dave green

checked my oil the other day and my oil level was 4cm over the max mark. me thinks over feuling , what do you think is the cause
any comments appreciated.


Thanks


Dave

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Dave,

Just in case you didnt know (and from my experience) ....

You should ONLY ever check a cossies oil level or add oil when left over night and the engine is completely cold.

This is the ONLY accurate way of checking level.

This is because the head holds a lot of oil which takes time to get back to the sump.

It is all too easy to over fill when the engine is warm.

St3V3_C

Could be, are you measuring it after letting it stand the same amount of time. Is it really 4cm? that's loads

dave cos4x4

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not losing any water awell, may be getting in the oil.


Dave.

Alvyn

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as said above and o/fueling which is the worsed due to bore wash OR sumones filling it without your knowledge!


pull d/stick out and have a smell m8 if it smells of petrol it will need to be sorted asap.

dave green

No water loss. mate of mine said that when i came past him it was chucking out a lot of black soot ect, then the next day i noticed a smoky exhuast thats what made me check the oil .



Dave

Alvyn

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check the map/ct sensors also

Rich_w

Mullered HG, the waters seeping into the oil.

dave green

No water lose.


Dave

Alvyn

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[quote="dave green"]No water lose.


also check the fuel regulator

dave green

Thank you guys for your help.


Dave

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dave green,
Before you start changing gaskets or regulators.....

Change the oil, let the engine cool down over night. top up as reqd.

Drive the car for a few days and ONLY recheck the oil every morning when
the engine has been left overnight and is stone cold.

If the oil level starts rising then you deffo have another problem


If the old oil stinks of fuel when changed then you may have a problem BUT
it takes alot of fuel to make a noticable level change in the oil.

Daveyraveygravy

Yes, you would deffo notice if the fuel was raising the oil level that much! It would absolutely stink of fuel and the oil would be like water

dave green

Neil S

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I reckon that fuel would evaporate out of the oil, or at least separate and lie on top... or am I wrong?

Neil.

Alvyn

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am I wrong?

Neil.[/quote]

petrol in oil and the oil would be like piss water and dont evaporate m8

Neil S

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But fuel is really volatile - ever spilt any on the floor?

Neil.

Daveyraveygravy

When petrol mixes with oil it will turn it very watery almost straight away and the oil will loose it's lubricating properties.

This is why massive overfueling and borewash is very worrying IMO

Dave

dave green

Thats whats bothering me.

Dave

Alvyn

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Dave, n e news?

dave green

Took it to A1 rally sport steve checked it over, put his pectel monitor on it everything ok, Gave it an oil and filter change. put in 3.6 litres of oil .as autodata recomends, dident seem enouth so put in a bit more 4 litres. did notice water loss but no water in the oil. could be a coincidence. steve advised to drive it steady and keep an eye on the oil and water levels.


Dave

Lee Reynolds

Simon(secs) Tony at TS told me that the best time to check the oil, is when its warm. He said pull up at petrol station, fill up, pay for the fuel and thats about then the right time to dip the oil! This makes your theory flawed Whos right, you or Turbosystems?

dave green

when changing the ol and filter HOW MUCH OIL DO YOU PUT IN



Dave

Billabong

It's more than 3.6L Dave when changing filter too, more like 4.7L nominal capacity.

Damo V

I agree with you Lee, no point having a good oil level whilst car is sat at home in the garage, then when its warm having nothing where it needs to be

Lee Reynolds

i have always checked my oil in that way Damo....as then you have the oil level while the engine is fully lubed....but Tony confirmed it for me when i went there!

Damo V

I have often pushed my car forward on a forecourt, cos someone was sitting behind me waiting to use the pump by the time I'd come out after paying

Lee Reynolds

fook em check it there n then

Lee Reynolds

up for simon

Daveyraveygravy

I always check my levels when the engine is stone cold i.e. in the morning.

The way i see it is that the MAX level, is what it says, the MAXIMUM you should put in the engine and no more

If you fill it up when it's been turned off for a couple of minuites you will exceed this level when you leave it overnight

This is the way i have always understood it.

Please correct me if you think i'm wrong

Dave

Alvyn

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I'm with you on this the other way will cause tooooooooooo much oil contained and WILL blow seals etc and course the car to smoke a lot

NMS Badboy^NUTTER^

Saw you at A1 the other day mate, last wednesday i think, car looks a real beauty, but i agree the darker blue is nicer

I must agree with Dave and Simon on checking the oil, maximum is maximum. Although the oil will drain back to the sump very quickly when its hot so won't make a big difference anyway

Daveyraveygravy

Exactly what i thought



You'd probably be suprised at the amount that will still be in the head after 5 mins, this would still cause you to go over the level

Alvyn

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HOPE you lot dont ever drive diesil engine vehicles IF over filled with oil they begin to suck it up and run on the engine oil and wont turn off and can rev up full throttle till they go bang

Speedy G.

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Not much difference between checking when engine is hot but been stood for half an hour OR being left over night and then checked?????

Engine hot, been stood for half an hour --> oil at min mark
Engine stone cold, been stood over night --> oil half way

Didn't fill up or anything like that.

Now you guyz tell me wich is the correct way of measuring???

Alvyn

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Engine hot, been stood for half an hour --> oil at min mark
Engine stone cold, been stood over night --> oil half way


this is the way I have ALWAYS check how much oil is in the engine from cold so by the looks of yours it HASN'T got enough m8

ps most engine once started up DONT have that much left in sump so d/stick WILL show low

Speedy G.

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So why do you say that I've got too little oil in the Cos.
It's between min and max.

Alvyn

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the d/stick on yours is showing in the middle yea so lets say that IF you was booting it round a good few bends etc there would be less oil in the sump for the pump to suck up

ps: maybe IF your lucky and this was to happens the oil light may come on for a few seconds and YOU would see it hopefully NOT cause n e damage to the engine etc If unlicky b/ends may well start to rumble

Speedy G.

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Then why would there be a min and max my friend????

That's why I want to know when to exactly check the oil.

Alvyn

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[quote="Speedy G."]Then why would there be a min and max my friend????

MIN: is the least oil YOUR engine will fuction with without causing damage(wouldn't do this too many times) MAX: again the most oil you want in the engine for it to fuction correctly.

n e amount of oil between min-max will do if THAT makes you feel better BUT check it 1st thing in the morning and put it to the MAX