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Old 05-07-2005, 12:16 PM
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about 20 standard 1s greg!
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He must be a bit of a fool to take it for a tune with a crack in the manifold
& thats my fault/problem because!?

I sold the car in full working order with a power graph for 290hp!

It made that power or there abouts on @ least 3 differnt rolling roads!? & god knowws how many times @ each rolling road!

As far as I was concerned the car was that power! it dusted most things on the road with out any trouble! put down good times for the weight of the car & condtion of tyres & my abilities!
Im not saying its your fault, im saying the new owner is a fool for taking it to the rolling road when its was fooked
Old 05-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
Old 05-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
about 20 standard 1s greg!
you fruit cake,hope my uprated one lasts a while!
Old 05-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Ok thats fair engouh! But dont come on my threads slaggin down the car when it made the power on many different occasions & different venue's!
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Originally Posted by Ryan
lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
Exactly Ry!

4th gear in the dry wheel spin kinda suggestes more than 200hp as well!

Greg I hope it does m8! but i used to get fully re-built boxes & new diffs for Ł150 so didnt mind chewin 1 up every few months!

I was amazed the 1 lasted @ brunters! Nick will tell ya i did my best to kill it off!
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Im not slagging the car, ive looked at it many a time at the shows and have lots of pics of it but what im saying is it seems the further north you come the less power you get.

It will be interesting to see what power he gets with the new manifold on it
Old 05-07-2005, 12:23 PM
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Aye Ry would b more impressive if we actually new how much the fookin thignn weighed! she was a wee bit heavier than your average rst! maybe a bit heavier than your average saff!
Old 05-07-2005, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
I suppose it's out of the question that AVA "saw" 200bhp to try and coax money out of the customer??

In my experience of talking to them, unless they tuned it, the car is shit. I mean most tuners have their own views, though they can normally produce good results. These guys seem to think if they never tuned the car it is crap full stop.

ALL IMHO
Old 05-07-2005, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry_GTi
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lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
I suppose it's out of the question that AVA "saw" 200bhp to try and coax money out of the customer??

In my experience of talking to them, unless they tuned it, the car is shit. I mean most tuners have their own views, though they can normally produce good results. These guys seem to think if they never tuned the car it is crap full stop.

ALL IMHO
Oh boy....

Where's my worm/can re-combinating device.
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LOL

Paul mapped the car & everywhere i took the car all the tuners comentid on how good & strong the car felt! fueling was always spot on! curve was as smooth as a baby's butt!

The bloke @ PTS had a semi runnin it up on the rollers!
Old 05-07-2005, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
LOL

Paul mapped the car & everywhere i took the car all the tuners comentid on how good & strong the car felt! fueling was always spot on! curve was as smooth as a baby's butt!

The bloke @ PTS had a semi runnin it up on the rollers!
Nice one mate. That says it all really.

Awesome car, one of my all time faves, and looks like it's just getting better.
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
4th gear in the dry wheel spin kinda suggestes more than 200hp as well!
Cool, if thats how you judge it then the next time you want a car tuning bring it to me, i will knock the tracking out by 10 degrees and charge you 5 grand, and you can wheelspin away a happy man
Old 05-07-2005, 12:32 PM
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Yup!
Im glad I sold it to Stu! He's a good lad just not to clued up on everything! but i dont mind directing him in the right mods for the car!

a gearbox would of made that acr a 13sec car all day everyday @ every venue with any form of tyre!
Old 05-07-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry_GTi
Originally Posted by Ryan
lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
I suppose it's out of the question that AVA "saw" 200bhp to try and coax money out of the customer??

In my experience of talking to them, unless they tuned it, the car is shit. I mean most tuners have their own views, though they can normally produce good results. These guys seem to think if they never tuned the car it is crap full stop.

ALL IMHO
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Can you tell me about another RS Turbo in Scotland that AVA havnt built that has been on AVAs rollers and made over 200bhp@ the wheels ???????????
Old 05-07-2005, 12:33 PM
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cheers chip!

that was after the trackin was done by the way!

PMSL @ Rudey! I told u that in confidence!
Old 05-07-2005, 12:34 PM
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Quick question:

If the car runs loads and loads of torque but not that high a bhp figure. Does that mean the super smooth baby arse like curve tails off massively once it gets up a few rpm?

What top speed did the car make?

RW
Old 05-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by T28 RST



Can you tell me about another RS Turbo in Scotland that AVA havnt built that has been on AVAs rollers and made over 200bhp@ the wheels ???????????
Nope as I don't keep track of them.........

I fail to see your point though....................
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It didnt liek to rev I will say that!

I never managed a top speed run as the day we were @ brunters the police were using the bottom 1/2 of the run way! so had to use the turn off 1/2 way down!

But it went of the clock!
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Aye that was long b4 i built my car i did that! b4 i drove yours i was only used to 170hp!

He did get it thoguh! ta da M3!
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hahahaha 2 secs i will find it scoty!
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Originally Posted by Barry_GTi
Originally Posted by Ryan
lewis the Brunter 1/4 times speak for themselves, a 200bhp car could not have got them.
I suppose it's out of the question that AVA "saw" 200bhp to try and coax money out of the customer??

In my experience of talking to them, unless they tuned it, the car is shit. I mean most tuners have their own views, though they can normally produce good results. These guys seem to think if they never tuned the car it is crap full stop.

ALL IMHO
The way you are taking you car is SHIT.

You have prolly took you car there and it never made the power it was meant to so you think they are shit.

Proove me wrong.
Old 05-07-2005, 12:41 PM
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I remember when Gar called me!

"good news & bad news!
the good news is the clutch is in!
bad news is Ive broke somethin & i dont know what"

get a call 10 mins later

"its ok Ive just twirlly wirrlyied a drive shaft"



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Old 05-07-2005, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by T28 RST

The way you are taking you car is SHIT.

You have prolly took you car there and it never made the power it was meant to so you think they are shit.

Proove me wrong.
Hahahaha what makes you think I give a shit and want to prove you wrong?? This is from past experience and friends experiences. I now have an R1 so yeah my company car is a bit shit but it's never been on AVA's rollers...........

I did once however take my 106 GTi there(around 1998/99), which made 125bhp, now everyone tells me that AVA only do wheels figures, but as the 106 GTi is only 120bhp as standard at the fly and mine had only an exhaust and filter(which I was told would suck in hot air and make the car run lean, and lose me power BTW )....... where do I stand on power?

I mean did it have 125bhp at wheels????

Or was it a "bullshit" fly figure????

I am not arguing anymore about it, this is just my opinion on them, feel free to have your own.
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Originally Posted by T28 RST
I know its been said before but you sold it with 290bhp and when it came to scotland it made less than 200@ the wheels

is it just me or is something not right here.
it made quite good power on wallace performance r/r in aberdeen when the rollers were new! think i was about 260 there? my car also made good power there! only 2 bhp down on avas rollers!
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rolling roads sucks any how its what it does on the road that counts
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Originally Posted by bob s2zvh
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I know its been said before but you sold it with 290bhp and when it came to scotland it made less than 200@ the wheels

is it just me or is something not right here.
it made quite good power on wallace performance r/r in aberdeen when the rollers were new! think i was about 260 there? my car also made good power there! only 2 bhp down on avas rollers!
Thats were he is getting it mapped soon!

I totally agree Al! & as u well know she was gr8 fun on the road!

except under braking b4 Brom sorted it all out for me!
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I know its been said before but you sold it with 290bhp and when it came to scotland it made less than 200@ the wheels

is it just me or is something not right here.
it made quite good power on wallace performance r/r in aberdeen when the rollers were new! think i was about 260 there? my car also made good power there! only 2 bhp down on avas rollers!
What do you mean when they were new, do they loose power as they get older

Waht did yours make at AVA@ the wheels ????????
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as long as its not wallace him self thats mapping it!
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Originally Posted by T28 RST
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I know its been said before but you sold it with 290bhp and when it came to scotland it made less than 200@ the wheels

is it just me or is something not right here.
it made quite good power on wallace performance r/r in aberdeen when the rollers were new! think i was about 260 there? my car also made good power there! only 2 bhp down on avas rollers!
What do you mean when they were new, do they loose power as they get older

Waht did yours make at AVA@ the wheels ????????
146.8@ the wheels! was told before they ran it up! it would have more than 120@ wheels cos it had a scopion exhaust! 2 weeks later at wallaces made 145@wheels!
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What do you mean when they were new, do they loose power as they get older

Think they might do actually! not to sure but i believe they do need calibrating every so often! I may be wrong though! it wouldnt b the 1st time! & Im sure chip will be the 1st to crrect me if I am mistaken! or rainbum!
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LOL! nice picture its a wicked example of what you can do to an rst
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cheers fella!

Your fezzy looks rather nice aswell! very clean!
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I know its been said before but you sold it with 290bhp and when it came to scotland it made less than 200@ the wheels

is it just me or is something not right here.
it made quite good power on wallace performance r/r in aberdeen when the rollers were new! think i was about 260 there? my car also made good power there! only 2 bhp down on avas rollers!
What do you mean when they were new, do they loose power as they get older

Waht did yours make at AVA@ the wheels ????????
146.8@ the wheels! was told before they ran it up! it would have more than 120@ wheels cos it had a scopion exhaust! 2 weeks later at wallaces made 145@wheels!
Well AVA were right then it did make more than 120@ the wheels.

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