FAO Cosworth Owners.. a warning!!
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Is your light warning system playing up occasionally?
Maybe teh horn goes off now and then, or someetimes sounds feeble?
Battery or voltage/charging problems?
Then beware...
The turbocharger on these cars gets so hot, that even short periods of running without the heatshield can cause this:
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And lead to a repair like this being required at great time and expense, and thats if your lucky and dont have the battery explode due to teh fact teh alternator output isnt fused, so it all shorts to earth like this one did![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
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Not a nice state of affairs
Maybe teh horn goes off now and then, or someetimes sounds feeble?
Battery or voltage/charging problems?
Then beware...
The turbocharger on these cars gets so hot, that even short periods of running without the heatshield can cause this:
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/stu@mdevelopments/Cooked%20wires/P1010080Small.jpg)
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/stu@mdevelopments/Cooked%20wires/P1010001Small.jpg)
And lead to a repair like this being required at great time and expense, and thats if your lucky and dont have the battery explode due to teh fact teh alternator output isnt fused, so it all shorts to earth like this one did
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![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/stu@mdevelopments/Cooked%20wires/P1010079Small.jpg)
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/stu@mdevelopments/Cooked%20wires/P1010081Small.jpg)
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Not a nice state of affairs
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ANYONE GOT A HEATSHIELD FOR SALE?
in all seriousness, think i may have to get myself one, cos i dont wanna mess like that in the engine bay after 7 months off the road
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in all seriousness, think i may have to get myself one, cos i dont wanna mess like that in the engine bay after 7 months off the road
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Not only does it cook the wiring folks, it cooks the brakes too...
How this guy can enjoy scottish roads with cooked wiring and fading brakes i will never know
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How this guy can enjoy scottish roads with cooked wiring and fading brakes i will never know
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Sheep double as a handy braking medium. Trust me.... I've killed 9 in my time.
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Similiar thing happened to me recently whereby ONLY the Blue wire got itself cut off from the alternator.
The car was an absolute nightmare to drive, alsorts of electrical problems were happening whilst i was driving the car. Like i said, that was only the little blue wire coming apart, hate to imagine if the whole thing had gone to pots like above.
This may sound a little silly but how do ou protect them then, exactly where does the heat shield go?
The car was an absolute nightmare to drive, alsorts of electrical problems were happening whilst i was driving the car. Like i said, that was only the little blue wire coming apart, hate to imagine if the whole thing had gone to pots like above.
This may sound a little silly but how do ou protect them then, exactly where does the heat shield go?
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incase you didnt know, wiring overheating + melting + shorting out also caused this to happen to my old car:
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protect that wiring guys!
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protect that wiring guys!
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
incase you didnt know, wiring overheating + melting + shorting out also caused this to happen to my old car:
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protect that wiring guys!
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/GalballyJ/XR4x4TT%20-%202nd/DSC02279.jpg)
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/GalballyJ/XR4x4TT%20-%202nd/DSC02192.jpg)
protect that wiring guys!
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
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Dumpvalve is still there tho, lol.
It was BLATANTLY the tuners fault tho and you know it
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Running with no heatshield is a BAD idea on a cossie.
I found the heatshields to be mega weak (ie too easy to crack/crumble) and a pain in the arse so i binned mine, heat wrapped the top section of the manifold and the downpipe, re-routed the wiring slightly, used a bit of heat-proof tape here n there, and job done, easy to access, no heat probs, everyones a winner
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lets not get into that old discussion about tuners in dartford again eh ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
on another note, the wiring on my CURRENT car was found to be extremely shonky and a fire hazard when inspected by kenny @ msd!
that wasnt heat related tho, that was the bloke twisting + taping wires instead of soldering em properly ![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
wiring is SOOOOOO important and so many people overlook it![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
hence why i'm getting all mine sorted out by someone who know what theyre doing and getting all new loom n stuff made up "just incase"
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on another note, the wiring on my CURRENT car was found to be extremely shonky and a fire hazard when inspected by kenny @ msd!
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wiring is SOOOOOO important and so many people overlook it
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hence why i'm getting all mine sorted out by someone who know what theyre doing and getting all new loom n stuff made up "just incase"
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Some good advice there Stu.
Saw it several times when working at SCC - causes all manner of electrical faults, and could ultimately lead to a car fire.
After seeing this a couple of years ago, I ripped off the loom tape around that area, checked all the wiring, rewrapped it, covered it in heatproofing tape, and made sure it was all securely tied down.
Whilst we're in that area, same goes for the clutch cable too! How many of them have you seen millimetres from the 2wd manifold/no heatshield
Saw it several times when working at SCC - causes all manner of electrical faults, and could ultimately lead to a car fire.
After seeing this a couple of years ago, I ripped off the loom tape around that area, checked all the wiring, rewrapped it, covered it in heatproofing tape, and made sure it was all securely tied down.
Whilst we're in that area, same goes for the clutch cable too! How many of them have you seen millimetres from the 2wd manifold/no heatshield
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Yup make sure you get heat shield peeps!!!
I got spec-r one and Heat wrap around Exhaust
Also i fire extinguisher om the car just incase
I ran with not heat shield before for just 30 so miles, cant remember why but had to! It burnt the rubber around the clutch cable etc
So sod not running one!
I got spec-r one and Heat wrap around Exhaust
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I ran with not heat shield before for just 30 so miles, cant remember why but had to! It burnt the rubber around the clutch cable etc
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no problem with the wires ur the man 2 sort it out stu. thats y they bring the cars 2 u as thers no one better. i will be spking 2 u shortely bout a live mapping session 4 my escort cosworth so i hope my wires are tidy.
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SHITTTTT
Mines cut out the other night my battery for some reason lost charge and engine totally cut out
put jump leads on and started fine and since cleaned and re-done battery terminals which were mounted with grime and dirt to say the least
its not done it again thank god but need new heatshild ASAP clutch cable has started to melt
going out to put my heatwrap on now before i get heatshield
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Job Done...
New alternator charge and power cabling.
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Rest of the loom run around the wing instead, away from potential future problems.
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New battery installed, and one potential inferno is safe again.
Sadly, its taken the best part of 6 hours, so take care out there, fit those heatshields.
New alternator charge and power cabling.
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/stu@mdevelopments/Cooked%20wires/12.jpg)
Rest of the loom run around the wing instead, away from potential future problems.
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New battery installed, and one potential inferno is safe again.
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Sadly, its taken the best part of 6 hours, so take care out there, fit those heatshields.
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