B13F RS

As above......... what is the norm in terms of horse power can these injectors goto??? i'm looking at running around 25psi so need to upgrade. I've also been looking at greys but surely these would be better???
And how much would light blues cost??

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KTCos,

Yes, Light Blues are the next step up from 803's (dark greens).........The light blues are also known as Motorsport 400's......very good spray pattern, and these Light Blues are often overlooked (peeps prefer to go for greys instead)......They are good for 400 BHP + a bit more with the corected fuel pressure.

Ask IMA (Phil) about cost, but dont forget you will need a chip to suit, and a good rolling road or live map session to get the set-up spot on!

On 26 LBS/PSI of boost my old Saph 4x4 with the Paul Bailey built engine made 406 BHP/396 ft/lbs torque on Interprpo rollers........I would say that the light blues are a perfect match for the T34B turbo..........But the correct set up - especially fueling is absolutelly essential

Stu @ M Developments

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If your actually going to BUY these injectors, then dont waste your time with 400s, go straight to 403's.

All "IMO" of course.

B13F RS

Thanks for ya advise Doug
A friend of mine is selling some cheap so thought they would be ideal to suit my set up running 25 psi. I do realise i need a chip and set up which is not a problem.

Stu....... why do ya think i should go to greys??? i do understand where ya coming from but i'm not after anymore than 380ish bhp which is what the light blues are good for?????

MKGCMAX

im running light blues @26 psi tailing off to 22 and they are well inside there limit car is 2wd running 375 bhp safe and reliable at that

B13F RS

Excellent mate thanks for ya input .its looking more likely me getting these cause they is well cheap

Rs Gus

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GREYS forget light blues

B13F RS

Why tho???? surely these are ok for what i want??

God i'm confused

timrud

One day you will want more, so go for the Greys.... Save yourself some money in the long run!

swerv

i went for light blues on my fairly standard engine(st head and cams) running 34psi at the top and about 26psi towards the top , this was a very nice conversion and would definatly have the same again!

i done 15kmls with no probs as well

foreigneRS

go for em. if you're getting em cheap, you'll be able to sell them on later without loss IF you go further and need greys.

Mike Rainbird

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The only problem I can forsee is that you will struggle to find and "off the shelf" chip for these injectors, which means someone will have to custom map you something. Certainly avoid someone elses "custom chip" for your engine thinking it will be okay, as it may have been mapped for different cams / c/r which could cause damage to your engine by either over or underfuelling.

Anonymous

I sold mine and changed for greys as they are on the VERY limit @ 380-400bhp on normal mapping...

Where as greys on on the limit @ 440, therefore you can run greys no were near the limit and have 380-400

Stu @ M Developments

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Dont be confused mate as my reasoning is simple.
Greys cost less than blues and are bigger and just as simple to map for perfect fuelling so why pay more for less?

If your getting them cheap then my argument is out the window, thats why i stated "If your buying them new "

Matt

you will be getting karl to map it wont you anyway keith? either injector type will do as both can be custom mapped. i have greys

B13F RS

I've now purchased the injectors so i'll be getting Karl to sort the chip
Can he still do them Matt if ya send the spec to him???

Thanks for ya help everyone

BrianB

can you recomend anyone who does this?, i am after getting a custom chip and rr setup,

how much does this typicaly cost?

B13F RS

Stu at Motorsport Developments , Karl at Norris Motorsport , M A Developements , SCS in Peterboghorror.

There's a few about mate but unsure of the exact cost?? your better off phoning them and getting a price

Matt

send/tell him the spec as best you know it so he can set a base map to get the car running with them in, then it will be custom mapped to suit it once its there, i think thats how its done, mine was done that way like but karl knew EVERYTHING about my engine before hand. im 100% sure it can be sorted out however its done pal

cant remember if you had verniers on or the std pulleys? if std then get some verniers before you go to make the most of the non std cams you have, save arsing about and get it all done at once like

GARETH T

i wouldnt be to bothered about the rolling road if i was you unless you wanna talk numbers down the pub with your mate

as said loads of tidy people out there who car really help you
msd
norris motorsport
turbosystems
engine advtantages
MAD

all got a good rep and im sure they all cousl help you out

B13F RS

Nice one for that mate i've been looking into getting some verniers,i'm also changing my breather set up cause i aint happy about it,i've just got meself a Spec R catch tank that sits near the filter and i'm going to get the other breather that goes with it. The one i got at the mo is a universal one from spec R and is fookin rubbish

SidZvh

Now then bud. Didn't realise you'd got your injectors already. When you hoping for it to be done for?

Beach

hmmm, wonder who purchased them dingy??? should be ok for my erst me thinks cant see me needing anything better and karl will map it so it should be fine

B13F RS

Hey up sid welcome to the mad house....lol

Not in no rush mate

BlackSaff

Swerv don't you mean my engine????

So does this mean i'm gonna see 400bhp then?

15k, you told me 10k

Tim

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Greys now on order

Anonymous

Chris, Blues are ok on a ERST mate They will be mint

Ave it Butcher...

B13F RS

Blues will be fine on mine too

Just want it to be ok at 25-26psi thats all and it won't on fookin 803's

Anonymous

i ran mine @ 26 psi held on greens for 6 months with no issues and i did it my self

Matt

your "im happy with it as it is" bollocks lasted a long time then i see tim

nice one though, you know it makes sense rodders

DaveEscos

greens are perfectly fine for 25 psi!

Stu @ M Developments

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Whats PSi got to do with this?

AIRFLOW is the key to destruction, not boost folks...

Matt

but 25psi isnt fine for a t34 car dave

Rs Gus

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who wants a puny 25psi

DaveEscos

25 psi, on greens, on a t34 is fine then

Rs Gus

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NO is it fook theres too muck mass airflow for the greens 2 be abble to suply enough fuel then pop!

DaveEscos

funny, my 28 peak, 25 held, wide open on nobles rollers on my esc cos a year or so ago was fine fuel wise.... same at EA with a little extra. Plenty of fuel

B13F RS

Dave i've ran 25psi on my current set up but was told to upgrade my injectors for the reason RSGus has said so shut it you muppet

southerners.......they know fookall!...lol

Mike Rainbird

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You can use multipliers in the EPROM and peak at 34psi and hold 26psi with 803s on a 0.48 a/r T3/4 NO PROBLEM . You get 385bhp / 403lb ft (engine dyno confirmed) and a 172mph car (Datron timing gear confirmed) .

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Mike,

Thats impressive!

What was the comp ratio of that engine?

Standard head/cams???????