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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Nice one Dave
Get ready for a bit more lag than your used to though!
Did you video Harvey and Ahmed in action as i did and have every second of my 518 engine getting mapped on the dyno
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Cool as fook - definitely gonna be one of the best Escort Cossies out there as a complete package when you get the diffs and box
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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nice one chav
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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Nice one Dave, thats a beauty curve well chuffed for you
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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proper job
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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So my 438bhp / 375lb ft guess wasn't far off . Not that I'm sad or anything and know what power an engine will make with certain hardware .

I can't wait to see thw whole car finished off, will be awesome (for pulling 14 year olds, as that is the only use it will see ) .
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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what ecu dave?

the torque curve is mega i have to say, has that been limmited to that somehow to save the gearbox from spitting its dummy out?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Standard Escort Cosworth ECU with Pectel board etc....
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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impressive,

but has the torque been mapped flat like that on prupose to limit it, or is that just how it is anyway and is just tree stump pulling flat hard accelleration allthe way up ?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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proper result as expected
going by the graph that should be very nice on the road Dave(and so little boost)
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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well dome m8
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Will make a lovely and very fast road car well it will be until the Gearbox blows itself to bits
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Dave,
It is the nature of this turbo to produce the torque curve like this. A standard T3/4 is much more agressive in the way it comes in with a bang (normally 400lb ft at 3500rpm). However, not only is this horribly agressive and a killer for gearboxes in a 4x4, the standard T3/4 then tails off a lot more rapidly. This custom turbo, although it comes in less agressively (due to being bigger), it can hold onto the torque / power better. This allows the boost curve to be mapped nicely to give a lovely flat torque curve that will make it feel awesome in the car and make it feel like the power is still there all the way to the limiter, where on a normal T3/4 car, you get a huge mid-range wallop, followed by the feeling the power is tailing off at the top end.

As a comparison, so you can see what I mean, here is a power-plot for a standard T3/4.



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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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Excellent result Dave
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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wicked result.. should make a nice drivable road car
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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ah see said the blind man!

cheers mike, so next question, which i think i know the answer to, you would not be able to to simply whack one of these ona t34 equipped car ans the boost/rpm point would not match up for the map and cause conditions for maximum smoke?

so it would have to be live mapped to get it to work properly...

so what turbo is it exactly,how much and where from ?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Daves car has been specced completely around the turbo and this is how you SHOULD do a car. So everything has been optimised for this turbo - cams and timing, head etc.

Speak to Harvey about the turbo, as he developed it on the engine dyno - 01733 576 614 / www.specialistcarservices.co.uk
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Also, on the T35 engine (dyno plot above) look at the boost you have to run (to get "similar" power to Dave's T38)........The T35 needs 35 LBS/PSI
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Dave,
that's well cool, luve that torque curve.
Well done mate & big up Harvey & Ahmed.

thanks,
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Wel done mate!!
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Great news there Dave.


Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird



How comes the boost spikes so high around 3500 rpm then drops right back down to just 24??

Is that the caracteristics of a T34 of something to do with weak actuator, poor boost control??
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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As I mentioned in my post , it is the characteristics of the turbo. The engine is actually more efficient than the turbo is at that rpm and is consuming more air than the turbo can give and so the boost tails off. The wastegate is actually fully closed from around 4-4.5k onwards.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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brilliant result mate
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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am i reading this wrong
oil presure 35 psi at 7000
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Nice one Dave, well done
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Nice one Dave

Mike - Interesting reading cheers
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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zvhturbo, the boost spikes like that because its mapped to do that.

Would be interesting to see figures from a t34 running moderate boost so we could get an even more accurate comparison.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Congratulations Dave, awesome result m8, will be a proper weapon m8

Get Damo's sorted then you to can go at it again
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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SPADGE,

I got a few bits of footage mate... i wasnt sad enough to set a video camera up in the dyno cell though

Mike Rainbird, you absolute lord but yes you were very close.. me and damo still reckon you grabbed the info from Harvey though

Dave Henshall,

Its a P8 mate, with A pectel board running the WHOLE show! amazing what it can do! Also a requst was to keep torque slightly lower to preserve the rest of the car

cheers all for the comments... i cant wait to get it in the car and then get it on the road

anyone selling a quaife big tooth 4x4 box???
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Thats an awesome torque curve nice and flat should be excllent on the road
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Dave,
No, I just have mates that have had this turbo as well , so I knew what to expect .
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Nice one dave now you can scare the pants of girlys in your car and not just with your pink shirts
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
am i reading this wrong
oil presure 35 psi at 7000
ditto the

mine is 60+ like daves
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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the whole oil pressure column appeasr to be the wrong way round, ie, high pressure low down then low pressure when revving...
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Flat torque curve from 3500-6500, loving that

Seems to be running a little lean though, amazed its happy at those sort of AFR, would have expected it to be very low 12s not mid-high!
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Nice One Dave!
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