Anyone off ere in 2 Focus Rs's on the A130 Lastnight ? I WON
22-06-2004, 10:00 AM
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the coupe is a bit gay then?ok then but it still knocks the spots off a ctr in all performance tests!!!!
and the fiat hasnt broke down on me other than the engine blow and i have done 30k+ hard miles in it and it now has 94k on the clock!!
honda are known for building good engines but they are also known for building cars for grandads!!!!
have you tried to race this banana yellow coupe?if its a 20vt i bet you darent!!stick to racing hot hatches and leave the proper racing to people with proper cars!
and the fiat hasnt broke down on me other than the engine blow and i have done 30k+ hard miles in it and it now has 94k on the clock!!
honda are known for building good engines but they are also known for building cars for grandads!!!!
have you tried to race this banana yellow coupe?if its a 20vt i bet you darent!!stick to racing hot hatches and leave the proper racing to people with proper cars!
22-06-2004, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Residual values are shocking, servicing prices are astronomical,cambelt change is a fortune,
and they're slow.
Top Speed 149mph
0-60 6.0secs
0-100 14.5secs
30-70 5.4secs
Now I would hardly call that slow for a standard FWD car Rich!
In fact I don't know of a standard FWD car beating those times ever?
22-06-2004, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
I'm with Mark - try it on with our Focus too............
im sure your name is on the log book as well as rob's then
you fecking mardy Lord!
22-06-2004, 01:53 PM
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Rich talking out of his ARSE again, residual values are crap???? doesnt this make them a bit of a bargain to pick up, brucie bonus in my view, two choices a fucked saff for 5 grand on a g plate or a nice looking 20v turbo with a nice interia on a p palte with like 60000miles on it, let me think???
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
22-06-2004, 02:10 PM
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Talking crap eh?
Okay, so it's a cheap car to buy? So what?
Have you bought a manifold from Fiat recently then? That'll be £400 for the manifold then please. That's plus fitting.
The cambelt book time lists as 13.8 hours. Do you realise that at average London independant garage prices of £40 per hour plus vat, that's still £650!
And when was I comparing it to a Ford? AT least if the Ford has problems, you can take it in small doses, whereas most problems on the 20V Turbo are very costly indeed.
Dave - nope, that'll be the company car then. Cock
Okay, so it's a cheap car to buy? So what?
Have you bought a manifold from Fiat recently then? That'll be £400 for the manifold then please. That's plus fitting.
The cambelt book time lists as 13.8 hours. Do you realise that at average London independant garage prices of £40 per hour plus vat, that's still £650!
And when was I comparing it to a Ford? AT least if the Ford has problems, you can take it in small doses, whereas most problems on the 20V Turbo are very costly indeed.
Dave - nope, that'll be the company car then. Cock
22-06-2004, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
The cambelt book time lists as 13.8 hours. Do you realise that at average London independant garage prices of £40 per hour plus vat, that's still £650!
However, yes in general they are can be very costly for parts etc.
22-06-2004, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Of course it can Ian - we've done 4 this year
Interestingly on the subject of servicing costs & hourly rates etc. In Autocar today there was this in the news in brief:
"Some UK Main Dealers are charging up to three times the national average for labour. Warranty Direct found a London BMW dealer charging £153 an hour"
22-06-2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
You should see what the overheads are like
22-06-2004, 03:31 PM
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Not many in centre of london, lot of the work gets shipped out to the outskirts, and you should see some of the insurance contracts someone we know recently spent 5k on a dinner and meeting with a insurance company, contract is worth shite loads, hourly rate of £80 for paint and bodywork!
22-06-2004, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
so to recap i had a race with 2 focus Rs's know Fiats were invovled or halmed in anyway 
did i mention I beat them
did i mention I beat them Okay, back to the original topic...........I say bullshit, the RS's were just playing with ya
22-06-2004, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
have you had the limiter taken of the fiat ??? as my m8s only goes to a speedo reading of 155 o and sorry bleed valve hehehehe
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22-06-2004, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
The Fiat 20V T is an awful car!
Residual values are shocking, servicing prices are astronomical, cambelt change is a fortune, they're prone to cracking exhaust manifolds, and they're slow.
I'm with Mark - try it on with our Focus too............
Residual values are shocking, servicing prices are astronomical, cambelt change is a fortune, they're prone to cracking exhaust manifolds, and they're slow.
I'm with Mark - try it on with our Focus too............
servicing is dear at main dealers yes but i do mine myself so it doesnt cost much!cambelt is about £400 from a specialist.manifolds do crack yes,so what!!
theyre slow eh?never seen a standard coswroth with a 0-100mph time under 15 seconds!!!have embarresed many cossies!!
22-06-2004, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
The Fiat 20V T is an awful car!
Residual values are shocking, servicing prices are astronomical, cambelt change is a fortune, they're prone to cracking exhaust manifolds, and they're slow.
I'm with Mark - try it on with our Focus too............
Residual values are shocking, servicing prices are astronomical, cambelt change is a fortune, they're prone to cracking exhaust manifolds, and they're slow.
I'm with Mark - try it on with our Focus too............
servicing is dear at main dealers yes but i do mine myself so it doesnt cost much!cambelt is about £400 from a specialist.manifolds do crack yes,so what!!
theyre slow eh?never seen a standard coswroth with a 0-100mph time under 15 seconds!!!have embarresed many cossies!!
22-06-2004, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Talking crap eh?
Okay, so it's a cheap car to buy? So what?
Have you bought a manifold from Fiat recently then? That'll be £400 for the manifold then please. That's plus fitting.
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Okay, so it's a cheap car to buy? So what?
Have you bought a manifold from Fiat recently then? That'll be £400 for the manifold then please. That's plus fitting.
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cambelt isnt an engine out job!!fiat have lowered their prices recently cos they know it isnt either!!takes about 4-6 hours dependent on skill of mechanic!!not a job for your average ford mechanic though!!
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22-06-2004, 10:16 PM
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Rich talking out of his ARSE again, residual values are crap???? doesnt this make them a bit of a bargain to pick up, brucie bonus in my view, two choices a fucked saff for 5 grand on a g plate or a nice looking 20v turbo with a nice interia on a p palte with like 60000miles on it, let me think???
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
My Saphhire cost me £4500 on a H plate
Decisions decisions.
FWD hair dressin' hommo car or 4WD "classic"Mark
23-06-2004, 08:30 AM
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Ian2wdsaffcos sounds like a cosworth owners usual excuse or maye the actuator was weak
Mark Rs2300 I dont want a old banger saff If i did I would of bought one when they were not so rusty
Mark Rs2300 I dont want a old banger saff If i did I would of bought one when they were not so rusty
23-06-2004, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kay2
Rich talking out of his ARSE again, residual values are crap???? doesnt this make them a bit of a bargain to pick up, brucie bonus in my view, two choices a fucked saff for 5 grand on a g plate or a nice looking 20v turbo with a nice interia on a p palte with like 60000miles on it, let me think???
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
prone to cracking manifolds- as opposed to all the little faults you get coming up on saffs and three doors every car has a week point
My Saphhire cost me £4500 on a H plate
Decisions decisions.
FWD hair dressin' hommo car or 4WD "classic"Mark
compare that to my friends 20v turbo which he paid £4300 for, full service history 57000miles already had the belt change absolutely mint in a lovely metalic blue compared to your white H plate shopping trolley (classic ROFL
) and i love fords mate but dont make me laugh, supercar looks for 4 1/2 grand or a fecking sierra, go play with yourself you anarack
23-06-2004, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DanS
Me and max trounced a Type R a few weeks back...
soooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooow 
soooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooow
in that case a trounced a Fiat camper van the other day arent i big I mean there worth 40k
23-06-2004, 09:36 AM
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I thought my point was obvious!
soooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooow
A std focus gives mine a very close run... but a Type R just gets embarrassed!! :P
So my point explained...... the focus was going easy on you
ps. Rust is good! makes the car lighter!
23-06-2004, 09:48 AM
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Dan S there only 200BHP what do you expect lol and the Focus wasnt going easy the time for a standard foc and civ are nigh on indentical really I caught him napping he couldnt catch up bar that performance was pretty equal
25-06-2004, 05:44 AM
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kev,when my coupe was std(220bhp) i easily beat a new 330ci bmw with 231bhp!!!bhp doesnt make that much difference!!i could give my coupe 400bhp(and more!)and it still would get beaten by a superlight r500 with 230bhp!!!
you came onto a ford site spouting off that you have beaten to fords,did you expect not to get a bit of stick???
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you came onto a ford site spouting off that you have beaten to fords,did you expect not to get a bit of stick???
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25-06-2004, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by beast
kev,when my coupe was std(220bhp) i easily beat a new 330ci bmw with 231bhp!!!bhp doesnt make that much difference!!i could give my coupe 400bhp(and more!)and it still would get beaten by a superlight r500 with 230bhp!!!
you came onto a ford site spouting off that you have beaten to fords,did you expect not to get a bit of stick???
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you came onto a ford site spouting off that you have beaten to fords,did you expect not to get a bit of stick???
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mate i have been on this ford site since it started and before that the RSBB for a few years until it wents tits and everyone move passionford land
this is my first none ford ever thus i am allowed to give stick
25-06-2004, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Dannfire
ill beat ur Civic no probs....... 
so ur point is
27-06-2004, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dannfire
Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Dannfire
ill beat ur Civic no probs.......
so ur point is let me borrow a bottle of NOS to even it up
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