Alvyn

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[quote="Rich_w"]So you lot would be happy to take an ambulance driver or a fireman away from his job, make him unemployed, put him in financial strife just because he was caught speeding on a fairly empty piece of motorway?

my m8 who drives for a living got banned albit for just 3mths and fined for doing 136mph on his R1 going up the motorway DIDN'T SEEM TO BOTHER THE COURT IN HIS CASE THAT HIS FAMILY WOULD HAVE NO MONEY COMING IN IN FACT THEY SAID "YOU DRIVE SO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER"

ps regarding calling ALL police as wnakers is WRONG but there are alot that ARE and THEY give the good ones a bad name

MadMac

The ambulance driver lost his Job IIRC and his licence.

phil4x4saph

Rich W.

Can you give us another situation where an officer of the law could blatently disregard the law and be allowed to go unpunished.

Maybe he they could shoplift, to er.. test the security in the shop?
Perhaps they could drink drive to test the breathalyser
Maybe they could kill someone, just to get into the mindset of a murderer?

Of course this is all utter nonsense and would not be tollerated, so why should this?

By your logic, police marksmen should be alowed to shoot at whatever they like cos they're less likely to miss!

The whole affair is a fantastic own goal for the anti-speeding lobby and makes a complete farce of the "speed kills" bollocks that is regularly spouted.

He should be severely delt with, as should I if I were to be caught doing something so stupid.

Rich_w

It was dropped.

Oranoco

As Mad Mac said the ambulance driver was banned.

Although I beleive an appeal lead to this being overturned. In that instance it shouldn't have even gone to court in the first place. And I don't feel this officers should have IF he'd been on a shout

As Phil said we have the speedkills bullshit rammed down our throats at every oppertunity and the officer walking away scott free only underlines how bad the bullshit really is

Westy

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Markb_s1,

chill

we are all allowed opinions are we not?



you must be one

MWF

So basically what some of you guys are saying trained high speed persuit drivers shouldn't be allowed to speed on empty motorways when testing cars because we can't?

So by that logic armed police shouldn't be allowed to carry guns around because we can't?

tonyk

Rich w, So let me get this straight, an "OFF DUTY" policeman shouldnt be banned for speeding because he fights crime while "ON DUTY", but a bricklayer should be banned for the same crime cause he only builds houses?

It shouldnt matter who you are, we all abide by the same rules. If an ambulance driver or fireman or copper is speeding while on duty and in an emergency then there should be no issue, but off duty they are just regular members of the community and should be treated as none.

It means little to me if there families lose there house cause they commited a crime, perhaps they should have thought of there actions before they decided to exceed to a speed that can result in a ban or imprisionment. Why should they not practice and hone there abilities while on official "work" business.

MWF

I though although the copper was off duty he was testing the car? Surely people can't expect them to wait untill they are on call before they drive the cars fast for the first time?

Rhys

No he should have notified the police thats hes testing it and should have dont it with a marked car following imo. Testing a car when he of duty yeah right more like just want a play in it

Alvyn

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NOT at all If he was testing how comes NO one else knew about it and I'm sure there is/are better places to DO it

MWF

He should have notified himself he was testing it???

MWF

But surely he's the person who decides what is and isn't safe? He's the one trained to do it, he makes he call?

tonyk

I think you know that wasnt what he meant. The police has set guides/procedures they must follow, ie pace manual as one. The judge said that he shouldnt have been doing this unless he notified his HQ.

phil4x4saph

Yes thats exactly what I am saying. Because ITS THE LAW! And whatever they believe, police officers are not exempt from the law.

As for armed officers, I believe they are only allowed to carry them in public whilst dealing with a potentially armed situation. Like Police drivers can break the speed limit during a pursuit or on route to an emergency situation. Otherwise guns are limited to training camps and shooting ranges.

160mph on a public road has been deemed to be acceptable!?

MWF

Yeah that does make sense. I think him and his HQ should be given a stern slap for not doing things by the book, I don't think he should loose his job over it though given the circumstances.

Maybe he didn't notify the HQ for fear they'd reply with "Bollocks are you doing 160mph in a Vectra! Lets see you do it at Brunters!"

Oranoco

pmsl @ MWF

Now a precident has been set I'm off for a top speed run up the A1

Spax

Fooking Bollocks if u ask me, Should have banned him

Rhys

Im going to print out the article which said he got of scot free and have it in the cossie. Then when im doing 160+ i can just say im testing out the new turbo to make sure it can handle 30psi in 5th at 7k rpm

phil4x4saph

In Foxton, near Cambridge a few years ago, some police drivers who were on a "training exercise" came round a blind bend at 100+, into stationary traffic at temporary roadworks.
A nurse sitting at the lights in a Citroen AX was killed.

The instructor lost his job IIRC, but basically got away with it!

Double standards are nothing new!

righthooker

you have got to be taking the piss mate ,the law is the law and he was not on an emergency call,he was FUCKING ABOUT that simple
Its a point of principle where dose it end,give all police peeps a free licence to do what they want ,Judge Dread style .
Shape up man

MWF

I chased a police car once, no BS. Chased it for about a mile through A-roads. It was a very wierd situation.

MadMac

At the end of the day he was a police man and should be setting an example for the masses and not abusing his position, which is what this all boils down to.

Phil

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Correct me if I am wrong but was it not at night on quiet roads?

Personally I think he should get away with it.

plynchy

Personally don't give a fuck what someone does for a living. Why does that make their job/income/family support more important than mine???
If i was caught doing this speed,i'd go to jail,lose my job,have a record for life etc. What happened to this twat??? FUCK ALL!!!
Total double standards,this country is SHITE.

Ginge !

i think ya all fucking missing the point


if you enforce a low then you must actually abide and agree with it in all situations !!!!!!

how do you lot feel about a traffic warden sticking his badge number in the car to get free parking when shopping and then 5 other cars being done and towed away

also he got caught doing 160mph, a fellow copper must have repoted him, he must have felt theres a limit and theres taking the piss

160mph off duty theres no fooking excuse, 120 then fine, hes skilled and yeah theres a blind eye as he has more experience, but 160 how many times do traffic coppers drive and hold there car flat out at 160mph in pursuit and what the fuck are they chasing as they dotn chase bikes anymore and get helicopters for saftey reasons

i cant see the reason for it in anyway what so ever

also people who drive for a living will not go on the piss the night before work incase they get caught as its there job they loose

if a ambulace driver was doing 160mph in his vectra to :get to know his car" he would be but fucked quicker than small imagrant childen who got lost in the rainbird mansions grounds


there is no justified reason for the speed in anyway, fook what he does for a living, unless hes on a call or in proper training with saftey crews nearby incase he did lose it then he deserves to get what i would get in that situation, we all speed, when we get caught we have to accept it

when a mate of mine when i was a traffic warden got done for drink driving she wasnt much over the limit and she got a 2 year ban as enforcing a low she should lead by example

did you also know that traffic wardens can not use claws in the law to park illegally, they will win the appeal but will subsqently be sacked for doing whats not fair to the general public who they SERVE !!!!!

im sorry but any copper who drives at 90mph on his day off should not be allowed to nick a guy for doing the same thing , as theres no difference !!!!

its like allowing coppers to mug old ladies on there day off and then not being as harsh

what ya think happens if a coppper commits a real crime on his day off, say he robs a post office , he gets suspended instantly and then when hes convicted he loses his job, even he he gets a 100 hour comunity service wrap

my old man works for the corparation of london and has a job that deals with security, he had to suspend a inocent person who got accused of stealing wheels off another car as hios car was cloned EVEN THOUGH he new he was inocent as he had no choice, thats the rule, had he been convicted he would haev been sacked, that was nothing to do with his jobas he works on a securoty desk but it was a sign for lack of trust and so ya get sacked

i say at 160 he faces it like anyone else , 120 then slap him on the wrist but enfocre points to set a example to other coppers


this just shows why the public have no faith


i know it was a long post but my last thing for ya all to remember

A FELLOW COPPER FELT HIS SPEED WAS SOOO WRONG THAT HE REPOTED HIM !!!!!!!

that says it all for me personally

Steven_RW

Sure they must be reasonably skilled drivers, but it took a traffic cop in a t5 five miles chasing my 1.3 escort estate with 59bhp and he didn't gain a yard till i decided to slow down

Oohh... bet they are all sooo fast

RW

Ginge !

he must have been pushing the car or ya sure he wasnt on his lunch

i flew past a copper and he was facing the other way as i had no plate on em car and i was speeding and he fookign caught me quick time

im clapping as the copper was a proper cop and done his job fairly, i was speeding but he was facing the other way and so told me to slow down, i had no plate and i told him it must have fell off and even though he kenw i was talking bollocks he followed procedure and gave me a vehicle rect form to repair in 14 days

cant say fairer than that imo

Wazzzer

I don't give a fuck whether he is the best driver in the world, the law states that the speed limit was 70 on that stretch of road and he broke it

Are they saying that police are above the law?

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who gets caught speeding, even myself if I get caught.

Lee Reynolds

im with Rich on this. There lots of anti police people on PF that it isnt even worth going into discussion about it TBH!

Rhys

Dont see many Anti Police on this thread? Im not Anti Police im all for them, but when they break the rules the got to be treated the same as any tom dick or harry imo.

Poom

Why didnt he just get sent to a dis-used runway or something to get used to high speed in his car?

I think he should have been banned!

st3v3

im not anti police or anything like it,but this is my opinion on this discussion,

firstly,he didnt just speed on motorways,he has also confessed to speeding on A roads aswell and not just at night.

secondly,IF he was on a shout then fair play i couldnt care less if he did 200mph,thats fine let them get there as fast as they can,it may just be the thug in the street putting the knife in my guts next time and i would appreciate any police man coming to my aid.

thirdly,i dont believe anyone is above the law.

my missus was awarded 3 point last year for doing 32 mph in a 30 zone if she can get done for a measly 2mph over the limit then ill be buggered if i will be happy about this outcome

rant over

cossieracer

what a lying f*cking B*stard and all the assh*oles like the fed rep(hmm watching the bill???) like this idiot cop how refered to him sniggering. Aaaaaah I just wanted to punch his lights out stamp! stamp! stamp! idiot brainless magistrates

MWF

Daryl

I know that its a vectra but what 1 was it? its got to be worth a look at if can do 160. pics ???

Wazzzer

anyone know where I can book up for this police advanced driving so I can get off doing 160mph?













Thought not

Markb_s1

yeah - Hendon.

Markb_s1

Course we are mate

@ must be one.

cfoster

I wonder what would have happened if he had an accident with a law abiding motorist whilst travelling that speed. You can almost guarantee that the citizen will be liable.

Also surely the Police should use test tracks for 'familiarising' themselves with their new cars. I've never seen Jenson Button going flat out up the M1

Its fookin ludicris he has got away with it.