How do you find out if a car was a ford press car ?
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I have been told that judging by my number plate, there is a chance my car (4x4 sapph cossie) was a press car, how can I go about finding out whether it's true or now ?
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Yeah I used to have a Sapphire 2000E (on a YAR plate) that was an ex ford company car. It had the round 'no manufacturers warranty' tag, and had also had a new engine fitted by ford in the first 18 months of its life!
Frog - it may simply be that it was registered in the same area as the ford cars... The first owner will be listed as Ford Motor Company LTD![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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Frog - it may simply be that it was registered in the same area as the ford cars... The first owner will be listed as Ford Motor Company LTD
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Originally Posted by frog
Neil, mine's a WOO ![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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I may have a pic of your car in one of my books..........PM the full reg if you want.....and I will see if I can find a pic or your car when it was new.
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Dont forget that all WOO actually means is where it was registered, so LOTS of them will have that reg that were nothing to do with ford.
Be nice if it was yours though frog and doug could find some pictures of it new
Be nice if it was yours though frog and doug could find some pictures of it new
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Originally Posted by Neil S
Frog - it may simply be that it was registered in the same area as the ford cars... The first owner will be listed as Ford Motor Company LTD ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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I guess I'd have to contact DVLA to find out who the first owner was ?:
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Be nice if it was yours though frog and doug could find some pictures of it new ![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Be nice if it was yours though frog and doug could find some pictures of it new ![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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Press fleet for the launch of the new Escort model range......Spiky and I believe that the white Es Cos on the right of the pic could well be his car.......as the one in the centre of the pic is only ONE reg number away from his.......(Ford supplied approx 24 Escort Cossie's on that UK press launch):
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Thanks for looking Doug.
Mine is pre-facelift (late J), so I guess that kinda automatically rules it out as a press car now that I think about it ?:
Mine is pre-facelift (late J), so I guess that kinda automatically rules it out as a press car now that I think about it ?:
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Originally Posted by frog
Thanks for looking Doug.Mine is pre-facelift (late J), so I guess that kinda automatically rules it out as a press car now that I think about it ?:
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We've got an extra slampanel under the bonnet with "nr 10 karmann" on it.
(on the right of the MD sticker as you can see on this picture).
So we were very curious aswell about the car's history 'coz we've never seen a plate like it before on another escos.
Ford Belgium was very helpful: "Yes sir, your car has been made in december '91. That's all we know. No sir, we can't seem to find the chassisnumber in our records."
Tried Karmann several times, but never got any answers.
So eventually went to see the first owner...
He said Ford had told Karmann to test the new assembly line by making 20 cars. If those cars were ok, production would begin.
Our car is the nr 10 car of that testbatch according to him.
Because nobody else seems to know anything about this, I can't really verify if it's true or not...
(on the right of the MD sticker as you can see on this picture).
So we were very curious aswell about the car's history 'coz we've never seen a plate like it before on another escos.
Ford Belgium was very helpful: "Yes sir, your car has been made in december '91. That's all we know. No sir, we can't seem to find the chassisnumber in our records."
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Tried Karmann several times, but never got any answers.
So eventually went to see the first owner...
He said Ford had told Karmann to test the new assembly line by making 20 cars. If those cars were ok, production would begin.
Our car is the nr 10 car of that testbatch according to him.
Because nobody else seems to know anything about this, I can't really verify if it's true or not...
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Doug ypu dont happen to have anything with J127 ATW on it, smokestone blue prefacelift saff. Was built 90 but not registered till 92.
Has a redtop engine and the 'no manufacturers warranty' stamps on the slam panel.
Has a redtop engine and the 'no manufacturers warranty' stamps on the slam panel.
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Originally Posted by MATCOS
wow see that 'G' plate Escos
, the earliest I have ever seen is an H and that was on the Escort Cosworth story video,thought that was the 1st
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Originally Posted by Jo
"nr 10 karmann" on it.......
So we were very curious aswell about the car's history 'coz we've never seen a plate like it before on another escos.
Ford Belgium was very helpful: "Yes sir, your car has been made in december '91. He said Ford had told Karmann to test the new assembly line by making 20 cars. If those cars were ok, production would begin.
Our car is the nr 10 car of that testbatch according to him.
Because nobody else seems to know anything about this, I can't really verify if it's true or not...![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
So we were very curious aswell about the car's history 'coz we've never seen a plate like it before on another escos.
Ford Belgium was very helpful: "Yes sir, your car has been made in december '91. He said Ford had told Karmann to test the new assembly line by making 20 cars. If those cars were ok, production would begin.
Our car is the nr 10 car of that testbatch according to him.
Because nobody else seems to know anything about this, I can't really verify if it's true or not...
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Doug ypu dont happen to have anything with J127 ATW on it, smokestone blue prefacelift saff. Was built 90 but not registered till 92. Has a redtop engine and the 'no manufacturers warranty' stamps on the slam panel.
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that j988 bpu looks like the one we got sent to our dealership in late 1991,came off the transporter with 2 flat tyres,buckled wheels,and scratches and dings all over it,went straight in to the bodyshop
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Originally Posted by jonsmiff
we used to put those "no manufacturers warranty"tags on cars that we had reshelled(used to work for ford)
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Jo, I reckon your car is one of these described/listed below:
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Which book are you getting that information from?
By the way... my enginenumber is YBT 019 (production started at 50 or something if I recall correctly)
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Has the number plate got raised digits, and pressed out of metal???
Alot of the press cars we used to deliver had these.
We used to deliver them between the press garage at brentford all over europe
Alot of the press cars we used to deliver had these.
We used to deliver them between the press garage at brentford all over europe
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Originally Posted by Jo
By the way... my engine number is YBT 019 (production started at 50 or something if I recall correctly)
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Going by the dates below and knowing when your car was built (i.e. before the dates shown below), your engine is just as you said.......deffo a pre-production unit built by Cosworth to fit in to those early press/promo Escorts
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The book says about YBT engines:
YBT production span: 23 March 1992 - February 1994
Total number built 5,186
1992 = 4,078 built
1993 = 788 built
1994 = 320 built to end of prod line
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Which book are you getting that info from
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