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Old 17-06-2004, 06:43 PM
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Default Stage 3 people, what diffs are you running??????????????

Well not stage 3 really, about 360/370bhp

What diffs are you running and how hard to you launch your cars??????????
Old 17-06-2004, 06:45 PM
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boggo, and pop
Old 17-06-2004, 06:50 PM
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Old 17-06-2004, 06:52 PM
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When my car was stg 3 i got through 9 diffs until i bought a quaife. Planet gears everytime broke Id be very carefull i have now learnt my lesson with launching
Old 17-06-2004, 06:58 PM
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How much am i looking at for a quaife/Gripper diff????????????????
Old 17-06-2004, 07:01 PM
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I going to run std until next year!!! but i wont be launching her until i get it sorted lol!
Old 17-06-2004, 07:03 PM
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I paid 850 for the quaife lsd plus 150 bearings and 300 to build but now i broke it as i put the standard crown wheel and pinon in so i need another crown etc

it was the tits when it was working made a lot of diffference
Old 17-06-2004, 07:36 PM
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theres always the jag option from Zoo
Old 17-06-2004, 07:49 PM
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Will a stanard one last if you dont launch it then?
Old 17-06-2004, 07:55 PM
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might get away with it if you keep a standard clutch keep away from paddles !

i blew one up at 165mph once
Old 17-06-2004, 08:32 PM
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Thats me fucked then as i have just fitted an Alcon 6 Paddle clutch
Old 17-06-2004, 08:36 PM
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think ya self lucky you havent got a 4x4 like me
Old 17-06-2004, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
think ya self lucky you havent got a 4x4 like me
Its nothing to do with being lucky

I have a MANS car
Old 17-06-2004, 08:40 PM
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yeah right
Old 17-06-2004, 08:55 PM
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Old 17-06-2004, 09:02 PM
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On me 4th diff at the mo Tiff every time i launch it......it pops

So now i don't launch it and its been pretty good so far,i do abuse it in first still tho but only when moving already
Old 17-06-2004, 09:09 PM
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Its down to grip and luck

I was running 2bar on a T34, greys, antilag, and a few paddle clutches, on my 3dr and never blew a diff in 3years and i abused it like fuck, got thru clutches n tyres but never a diff.

I presume my diff was boggo so i guess it was down to having no traction so no stress on the diff, lol.

Or lots of luck
Old 17-06-2004, 09:13 PM
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use standard in mine , re built it last year , only cost £60 to replace the worn parts from fords
mine gets launched quite often and the power comes in it comes in hard but still no probs . change the fluid every 2 oil changes and check inside when i get the chance to use ramps
Old 17-06-2004, 09:27 PM
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go for the plated 100% every time , you can get a gripper for under £1k with shot peened internals , there is someone local to you that does em!!
Old 17-06-2004, 09:30 PM
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heard a mustang diff is pretty strong, take 700 bhp!

just what ive been told though, worth some research.
Old 17-06-2004, 09:31 PM
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There a dude around here who's modified our XR Rears and has put in a 8.8 IRC suspension, It's supposed to be the mutts nuts, I'm saving up to see how good it really is! My tuner put a BMW rear on his 538whp XR and hasn't broken it yet!
Old 17-06-2004, 09:36 PM
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As long as your not launching it every day.

Should be o.k if it's just at shows etc.....

Never had probs with my car,diff wise anyway, and i have done quite a few good launchs.



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Old 17-06-2004, 09:47 PM
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Intrestin this diff question. I have a lot of problem launchin my 2wd saph. Its got a paddle dunno wat make, and a T34 on greens. My mates are always sayin "u should launch it harder" but the problem is no matter how hard u engage the clutch not enough revs and uv got to wait for the turbo to climb on boost, and too much boost and it will wheelspin. Im sure a 2wd cos with a T3 and a standard clutch would launch better and be quicker off the line. Previous owner blew two diffs up i now have wat i understand to be a group n diff, holding up well(touch wood).
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Launching is a skill that takes time to learn as for comparing 2wd with 4x4 theres no contest. Nearly all of my diffs have blown when launching and one wheel has lost grip thats how i blew a crown wheel and pinon into a million peices
Old 17-06-2004, 11:06 PM
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std diff

i dont ever launch it
Old 17-06-2004, 11:17 PM
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my diff is standard but with 400 bhp coming soon i dont think it will last long
Old 17-06-2004, 11:23 PM
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One proper launch! I think im getting the nack of blowing diffs up so if you want it tested send um this way
Old 17-06-2004, 11:27 PM
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i think ill test mine - that way im the only one to blame
Old 17-06-2004, 11:34 PM
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I've just got a gripper now and it's cool but a little difficult to drive.

but before when i was using the standard diff i only blew 2 and i launch it at every chance i get also i side step it in second when rolling to really get going. they only ever blew (for me) on the gearchange into 2nd when it was tramping in first and then hooking up in 2nd.

But i think this was due to a knackered diff mount causing the diff to wind up and tramp like fook, cos i changed it and it don't do it now - but i've changed the diff now.

HTH

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Old 17-06-2004, 11:54 PM
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haven't done many full on launches.


but have done a few

loads on 2mph dip clutch in second side step and woo hoo, black lines. in fact done that to mnay times


have only blown 1 diff and that was at pod on stage 1
Old 18-06-2004, 03:25 AM
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Antilagnos8inj2wd,
when launching and one wheel has lost grip thats how i blew a crown wheel and pinon into a million peices

yep thats the ATB for ya !!
Old 18-06-2004, 05:26 AM
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i have just had my diff replaced with another std one but also am looking to replace if goes again with uprated one where do you get the uprated ones from.
my diff popped while still running the engine in not even running full bhp
Old 18-06-2004, 06:16 AM
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wots all this sidestepping the clutch malarky shouldnt they all spin in 2nd under normall acceleration
Old 18-06-2004, 06:33 AM
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Fastmanual you know the 8.8 independant set up is the way forward this is something I been working on just lately
Old 18-06-2004, 06:37 AM
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Just standard at the moment on stage 3, obviously not trying hard enough, clutches don't seem to last long tho and i did a box not long ago tho.
Old 18-06-2004, 07:41 AM
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With 385bhp, I never had any trouble with diffs, but the second I went to 420bhp, I got through one every three months , until after a year and a half I gave up and bought a Quaife. I never had any problem with that, as I used a very good CWP and had it properly dialed in.

We supply the Quaife's fully fitted in your diff casing - breakdown: £805 (Quaife ATB) and £250 for fitting (including all new bearings, machining of casing to accept diff and dialling or "clocking" in as per manufacturer's tolerances). Obviously we cannot gaurantee the condition of the CWP that you provide, but will advise you of it's condition.
Old 18-06-2004, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Will a stanard one last if you dont launch it then?
yes

mines done 2000 miles of 2+bar with an alcon 6 paddle, last 1000 is with approx 380 lb/ft by 3500rpm

have launched it a few times (ask tim about them ones we did on the industrial estate LOL )

tiff, you need to listen to marco with regard to what diff, you know what he's like and his aint broken i aint saying here as i'll be wrong i think markk (another one who knows his transmission shit) is on the right lines with "thats the ATB for ya !!"
Old 18-06-2004, 08:03 AM
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Matt,
Yep that is definitely the problem with Quaife if you put in an old, worn CWP and / or don't have it correctly dialled in.

Out of interest, what CWP does the Gripper use?
Old 18-06-2004, 08:26 AM
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all this talk of diffs popping on stg 3 is seriously putting me off !

at least on stg 1 power my car will still be reliable i spose
Old 18-06-2004, 08:33 AM
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tiff just buy a platted diff you tight arse


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