Ginge !

need help people, ive been accused of dangerous driving on st annio road, the thing is it dont exsist but on looking at the form its actually ST Ann's road with shit hand writing, again though im innocent, but i did used to pass a road that joins it everyday at that time but thats not st ann's road and the summons is for st annio road

can i get off it

on and it just says driving in a dangerous and wreckless manor on 10/01/2005


now serious guys as i now need my licence for my job

do i need to get legalk advice or can i just tell the court they thick and the dirty grass has bad handwriting and get off it on a technicality

or can i just plead not guilty on the grounds ive never driven on that road in my life , then ask for actual proof that it was my car

It's Czech Mate

If you speak like you write mate unless you get legal aid or a solicitor you're shafted

Daveyboy

dunno where you stand on the fact that the street doesnt exist and you've never been on it, but as far as i know, they have 6 months to charge you frm the date of the offence. The date shown is over 6 months ago. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding of being charged.

BUK

What happend ? were you pulled over and charged by the police at the time of the incident ?

Either way i would speak to your legal people.

Ginge !

that i would agree with but if the road dont exsist and the offence was actually on seven sisters road then surly im innocent of the charge

getting legal aid would have been easy last week as all i had to do was sign on then get a free sollicitor

now i gotta pay and im inocent, the only dangerous driving i do is undertake in bus lanes and force my way back in

thats what fooking bus drivers do all the time

GARETH T

just write a brief assay on what happened,



they will read it out in court, they will all fall asleep and forget about everything when then wake up

Ginge !

thats what im doing, posting on passionford as thats the closest to a legal team i got

the did in all honesty send me a letter to pop in the old bill station to discuss it but with being out of work and on the pc all day i never had a chance to do it


im inocent though , as far as the charge is concerned i never was on that road !!!!!, it dont exsist as the road name on the form that was filled in has doctors handwriting, and the fact its not a road i travel on either


dont ya get out of things on technicalitys

red october

i've heard that 6 month thing aswell, at least as far as speeding goes anyhow - good luck, try citizens advice! !

Mike Rainbird

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If you were stopped at the time, then they're going to do they're best to get you (and would have issued you with a verbal NIP, so they have plenty of time to do you). If you weren't stopped, it wasn't you, you have no recollection of driving down the road on that date and they need to provide you (by law) with all the evidence they have that it was you.

Ginge !

i was not tugged, i got a letter to attend haringey nick to discussa allegation for dangerous driving

as it was a meeting and not your being nicked i stuck it in the bin with the unpayed parking tickets i get

CossieRich

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Ginge,

Lets hope you dont have to do any writing otherwise old bill will need to get an interpreteur

And of course you should seek legal advice mate

Ginge !

mike its a small slip like a producer size that i got a photocopy of and the person attending to give evidence name is on it, theres not a second whitness though

on the photocopy of the slip it states a white ford, my reg and the road and post code

i was not stopped at the time and except for undertaking in buslanes at high speed im inocent and the road it crosses does have a bus lane with no cameras on it tht allows me to get to work on time ( see bus lanes are a good thing )



theres a part at the top saying if poss please get name and address of offender , he just used fooking DVLA and told em my reg

theres a bit on the back for my discription, name address ect but there not filled in, does that mean i was going to fast for him to stop me


but seriously im shitting it now as i dont wanna get any points or a ban when technically im inocent

Ginge !

theres also a bit attached with my licence history stapled to it

shows ive been banned when i was 18 and ive got 9 points still for being a naughty boy

and a copy of my licence too, does that mean they done all that reasearch ( phoned DVLA ) but cant read there own hand writing or a road sign


why is it the innocent people get nicked

GARETH T

get legal advise mate,

Westy

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legal advise all the way mate...

Not guilty

It's Czech Mate

If you're facing a ban mate i'd deffo seek legal advice. By the sound of it a good brief will get it thrown out

Mike Rainbird

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Personally I would write back saying that you do not recall the incident, that you were not stopped for any such incident and that you have never received any notice of intended prosecution. Then add the fact that it is outside the 6 month limit for sending an NIP / summons and see what happens (as well as asking for them to provide all the evidence as you are entitled to by law).

Disabled Account

Ginge, remember most busses in London have cameras on board to record bus lane offences.......These are mounted on the front of the bus (concealed) and the camera is recording all the time through the route..........most prob the sequence with your undertaking will be used as the main evidence

Ginge !

cant i just ignore it like the other one

see the hassle of owning a car , the fooker dont have a engine and its still giving me a arse ache

i think ill go court and tell em what i think and if it goes wrong can i appeal

Adam_BlackRS

What evidence do they have ?

What did you actually do to be "accused" of dangerous driving ?

Who reported you ?

Seek Professional legal advise

Westy

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sorry to hijack.. but a few clever people on here If you get done by a mobile speed camera, van type..How long before they send you a fine/points is it please..

Disabled Account

Within 14 days you should receive a NIP (notice of intent to procecute).........

Ginge !

doug i know quite a bit about cameras in bus lane and on busses and i can tell you that its not a bus lane camera thats done me

its either a comunity geek wannabe copper, traffic warden or a copper


eitherway im inocent !!!!!!

Westy

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if thats for me.. then fooooooook I thought it was 7

Westy

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and thanks

Disabled Account

The good news it that usually you recieve the (NIP) notice in the post within 2 - 3 days.............They are very efficient at sending these out (in Somerset anyway).

Westy

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woooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo, there is hope after all

cheers douggy

Mike Rainbird

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Ginge,
I am a little confused as to how someone who freely admits to driving like a twat "cutting up cars, weaving in and out of the bus lane", is innocent . You're going DOWN (for crimes to hairstyles ) .

Ginge !

hey not cutting up cars, getting back into the flow of traffic

bus lanes are just roads painted red remember and as i pay 165 quid a year i deserve to use the bus lane

why should the poor get to places quicker than the wealthy

mike on this ocassion i am inocent !!!!!!

the road dont exsist as its a admin error and the road im acused of being on is not the road with a bus lane, im also just assuming its the bus lane thing as i always slow down for the speed camera there so cant be that

Doh

deffo get legal advice, you can claim costs if you win... whos prosocuting? CPS? an individual?

u need to get your sh*t together, you must of said your innocent about 10 times on this thread! if you are truely innocent then whats the worry...

however you've also stated, that the only dangerous stuff you "do" is overtake on the inside (not undertake btw) in buslanes and force your way in further down, you've been previous banned and currently got 9 points.... you say that in court and they'll throw the book at you!

and don't ignore the summons, unless you want the old bill round your house arresting you during your sunday lunch

dangerous driving is serious, possible prison time dependng on the offence and your previous record (which doesn't sound good)

Doh

oh and if they've got some kind of video evidence then the road name won't matter

It's Czech Mate

I fail to see how the hell you can moan about being innocent when you admit to using the bus lanes to undertake.....cruise the mway at 90 and have maxed out the cossie at 135mph.

Bend over and take it like a man

I also commit driving offences but if caught fair and square wont cry about them in public

RichardPON

Surely the bottom line is:

You were spotted by a police officer committing an act of dangerous driving.

The evidence they have will be the eye-witness testimony of the policeman concerned.

You ignored a letter sent to your house to discuss the situation (which would have been the time to say "I have no idea what you're on about officer").


Personally, I would do as Mike says - write back, saying that you have no recollection of the events in question, and that you don't even recall being in that time and that place.

Hopefully that will prompt them to reveal that it maybe just the word of one police officer, which someone of legal qualification may be able to argue against.

P.S. Get someone else to write the letter, as I'm sure the CPS wont want to hear about the latest mods to yuor Escort Tennis Cabriolet

Mike Rainbird

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Well you "might" get a way with it on a technicality, but they can apply for an ammended summons if it is just menial information that is incorrect due to admin errors. If it is a gross error, like completely the wrong place, then you "may" get away with it, but not for a minor spelling mistake. Get in touch with a good motoring solicitor, first consultation is usually free (but AFTER you have got the evidence off them, so you know what you're up against - as I said, they HAVE to provide you a copy of all their evidence by LAW).

Deano

CLASS

St3V3_C

This is admitting what you are doing is dangerous driving, you really need to never say a word to the police, as you will definately incriminate yourself Get a brief.

Oh, and, someone using a bus lane to overtake me when I'm sat in traffic? Pisses me right off

Oranoco

Oh dear Ginge mate

You need to speak to a solicitor and one that specialises in motoring law. Get your butt onto www.pepipoo.com and ask for advice. For christ sake don't admit to tearing up the bus lanes though

Ginge !

pisses me off when people on buses overtake me to collect there benifit in a hurry from the post office

the way i look at it is like this

if ya murdered a person who beat ya dad up and you got away with it as nobody cared

then a neighbor falls down the stairs and breaks his neck and you are being charged with manslaughter would you take it like a man

speeding at 135 on a empty motorway that ive paied my 3 quid to use aint the same as doing it in a school playground aswell

and 90 on a motorway is the norm too, i should know as im in the inside lane being overtaken at the time

and buslanes where there are no busses are congestion causers, i help to relive congestion just like mr livingstone does, just i dont charge you extra cash for it

live in central london where every road is 2 lanes and 1 of em is a fooking empty bus lane they start out by being 7 to 10am and 4 to 7pm then they change to AT ANY TIME, why, its still the same fooking road, soo many people hhere are scared to use em incase they get a fine when they should be using em to relive the congestion

and buses undertake me all the fooking time and then pull straight out of buss stops and also fooking overtake busses using my fooking lane cause me delays

and all to get a poor 16 year old single mum to the post office

why cant we pay 5 quid a day to use bus lanes, theres a congestion killer

theres talk about allowing motorcycleists but there worryed about normal cyclists saftey if they did due to there size ( like a fooking hooge red bus aint gonna knock em down or force em on the pavement to overtake )

sorry but i hate bus lanes and what i done wasnt on that road making me inocent !!!!!!

would you sign a speeding ticket in scotland when it was in wales

Ginge !

im not gonna go to court and my opening statment

" im inocent of this offence, the only dangerous driving i do is driving on the pavement to scare tree huggers or when go sideways in my cossie but ive never done that on this road you honor"

i was thinking of another opening statment like

"NOT FOOKING GUILTY"