading you about his "timed" figures, because you always harp on about how quick you and Karl's (NMS) cars are on your "arse dyno" experiences
.:.
Have tried to make peace with Dingy on a couple of occations but its a bit late for that it seems.
Rod
27-07-2005, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Rich, I'm not so sure. Rods car has decentish suspension and brakes. He also has good rear beam which with some decent tyres means he gets good traction and its prepared to a very high standard. I think it WOULD be fast on track. Not mentally fast but still very very good at a track like Donno. It has big torque to pull out of the corners and I think it has enough pace on the straights
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND
or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace Im a total novice on the track & would never attempt it without lessons my son has suggested it for my 60th.
Kev would drive my car if i wanted & he has already suggested he would be a minimum of 3secs a lap quicker than Dingy at Donno, ive no idea but may well get Kev to find out i wonder how much Dingy would be prepared to wager on the outcome. Bugger that would shut him up.
The car will be stripped for totb maybe i will leave it out till ND.
27-07-2005, 05:17 PM
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Rod, i'd love to see your car in action round a strip, from what ive heard of the power delivery it would be SO much better than people give it credit for.
Might be worth swapping the rear springs for something firmer though possibly if you let Kev take it out at ND?
Might be worth swapping the rear springs for something firmer though possibly if you let Kev take it out at ND?
27-07-2005, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Porkie
Rich, I'm not so sure. Rods car has decentish suspension and brakes. He also has good rear beam which with some decent tyres means he gets good traction and its prepared to a very high standard. I think it WOULD be fast on track. Not mentally fast but still very very good at a track like Donno. It has big torque to pull out of the corners and I think it has enough pace on the straights
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND
or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace Im a total novice on the track & would never attempt it without lessons my son has suggested it for my 60th.
Kev would drive my car if i wanted & he has already suggested he would be a minimum of 3secs a lap quicker than Dingy at Donno, ive no idea but may well get Kev to find out i wonder how much Dingy would be prepared to wager on the outcome. Bugger that would shut him up.
The car will be stripped for totb maybe i will leave it out till ND.
27-07-2005, 05:33 PM
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Like I said, I'd like to see Rod's car on track as that is what I'm interested in.
Still, I think people are doing Dingy's car a diservice - it's PROPERLY fast round Donnington!
Still, I think people are doing Dingy's car a diservice - it's PROPERLY fast round Donnington!
27-07-2005, 05:37 PM
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Dingy,
purely aimed at rod, delete this thread b4 it turns to sumting out my arse after a masalala night
purely aimed at rod, delete this thread b4 it turns to sumting out my arse after a masalala night
I've seen most of your posts today/yesterday and all they are is having a swipe at people and nothing constructive.....why dont you do us all a favour
if u dont like what u read, then dont read
27-07-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You just seem to like to brag about how quick your car is, without substantiating anything, which is why it always seems to smell a bit like bullshit, and if it smells like bullshit, it usually IS bullshit
. Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has? The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring
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27-07-2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dingy
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You just seem to like to brag about how quick your car is, without substantiating anything, which is why it always seems to smell a bit like bullshit, and if it smells like bullshit, it usually IS bullshit
. Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has? The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring
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27-07-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DanRSturbo
Dingy, is that because you are confident that there is no way your car will get to 200mph, so the only way you can prove to everyone on this board how fast your car is, is to track it.
What would you say if Rod came steaming past you @ Donno on the 8th, hanging the rear end out, waving as he went past ?
What would you say if Rod came steaming past you @ Donno on the 8th, hanging the rear end out, waving as he went past ?
And your full of shit regarding top speed.....I am confident it will not hit 170 let alone 200 mate - cause its not designed to do it, has fuck all to do with confidence....
27-07-2005, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Steve,
I think that Rod is only goading you about his "timed" figures, because you always harp on about how quick you and Karl's (NMS) cars are on your "arse dyno" experiences .
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I think that Rod is only goading you about his "timed" figures, because you always harp on about how quick you and Karl's (NMS) cars are on your "arse dyno" experiences
.:.
Have tried to make peace with Dingy on a couple of occations but its a bit late for that it seems.
Rod
As for mike R - a big fat FUCK YOU is in order......
Times in my sig are real, and since then i have not tested cause the car is not ready, i have a gearbox that doesn't work as you fucking know and car is not mapped - well for 20psi......why don't you fuck off.
27-07-2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cossies4eva
Originally Posted by dingy
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You just seem to like to brag about how quick your car is, without substantiating anything, which is why it always seems to smell a bit like bullshit, and if it smells like bullshit, it usually IS bullshit
. Why not take a leaf out of Karl's book and just enjoy your car for the pleasure it gives you, rather than telling all and sundry it what power and performance your arse dyno "thinks" it has? The time for "claims" are WHEN you can substantiate them, otherwise just shut the fuck up, as it's boring
.looks like your past caring about handling as well the way your skip handles dingy
you been in it then ? drove it ?
27-07-2005, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Porkie
Rich, I'm not so sure. Rods car has decentish suspension and brakes. He also has good rear beam which with some decent tyres means he gets good traction and its prepared to a very high standard. I think it WOULD be fast on track. Not mentally fast but still very very good at a track like Donno. It has big torque to pull out of the corners and I think it has enough pace on the straights
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace
If I was Rod, I would soooo be stripping some weight out of it and getting it down to Donno on ND
or even just taking it as it is and if Rod doesn't think he would be upto driving it on track then I am sure Mark or Kev Atkins could get the car around at a VERY decent pace Im a total novice on the track & would never attempt it without lessons my son has suggested it for my 60th.
Kev would drive my car if i wanted & he has already suggested he would be a minimum of 3secs a lap quicker than Dingy at Donno, ive no idea but may well get Kev to find out i wonder how much Dingy would be prepared to wager on the outcome. Bugger that would shut him up.
The car will be stripped for totb maybe i will leave it out till ND.
27-07-2005, 10:22 PM
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come on lets all agree to disagree
with the turn out for the event totb i think the entries need encouraging rather than slating
i am for one happy that we have got a 200 mph cozzy on the team
it whould be nice to see a ford win the event
dingy i love youre mk2 it was flying at croft
i for one will be trying my hardest to do my best if i win anythink on the day i will be the one boasting all over the board
if you want to sort the men from the boys have a grudge match
points for handling ,top speed ,track laps etc
thanks jc
with the turn out for the event totb i think the entries need encouraging rather than slating
i am for one happy that we have got a 200 mph cozzy on the team
it whould be nice to see a ford win the event
dingy i love youre mk2 it was flying at croft
i for one will be trying my hardest to do my best if i win anythink on the day i will be the one boasting all over the board
if you want to sort the men from the boys have a grudge match
points for handling ,top speed ,track laps etc
thanks jc
27-07-2005, 10:27 PM
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puzzles me all this, rods car is fast, dingys car is also fast, love to see them strut there stuff, you really dont need to time dings car to establish wethere or not its fast i mean a fookin idiot could tell it was rapid as fuk, bit pointles all this ? 
27-07-2005, 10:58 PM
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puzzles me all this, rods car is fast, dingys car is also fast, love to see them strut there stuff, you really dont need to time dings car to establish wethere or not its fast i mean a fookin idiot could tell it was rapid as fuk, bit pointles all this ?
27-07-2005, 11:50 PM
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even appeared on the back of Nutters car at an event
So i believe an apology is due my way for that one
