Fao Doug Stirling
15-06-2005, 08:47 AM
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Its got the engine, its got the turbo, its got the gearbox and diffs.
Just needs a driver with a lot less inteligence/mechanical-sympathy now and it could be competitive
go on doug, have a labotomy and enter, or lend your car to me
Just needs a driver with a lot less inteligence/mechanical-sympathy now and it could be competitive
go on doug, have a labotomy and enter, or lend your car to me
15-06-2005, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Its got the engine, its got the turbo, its got the gearbox and diffs.
Just needs a driver with a lot less inteligence/mechanical-sympathy now and it could be competitive
go on doug, have a labotomy and enter, or lend your car to me
Just needs a driver with a lot less inteligence/mechanical-sympathy now and it could be competitive
go on doug, have a labotomy and enter, or lend your car to me
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15-06-2005, 09:17 AM
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Thread was started as a joke..........please believe me when I say that.I'm actually giving this some serious thought now, engine WAS going to be fitted into the car by Brom this weekend, then 500-600 running in miles followed by live mapping by Karl.......
BUT, if I can get the engine Dyno'd next week (at Simon Norris's) and then final live map by Karl I will be up for Brunters pre-qualifing......(of course it may not qualify
)......EEEEK.......NEVER thought that I would ever dare put my own car through such torture and abuse
15-06-2005, 09:22 AM
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I'll add you to the list with a proviso that the car is ready 
. I will also be asking Simon / Brom / Karl to ensure you haven't slipped them a sly Ł50 to ensure that it is delayed for a week or so, so that you don't now look like the colour of your car above 
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. I will also be asking Simon / Brom / Karl to ensure you haven't slipped them a sly Ł50 to ensure that it is delayed for a week or so, so that you don't now look like the colour of your car above .
15-06-2005, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'll add you to the list with a proviso that the car is ready . I will also be asking Simon / Brom / Karl to ensure you haven't slipped them a sly Ł50 to ensure that it is delayed for a week or so, so that you don't now look like the colour of your car above .
. I will also be asking Simon / Brom / Karl to ensure you haven't slipped them a sly Ł50 to ensure that it is delayed for a week or so, so that you don't now look like the colour of your car above .
15-06-2005, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Best let Sean, as I don't want to be responsible for any possible breakages
Just thinking, during qualifieng and the actual TOTB event, how much time is spent on WOT in total ????? We talking "a few seconds".....or more like a minute + ?????
15-06-2005, 09:53 AM
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depends how long it takes ya to get to your top speed douglas!
1/4mile wise your on WOT for 12sec or less i would of though!
& handling will b short burst of throttle!
1/4mile wise your on WOT for 12sec or less i would of though!
& handling will b short burst of throttle!
15-06-2005, 10:01 AM
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OK, thanks for answers Chip and Lewis......
Next question:
As availability of the Norris Designs in question for next week, just how important is the engine dyno session.....?
Would a really extensive live map set up by Karl (instead of the engine dyno) actually be as good/safe??????
Next question:
As availability of the Norris Designs in question for next week, just how important is the engine dyno session.....?
Would a really extensive live map set up by Karl (instead of the engine dyno) actually be as good/safe??????
15-06-2005, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
OK, thanks for answers Chip and Lewis......
Next question:
As availability of the Norris Designs in question for next week, just how important is the engine dyno session.....?
Would a really extensive live map set up by Karl (instead of the engine dyno) actually be as good/safe??????
Next question:
As availability of the Norris Designs in question for next week, just how important is the engine dyno session.....?
Would a really extensive live map set up by Karl (instead of the engine dyno) actually be as good/safe??????
And TBH mapping for such an event (the qualifying) is easy as you only really need to sort it out on WOT.
Obviously for the actual event where you have the handling course etc its a sligthy different issue, but for the event on the 28th, you just need WOT to work.
15-06-2005, 10:03 AM
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I'd sooner have a live map than a dyno session!(imo)
espically if the live map was with some1 like Kalos von power maker!
Dyno is good for power figures! live map is good for road use!
espically if the live map was with some1 like Kalos von power maker!
Dyno is good for power figures!
live map is good for road use!
15-06-2005, 10:09 AM
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I think so yes Doug, if you were trying some mad new parts or unknown spec then I would say deffo needs a Dyno. But there is nothing to mental on there so should be fine
15-06-2005, 10:09 AM
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OK, those are the answers I wanted to hear.............
But I know that Mike R and Simon (SECS) take a different view - their view that an engine dyno session is absolutelly CRUTIAL.........and of course anybody that owns/runs an engine dyno facility would say the same too.........
I'm answering my own question really I know......but I just want to know that if the Dyno is not available (next week) then the engine will still be "safe" for Brunters/TOTB.
But I know that Mike R and Simon (SECS) take a different view - their view that an engine dyno session is absolutelly CRUTIAL.........and of course anybody that owns/runs an engine dyno facility would say the same too.........
I'm answering my own question really I know......but I just want to know that if the Dyno is not available (next week) then the engine will still be "safe" for Brunters/TOTB.
15-06-2005, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
I think so yes Doug, if you were trying some mad new parts or unknown spec then I would say deffo needs a Dyno. But there is nothing to mental on there so should be fine
15-06-2005, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Doug,
It will ONLY be safe, if it has been mapped in the exact same way it will get driven at Brunters. So ipso-facto, it HAS to be mapped at Brunters OR somewhere else that you will be hitting 7.5+k in fifth...
It will ONLY be safe, if it has been mapped in the exact same way it will get driven at Brunters. So ipso-facto, it HAS to be mapped at Brunters OR somewhere else that you will be hitting 7.5+k in fifth...
15-06-2005, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Not in 5th at brunters it wont, which is what Mike said, i belive this is yours doug 
That used to max out at Castle Combe at 144 (ish)...but was 6.8 k rev limit
15-06-2005, 10:37 AM
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Please point out where I say he WON'T hit these revs at Brunters, as he SHOULD hit 7.5k+ in fifth on the standard gearing and 225/40x18 tyres with 550-ish bhp, hence why I mentioned that you either need to go to Brunters or somewhere else that would see this speed to carry out the mapping. Martin achieved 187mph on his Quaife gearkit with only 517bhp and this requires a smidge over 7500 rpm to achieve .
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15-06-2005, 10:41 AM
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Mike you said he needs to map it to 7500rpm in fifth
he said it would go considerabley higher than that and you were wrong
i said it wouldnt go considerabley higher than that at brunters s you werent wrong.
anyway who fucking cares, lol
he said it would go considerabley higher than that and you were wrong
i said it wouldnt go considerabley higher than that at brunters s you werent wrong.
anyway who fucking cares, lol