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20-05-2005, 06:29 PM
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FPMSL @ Broomy 
I merely ask a genuine question 
I never mentioned welding quality or the copy parts you make Only the new design items..so fooking get a grip man
I merely ask a genuine question I never mentioned welding quality or the copy parts you make Only the new design items..so fooking get a grip man
20-05-2005, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ImaRacing 700
FPMSL @ Broomy I merely ask a genuine question I never mentioned welding quality or the copy parts you make Only the new design items..so fooking get a grip man
I merely ask a genuine question I never mentioned welding quality or the copy parts you make Only the new design items..so fooking get a grip man they are standard on a cozzy then
no they aint
just another back pedling post once u have read the drivvel u post
20-05-2005, 06:51 PM
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You all need a fooking slap 
I said IF you design your own suspension it could be dangerous as you are not designers.....in the end Broomy actually answered by saying its all copied from pro designs..so i can see the reyland crash wasnt a design fault..Thanks broomy
if you had the common sense to answer as a genuine question in the first place your blood pressure wouldnt be so high 
One day people will actually realise they are just too uptight
I said IF you design your own suspension it could be dangerous as you are not designers.....in the end Broomy actually answered by saying its all copied from pro designs..so i can see the reyland crash wasnt a design fault..Thanks broomy
if you had the common sense to answer as a genuine question in the first place your blood pressure wouldnt be so high One day people will actually realise they are just too uptight
20-05-2005, 07:12 PM
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wtf do you think a wrc back end is something that is jsut made up from fooking bars and no thought gone into it
all you know is , "koni's are cool"
theres that many peeps i know in the motorsport and most are very helpfull infact nearly all of them and Dome being one of them
you stick to your standard beam /arms and rubber bushes and show us the way home on track
do you know what causes understeer on a cossy ??
i'll tell you on my next post and then you will wonder why peeps change things for
wtf do you think a wrc back end is something that is jsut made up from fooking bars and no thought gone into it
all you know is , "koni's are cool"
theres that many peeps i know in the motorsport and most are very helpfull infact nearly all of them and Dome being one of them
you stick to your standard beam /arms and rubber bushes and show us the way home on track
do you know what causes understeer on a cossy ??
i'll tell you on my next post and then you will wonder why peeps change things for
20-05-2005, 07:12 PM
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Brom, I think IMA is getting at a 'liability' point of view. (what with injury lawyers direct etc)
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.
20-05-2005, 07:18 PM
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People are fookin smoking crack tonite as the read a few of my words and come up with 5
If i even had the slightest interest in building a track car then i garantee it would show YOU 2 broomy marco the way home....BUT my car isnt its a road car for my pleasure....and it will be a far superior road experience than any of your bone shakers
Life aint a competition
If i even had the slightest interest in building a track car then i garantee it would show YOU 2 broomy marco the way home....BUT my car isnt its a road car for my pleasure....and it will be a far superior road experience than any of your bone shakers
Life aint a competition
20-05-2005, 07:21 PM
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no coment , the guys a clown , thats why no fooker helps him ,and when they do help him he slags them off
no coment , the guys a clown , thats why no fooker helps him ,and when they do help him he slags them off
Fuck me...you dont know anything about me
EVERYONE is helping me except the ones you slag me off too mentioning no names Remeber one thing "boys" i have in my corner the one of the best tuners on the cossie scene whose cars speak for themselves..and that man is Mark Shead
20-05-2005, 07:27 PM
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[quote="Moose 130"]Brom, I think IMA is getting at a 'liability' point of view. (what with injury lawyers direct etc)
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.[/quote
do you honislty think i wud sell something thats not safe
everything i made is ovakill and yes it does not fail
i beam welding for 16 yrs i think i no how to glue metal together if i dint i wudnt sell it simple as
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.[/quote
do you honislty think i wud sell something thats not safe
everything i made is ovakill and yes it does not fail
i beam welding for 16 yrs i think i no how to glue metal together if i dint i wudnt sell it simple as
20-05-2005, 07:30 PM
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Brom..then why didnt you just answer like that before? As far as i was aware you were a car breaker turned DIY in your shed....now your making major parts You come along way 
...Does your insurance cost alot though?I know down our work its pretty steep for even just working on an engine 
As far as i was aware you were a car breaker turned DIY in your shed....now your making major parts You come along way ...Does your insurance cost alot though?I know down our work its pretty steep for even just working on an engine
20-05-2005, 07:40 PM
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[quote="BROM@ZOO"]
HOLD ON!!!
did you read the bit that says - I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable
No one would or has criticised the quality of your work, every picture I have seen of your welding looks heavy duty, overkill as you say, from the pre ZOO days to the WRC rear end.
Just some people (insurance companies for example) might want to see a qualification.
Hell, I can weld but I'm looking at going to college to get a qualification on paper!
Originally Posted by Moose 130
Brom, I think IMA is getting at a 'liability' point of view. (what with injury lawyers direct etc)
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.[/quote
do you honislty think i wud sell something thats not safe
everything i made is ovakill and yes it does not fail
i beam welding for 16 yrs i think i no how to glue metal together if i dint i wudnt sell it simple as
If you've copied someone elses physics so the geometry is sound, then it's more a question of 'are you qualified to manufacture suspension?'
I don't want to defend him but I think that's the jist of it.
I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable, and if/when I need a rear beam I'll be coming to see you.[/quote
do you honislty think i wud sell something thats not safe
everything i made is ovakill and yes it does not fail
i beam welding for 16 yrs i think i no how to glue metal together if i dint i wudnt sell it simple as
did you read the bit that says - I personally have no problem with your welding, you seem to be very capable
No one would or has criticised the quality of your work, every picture I have seen of your welding looks heavy duty, overkill as you say, from the pre ZOO days to the WRC rear end.
Just some people (insurance companies for example) might want to see a qualification.
Hell, I can weld but I'm looking at going to college to get a qualification on paper!
20-05-2005, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ImaRacing 700
People are fookin smoking crack tonite as the read a few of my words and come up with 5
If i even had the slightest interest in building a track car then i garantee it would show YOU 2 broomy marco the way home....BUT my car isnt its a road car for my pleasure....and it will be a far superior road experience than any of your bone shakers Life aint a competition
If i even had the slightest interest in building a track car then i garantee it would show YOU 2 broomy marco the way home....BUT my car isnt its a road car for my pleasure....and it will be a far superior road experience than any of your bone shakers
Life aint a competition this just proves to me that you really know nothing suppension/handling
for a start, on the rd your car would not stay with me around bends never mind on a track and mine is a road car
because i got hard suppension the car you think the car is like a bone shaker , i'm not goting to waste my time giving you free info or explain anything because you wouldn't understand anyway
Bilstien do that many loads of different setting poundage/ rebound speeds you wouldn't get your breath .
it took me 3 to 4 times to get the suppension they way i like it and nobody else (personal choice)... so it's not that harsh on the road but will be ok on the track and do you know what else makes a massive differance that you don't know ..... is having the right poundage spring on the right shock and the right lenth you think you can just harden your springs and it will work
it won't because it won't match your rebound speed of your shocks
Brom's car is a track car so it doesn't matter how hard is
so there you go Syphlis
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20-05-2005, 07:47 PM
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Moose 130,
i got papers too say i can weld,, and i cant weld for shite bird poo anyone
Hell, I can weld but I'm looking at going to college to get a qualification on paper!
i got papers too say i can weld,, and i cant weld for shite
bird poo anyone
20-05-2005, 07:52 PM
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the only way u will learn to weld is weld and weld
no good having paper work saying you can do it when you can do it on paper but not in practice
thats y i carnt work out the whole student thing somebody thats been to a class room or somebody thats had 5 yrs hands on experance we both no who would be the better welder the one with no paper work
no good having paper work saying you can do it when you can do it on paper but not in practice
thats y i carnt work out the whole student thing somebody thats been to a class room or somebody thats had 5 yrs hands on experance we both no who would be the better welder the one with no paper work
20-05-2005, 07:55 PM
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i got papers too say i can weld,, and i cant weld for shite
At least you're honest about it!
Brom- I didn't know you had official qualifications, at least customers know your stuff is welded properly and 'to spec'. I didn't mean to offend with the 'hold on', but I know from personal experience you can get a little carried away.
20-05-2005, 07:58 PM
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They are nice arent they , this lots off to germany in a week or two but plenty more goodies available to play with ! Without these sorts of bits to copy we'd all be in the dark ages ,
Marco .. Alright chap !
Marco ..
Alright chap !
20-05-2005, 08:03 PM
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Marco.......
a road car to me is a road car...how fast could you possibly drive 600plus on the road? ...Its only a power figure to me ..Purely wasted TBH ROFL
For PROPER speed my Ducati is the ONLY thing to own on a public highway IMO
a road car to me is a road car...how fast could you possibly drive 600plus on the road?
...Its only a power figure to me ..Purely wasted TBH ROFL For PROPER speed my Ducati is the ONLY thing to own on a public highway IMO
20-05-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Just for you then Gareth ....
doh for some reason i cant see them
20-05-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Moose 130
Brom, what are the diffs from on the Zoo rear beams?
XJ6/S/12/40??
Does the WRC use the same diff and is it in production yet?
XJ6/S/12/40??
Does the WRC use the same diff and is it in production yet?
but i use the 10 inch gkn diff out the late xj 40 s and the xk8 xkr carsfor couple of resons
1st its the same family off diffs as used on the skyline but the jag is way bigger
2nd its the easyest to get the corect ratio with a lsd in it they come with a plated powerlock lsd
20-05-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
martin dont take this wrong but after going to all that effort why not copy a WRCcar?
i think you would do very well if you made these.
i think you would do very well if you made these.
20-05-2005, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
On a side note and without wanting to be rude to someone you all respect , I bought a set up from a VERY reputable source that "Looked Identical " to a "Bayjoo "beam set up , its not adjustable in situ and was appallingly badly made , i got rid of it real quick for a Gpa Type like above which is fully adjustable in every way ! cheapest and best bit of performance ive bought for the car i reckon .
Regards
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Regards
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20-05-2005, 08:58 PM
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I think i said it all when i said it Looked identical to the Bayjoo thing on Mikes website , i found it wasn't satisfactory for my needs and sold it on .
I'd no idea what it was supposed to be and had considered it was a homemade item until i saw it on the website but because i had little info i left it at that , my post wasn't designe d to create ructions , i leave that to others !
I'd no idea what it was supposed to be and had considered it was a homemade item until i saw it on the website but because i had little info i left it at that , my post wasn't designe d to create ructions , i leave that to others !
20-05-2005, 08:59 PM
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tony knows i havnt sold him a beam so am in the clear
i 1st made my beam with the jag diff in when mark k gave me a few ideas when i kept blowing diffs up
this was nearly 2 yrs ago
i basicly copied a factory rs500 beam with the add on bits and made a jig to suit
i also made the fully rose jointed aswell
until we started zoo i never seen a bayoo beam in my life until we was doing warrens car
the beams are simalr but arms totally diffent
i acutlly got the strapping idea from a beam me and marco acuttly bought from tony aswell
i 1st made my beam with the jag diff in when mark k gave me a few ideas when i kept blowing diffs up
this was nearly 2 yrs ago
i basicly copied a factory rs500 beam with the add on bits and made a jig to suit
i also made the fully rose jointed aswell
until we started zoo i never seen a bayoo beam in my life until we was doing warrens car
the beams are simalr but arms totally diffent
i acutlly got the strapping idea from a beam me and marco acuttly bought from tony aswell
20-05-2005, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
tony knows i havnt sold him a beam so am in the clear
i 1st made my beam with the jag diff in when mark k gave me a few ideas when i kept blowing diffs up
this was nearly 2 yrs ago
i basicly copied a factory rs500 beam with the add on bits and made a jig to suit
i also made the fully rose jointed aswell
until we started zoo i never seen a bayoo beam in my life until we was doing warrens car
the beams are simalr but arms totally diffent
i acutlly got the strapping idea from a beam me and marco acuttly bought from tony aswell
i 1st made my beam with the jag diff in when mark k gave me a few ideas when i kept blowing diffs up
this was nearly 2 yrs ago
i basicly copied a factory rs500 beam with the add on bits and made a jig to suit
i also made the fully rose jointed aswell
until we started zoo i never seen a bayoo beam in my life until we was doing warrens car
the beams are simalr but arms totally diffent
i acutlly got the strapping idea from a beam me and marco acuttly bought from tony aswell