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Old 22-07-2005, 10:30 AM
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you are sittin on the tube and you see a dodgy looking muslim sittin opposite you.....you see him drop his bag and walk off and same as yesterday it doesnt go off.......

would u A)GO after the wanka and kick his head in till he screams for mercy?

not bein funny if someone tried blowing me up i would be rather enraged.
B)run as far away as you could as quickly as you could
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C)Hold him until the police arrived and get him done properly??

I would personally do A and C combined to be honest.

What is anyone elses views?

disclaimer-this is no way meant to insult of offend anyone of a muslim culture or background
Old 22-07-2005, 10:31 AM
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btw wen i saw doesnt go off i mean the detonators do and just makes smoke!!!!!!!! but the bomb doesnt actually explode
Old 22-07-2005, 10:34 AM
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first i would rugby tackle him and then tickle his feet!! coz im well brave.
Old 22-07-2005, 10:36 AM
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dunno - its hard decision to make and IMO only one you can make when you are faced with such danger.
Old 22-07-2005, 10:38 AM
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how do you know hes not strapped with C4 too as they are perpared to die?

but fronted with the scenario i dont think you have time to think, you just react, as for weather its shitting your pants or doin the guy over, who knows?
Old 22-07-2005, 10:44 AM
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impossible to say unless put in the situation.. IMO

But, if there are literally loads and loads of people ie in a tube station, then again IMO people should have joined together and bundled the fooker Police would be literally on the scene prompto
Old 22-07-2005, 10:47 AM
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Not sure on this as I think everyone would love to knock the shit out of these guys but what you need to realise is that this is a guy that has just tried to kill himself so whats to say he doesnt have more stuff on him like fudgeass said
Old 22-07-2005, 10:59 AM
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I'd grab the fire extinguisher from the train and hurl it at his head. Thus knocking him out and rendering any suicide shite usless. Then wonder over smack him about a bit more with the fire extingusher on the head until the feds turn up.

I dont think you know what you'd really do untill (God forbid) your actually in that situation. Hopefully it wont come to that for any of us
Old 22-07-2005, 11:02 AM
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It is hard to say but you could be Mike Tyson and hard as fook but the other geeza would have no worries about killing himself in the process of killing you

That is the scary part!
Old 22-07-2005, 11:06 AM
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i don't think you can really answer this unless you're in the situation... I'd like to say i'd give him a bit of a kickingh and then hold him, but in reality, who knows?
Old 22-07-2005, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fudgeass
how do you know hes not strapped with C4 too as they are perpared to die?
That's exaclty why I think I might tackle him - two reasons:

1) I (hopefully we as others joined in) just might be able to stop him setting it off, and no-one get's hurt.

2) He might be just about to set it, or the bag, off anyway - if that is going to happen I think i'd rather be right on top of it than risk being in a wheelchair or something for the rest of my life, wishing I'd tackled the guy.

Perhaps twisted logic, but there you go.
Old 22-07-2005, 11:14 AM
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How do you differentiate between someone jus accidently leaving their bag behind and someone leaving a bomb? Lost properly offices arnt just empty rooms gathering dust...

Bearing in mind youd not be able to tell the difference between this guy/girl and probably, 70% of the travellers on the underground or whatever, whats to stop you jumping on and laying into some random geezer just cause you think you rambo and wanna be the big hero?
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What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
with his fingers in his ears

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Old 22-07-2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you


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Old 22-07-2005, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you
PMSL,

The police would probably arrest you for assault, and charge you
Old 22-07-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you
AFPMSL
Old 22-07-2005, 12:23 PM
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I would tackle them, as you cannot out run a bomb anyway, but you have a chance to stop it be tackling the man with his fingure on the trigger, plus if it didn't go off and he got away and then he blows up and kills others how would you feel if you could have stopped him?

PS

I'm no hero but just cannot stand around and watch
Old 22-07-2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears

I'm dying here
Old 22-07-2005, 12:42 PM
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id pick it up folow him home and folow him into his local mosqu then sit neer the door not leting any one out and find out exactley how many of these idiots want to di exactly but seriously if i thought i was going to die then fuck it i aint going to go quietly
Old 22-07-2005, 12:45 PM
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i think i'd have to give chase and in oreder to restrain the fooker until the fuzz turn up, proceed to snap the coonts fingers one by one while pinning face down in the gutter


Unfortunately that would prolly end up in assault, but worth every penny
Old 22-07-2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you

Old 22-07-2005, 12:52 PM
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If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
Old 22-07-2005, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
And if no-one had tackle the shoe bomber on the plane they would all have died
Old 22-07-2005, 12:55 PM
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I'd be leading the stampede out of the train....not looking back

Wimp....yes...but at least I could say that's my honest answer.
Old 22-07-2005, 12:57 PM
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I would open up a can of Jackie Chan on his ass !!...........

Then again...........









I would run like a bitch


Al...
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Originally Posted by RichardPON
If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
And if no-one had tackle the shoe bomber on the plane they would all have died
Yes, but have you ever been in a situation where you actually feared for your life?

If so, the please tell me exactly how you reacted.
Old 22-07-2005, 01:01 PM
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[quote] What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears you'd have to be at leat 80% sure then wouldn't you[quote]

Old 22-07-2005, 01:01 PM
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IMO u cant say until your in that situation! Fookin hard one that, if liek these people are have no regard for their own life then they wouldnt think about blowing themselves up if cornered!
Old 22-07-2005, 01:01 PM
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Well id say unless you get put in the position you cant say

For the last 5 days and forth coming 2 weeks, ive gotta stand on a gate armed, and with the other guard i stand with, we was talking about it, what if a bloke was walking towards us with what looked a dodgy package/or built unevenly ( saying he was packed with an explosive of somesort

Now to the Rules i have to go by ( MOD Rules ), i cant do anything till he makes a threat to me, so basically im fucked, he can walk up to me and go bang, Me dead or a serious veg

I cant cock ( Load a round) my rifle till he shows any sign of a weapon or threat to me by wanting to harm me


So unless he gets a gun out i cant do shit






Originally Posted by rsnissan
What about if he runs away shouting "durka durka jihad" with his fingers in his ears
you'd have to be at least 80% sure then wouldn't you

ANDY IM PISSING MYSELF
Old 22-07-2005, 01:02 PM
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PON, you should realise everyone here are rambo style superheros, the slightly gimpy looking people you see at shows and meets are totally different people who have similar names and cars

Frankly if there any chance of escaping death, i think il choose that option first thanks, by tackling him once he planted it you aint saving nobodys life.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Ratty
Originally Posted by RichardPON
If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
And if no-one had tackle the shoe bomber on the plane they would all have died
Yes, but have you ever been in a situation where you actually feared for your life?

If so, the please tell me exactly how you reacted.
I've faced down a man with a knife (sister in laws ex who given her a good hiding and had locked her in a room of the house), as I said I'm no hero but if I cannot stand by a just watch

I interviened when I saw a good of lads kicking hell out of 1 man, I got a broken jaw, teeth, check bone for the priveledge

I'd still do it all again as it the right thing to do, instead of walking by
Old 22-07-2005, 01:04 PM
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FPMSL @ Steve - absolutely mate.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
soooo true!
Old 22-07-2005, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Ratty
Originally Posted by RichardPON
If any of you were in that situation, you'd run like fuck as well.............

Tackling a man whose prepared to blow himself up? Grow up FFS.........
And if no-one had tackle the shoe bomber on the plane they would all have died
Yes, but have you ever been in a situation where you actually feared for your life?

If so, the please tell me exactly how you reacted.
I've faced down a man with a knife (sister in laws ex who given her a good hiding and had locked her in a room of the house), as I said I'm no hero but if I cannot stand by a just watch

I interviened when I saw a good of lads kicking hell out of 1 man, I got a broken jaw, teeth, check bone for the priveledge

I'd still do it all again as it the right thing to do, instead of walking by
Them situatiuons are VERY different FFS.

If you stopping/saving people then fucking right go for it, i HATE people who just stand by and let shit like people getting beat up for nothing happen.

Been loadsa similar situations, looked pretty likely I was gonna get stabbed the other sat cause of one of them situations, but if there was nobody to save, just a bomb that was likely to kill anyone who was near it, id get the FUCK away from it...
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As Steve says, totally different situation!

When a bomb goes off, or there's the threat of a bomb, the last thing you do is add another casualty to the list by sacrificing yourself.

This is real life, it aint Hollywood!
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It was just a normal morning commute for this PF user, then he spots a terrorist and springs into action



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If i was in fear of my life i don't think i'd have time to be rational. My first concern would be getting myself and other peeps away from the fookin maniac . If it was possible to tackle/beat fook out of the Terrorist in the process then that would be a bonus.
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i would have to say i would hope i could kick 2 ton of shit out of them.

but after seeing that he was planning on blowing up loads of people you never know what else he is capable of!

wouldnt be suprised if u chased him and he pulled out a gun on ya.

but i would try to grab something big and hard (no quere jokes please) and hit the fella so hard his mum and dentist together wouldnt recognise him.

lets be honest how much justice would you get through the propper procedures???
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i agree wit richpon it does depend until u have a situation were ur life is on the line u wont kno how to react.

i have been unfortunate enough to get in this situation as XRTSi put on ere previously on a forum i had a loony come running at me wit an axe........now if u have an axeman runnin at you u wud prob run i spose but i was too drunk to do anythin but freeze and he hit straight across the head and am now scard from my nose to ear and cud well have lost my life. If i hadnt had decided to think fcuk it i will stickup 4 myself ere and wit help from my m8s we beat him down and got him nicked and got court on August 3rd so i have been in a situation like that Rich and i decided to fight and came off better
THIS ONCE and i dont wanna b like that again.


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