how do you make a flamer kit?
16-06-2004, 09:41 AM
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how do you make a flamer kit?
its the main boxy thing i need to know about, whats in it etc??
prolly just a coil and a resistor...
i think ive got a coil lying around so just need to nail a sparkplug in the back box and get a ht lead, wiring is no probs either.
its just this control box.... what is it??
i aint gonna spend £100 on summut i can make for peanuts...
its soon gonna be running throttle bodies and be decatted.
also where should i mount the sparker too??
cheers peeps.
prolly just a coil and a resistor...
i think ive got a coil lying around so just need to nail a sparkplug in the back box and get a ht lead, wiring is no probs either.
its just this control box.... what is it??
i aint gonna spend £100 on summut i can make for peanuts...
its soon gonna be running throttle bodies and be decatted.
also where should i mount the sparker too??
cheers peeps.
16-06-2004, 09:49 AM
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easiest way is to just cash out the 40 ish quid for a "flamer kit black box o tricks" from the likes of SCC or Mike R...
this is basically justa 555 timer that will make the spark VERY rapid... you can DIY it with a button you have to keep pressing, but you'll wear your finger out very very quickly
this is basically justa 555 timer that will make the spark VERY rapid... you can DIY it with a button you have to keep pressing, but you'll wear your finger out very very quickly
16-06-2004, 10:00 AM
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one of my mates wired one up in his maestro turbo using an indicator relay, pmsl .
it only sparks at the speed of indicator but it flames foooken well
.it only sparks at the speed of indicator but it flames foooken well
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16-06-2004, 10:24 AM
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With an ONC, you should know this.. tut.. 
Easiest way, is wire up a N/O relay in a closed loop.. Wire the power to it via the N/C and the output will oscillate.. Well actually it'll probably BUZZ.....
So power the 'spark' coil via the N/O, so when power is applied to the relay, the coil energises, but power the relay via the N/C contact.. so at the same time as the coil gets power, the relay looses it, and re-opens the 'spark' coil contact, causing the magnetic field to collapse, which will spark your plug... As soon as the contacts reach N/C again, the relay jumps back to close N/O, and the loop continues..
If you use a naff relay, you might burn the contacts closed (weld em together) so use a better one.. Using a 555 would be a better long term option, but this is by far the easiest...
HTH's
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Easiest way, is wire up a N/O relay in a closed loop.. Wire the power to it via the N/C and the output will oscillate.. Well actually it'll probably BUZZ.....
So power the 'spark' coil via the N/O, so when power is applied to the relay, the coil energises, but power the relay via the N/C contact.. so at the same time as the coil gets power, the relay looses it, and re-opens the 'spark' coil contact, causing the magnetic field to collapse, which will spark your plug... As soon as the contacts reach N/C again, the relay jumps back to close N/O, and the loop continues..
If you use a naff relay, you might burn the contacts closed (weld em together) so use a better one.. Using a 555 would be a better long term option, but this is by far the easiest...
HTH's
Luv
Chrisie...
16-06-2004, 10:49 AM
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Try these...
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/pulsetimer.html
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/clock1.htm
Don't worry about forgettin it.. I've done an ONC and HNC and a 4yr electronic apprenticeship with the MOD, seeing all sorts of ace things, BUT..... I still can't wire a transistor up without blowing it up... I much prefer logic..
And beside, I don't need to know ohm's law or 'DY' mathmatical expressions to drive a truck...
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http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/pulsetimer.html
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/555/555.html
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/clock1.htm
Don't worry about forgettin it.. I've done an ONC and HNC and a 4yr electronic apprenticeship with the MOD, seeing all sorts of ace things, BUT..... I still can't wire a transistor up without blowing it up...
I much prefer logic.. And beside, I don't need to know ohm's law or 'DY' mathmatical expressions to drive a truck...
Luv
Chrisie...
16-06-2004, 10:52 AM
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1. Take a wire from each of the coil terminals under the bonnet.
2. Run this wire the full length of the car with no protection at all.
3. Connect to another coil in the boot.
4. Run the plug lead and plug.
5. Start engine and wonder why the car runs like a bag of shit.
That was yesterday's hilarity
2. Run this wire the full length of the car with no protection at all.
3. Connect to another coil in the boot.
4. Run the plug lead and plug.
5. Start engine and wonder why the car runs like a bag of shit.
That was yesterday's hilarity
16-06-2004, 11:17 AM
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You do.
I was referring to whether there's any unburnt fuel with your set up?
Although I have just re-read your post and see that you'll be going throttle bodies and decat..............
I was referring to whether there's any unburnt fuel with your set up?
Although I have just re-read your post and see that you'll be going throttle bodies and decat..............
16-06-2004, 11:18 AM
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You do.
I was referring to whether there's any unburnt fuel with your set up?
Although I have just re-read your post and see that you'll be going throttle bodies and decat..............
I was referring to whether there's any unburnt fuel with your set up?
Although I have just re-read your post and see that you'll be going throttle bodies and decat..............
16-06-2004, 07:28 PM
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pop down to your local maplin shop (www.maplin.co.uk) and pick up one of them little timer circuits for about £3. comes with the 555 chip and all the gubbins needed.
solder it up in about 5 mins, whack it all in the boot, drill a few holes piss fart about with the spark plug and bobs your mothers brother.
sorted.
considered one for mine, itd look sweet as ive got a side exit!!
solder it up in about 5 mins, whack it all in the boot, drill a few holes piss fart about with the spark plug and bobs your mothers brother.
sorted.
considered one for mine, itd look sweet as ive got a side exit!!
16-06-2004, 07:43 PM
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well if you require the box of tricks, i've got one i built (fucking strong spark) and i can sell the box of tricks for £25 a piece.
if anyone wants one of these, e-mail me on the address in my siggy.
if anyone wants one of these, e-mail me on the address in my siggy.
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Set fire to your farts! Much more entertaining and the girls will think you're cool!
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