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Old 18-06-2004, 08:35 AM
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Slowpoke,
It is mainly to do with the fact that the diffs have already done 100+k, so this is why they break. Mind you, if you're handy with the spanners, a diff can be repaired for next to nothing, as the planet gears used to be £7 each - normally all three would let go (if they're still available from Ford).
Old 18-06-2004, 08:38 AM
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the only prob with me is unlike most guys (and girls) on here my saph isnt just my toy etc so could do with keeping the reliability of it

but i spose in the same sentance i should write dont bloody bot it and drive it like a tit then

thanks mike wish i could afford to do a stg 3 before the britball

any traders want to sponsor me
Old 18-06-2004, 10:40 AM
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Mike Rainbird,
Yep that is definitely the problem with Quaife if you put in an old, worn CWP and / or don't have it correctly dialled in.

mike the problem with the quaife is if you loose grip on one wheel the your fooked !! if it 'goes light' the all ya power goes to that wheel ,and iff you keep it on not knowing this (cause your poss a goon !! ) then it will just speed up so fast with the torque of a decent motor and fook the cwp !!

in 4wd its a diff kettle of fish , the trasmission has another few corners to try and distribute the drive !!


soem like the quaife some dont - i personally dont having used both ATB and PLATED i know what my choice would be !
Old 18-06-2004, 10:53 AM
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Mark,
I think you would have to be a total loon to get a road / track Cosworth to lift a rear wheel , I NEVER had this problem and I loved the way you could steer the car on the throttle. At ND a few years ago at Dono, the 3rd corner (not very sharp one just before down hill section to Craner) after the start finish straight, I could leave two black lines all the way round it with slicks on EVERY lap .

Obviously rallying / loose stuff is a totally different kettle of tuna. I certainly prefered the characteristics of the ATB to the standard item.
Old 18-06-2004, 10:58 AM
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I think you would have to be a total loon to get a road / track Cosworth to lift a rear wheel

u need to use the kerbs m8 !!! thats all !!


i agree with the fact that yes they work very well under full straight line equal road surface under each wheel scenario , simply because it has no choice as to where to put the drive , it either transmits or breaks (unusual for the latter - but knowing quaife products not impossible ) and if the grip is of an equal amount ( or within a small tolerance cant remeber what the figure is tho ) then it has to distribute equally !!
Old 18-06-2004, 11:22 AM
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Yours is a race car, I cringe at the thought of curb hopping my own car !
Old 18-06-2004, 11:43 AM
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Mike Rainbird,
I cringe at the thought of curb hopping my own car !

bloody hell mike i thought that all thes people who take the piss out of your driving where joking !!!
Old 18-06-2004, 11:47 AM
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The only place I do that is at the Nurburgring, as there is no weight on the car when doing so, and I am most certainly not on the power at the point of curb-hopping. You are obviously a driving god .
Old 18-06-2004, 11:50 AM
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Mike Rainbird,
You are obviously a driving god
i wish m8 i'd be doing it for a living if i was
Old 18-06-2004, 11:58 AM
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I've never broken a diff EVER!

I've done 200+ launches at the pod, I've done 10 track days on it (two on slicks), and I've driven like an animal.

However, it is clearly only a matter of time, so I am having the ZOO/Jag diff conversion...................
Old 18-06-2004, 12:46 PM
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yes rich but it was fooked when taken apart

youve half broken one
Old 18-06-2004, 01:03 PM
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Not at all Matt - just needs a bit of TLC
Old 18-06-2004, 01:14 PM
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Did you not forget that I am running a standard diff on mine and running considerably more power than you are looking at..... diff is fine and has done 2k on the new engine. I simple will not and do not launch it as I realise the consequences if I do. Derek also ran a standard diff until he did TOTB and blew it to pieces.... again his was fine until he started doing launches. They are pretty much hardy units as long as you don't want to launch...... horses for courses.
Old 18-06-2004, 01:19 PM
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Shaun,
You don't count, as everytime you go above 4500rpm and the boost starts to come in hard, you squeal like Tony when HE has to part with some money - and take your foot off the throttle . Therefore, your rear diff has never seen anymore than about 250bhp .
Old 18-06-2004, 04:19 PM
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Shaun

I thought you ran a standard diff
Like you said, dont launch and jobs a goodun
Old 18-06-2004, 04:22 PM
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So to sum this post up mark, the std diff lasts ok if you dont launch them which is exactly what I told you when you popped round on Wednesday. PMSL
Old 18-06-2004, 04:54 PM
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Mike,
Up your arse...... no forget that as you will only enjoy and relish the act!!!

Karl,
You should of said.....

"Mark, let me drive your car for 1000 miles without launching, then let me drive it for 1/4 a mile with a single launch. Now push the car back down the drag strip and pick up your CPW on the way back to save on shoe leather!! Tell me what your conclusion is!"

Old 18-06-2004, 05:24 PM
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i had a standard diff in my 3door with 500bhp.......never broke it, prob cos i took the precaution of running on the standard wheels and tyres. .... smokes the tyres at 100mph in 4th
Old 18-06-2004, 05:40 PM
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I simple..... will not and do not launch it as I realise the consequences if I do
We know that much....
Old 18-06-2004, 06:04 PM
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Bill,

Please join the line for "Up your arse" else Mike will get jealous!!!!

Old 18-06-2004, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl
So to sum this post up mark, the std diff lasts ok if you dont launch them which is exactly what I told you when you popped round on Wednesday. PMSL
Thats totally right Karl
Old 19-06-2004, 03:11 AM
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Never had a problem with my Gripper diff, has done loads of launching in my car (400ish bhp) in 4000+miles also used in A1 Rally Sport focus launching on drag tyres (500+nos bhp)

It has been inspected at Bernies and he said its fine.
HTH

Speak to Coventry Automotive for the Gripper
Old 19-06-2004, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gav Diamond
Speak to Coventry Automotive for the Gripper
Cheers for that gav
Old 19-06-2004, 09:00 AM
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and let me know how much the gripper is tiff
Old 19-06-2004, 09:25 AM
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If you speak to the right people Tiff (and I am sure you must know some considering you come from that area), you can get a very good price on them as well!
Old 19-06-2004, 09:26 AM
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I never had a diff problem on my old saph either!
Old 19-06-2004, 01:11 PM
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Tiff=If your asking anyway.See if there a chance of a group buy as a few seem interested.I would if price is right.See how many they would need to get a tidy discount.
Old 19-06-2004, 01:18 PM
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standard diff at the mo.
Old 19-06-2004, 02:10 PM
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the gripper is one of if not the best now available diff for the cosworth , excellant traction capabilities whether the surface is rough or smooth , even when in the damp the diff is very good , the only downside to a plated diff is that their a little noisier in operation than the shitty viscous unit , but certainly not unbearable like some close cut crownwheel unit , just a few small clunks here and their ! ive a 3 diff gripper units from Tom , hes a very good man and knows his diffs, i wouldnt recommend any other unit (apart from ZF if ya can find one ) , tom will advise you on the req ramp angles and preload for your application , tbh best to get someone whos good with transmission to fit the unit cause theres a little bit of mods here and there to fitting it !!


hth


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