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Old 09-05-2005, 10:59 AM
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OMG, i said "nos"
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Fook off now....i'm trying to get a quote out......but its the pump that creates the pressure......
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or use the outlet gases of the compressor (plus a little fuel) to drive the turbine wheel



oh no nothing new there,,, thats egr als
Old 09-05-2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sibster
Fook off now....i'm trying to get a quote out......but its the pump that creates the pressure......
hehhehe

over price yourself on the quote,,, that way you can spend all day on here and if you get the job its even better
Old 09-05-2005, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
In other words drive the compressor shaft with high pressure water???? If the shaft had ridged splines I guess it could be "driven" by water passing over it at high pressure
Jesus, you AND Mike been passing round the crack pipe
Mature sensible Escort Cossie owners in crack cocaine abuse shocker
Steve, sounds crazy, but It might just work ............You mark my word - as I said to Mike "this time next year we'll both be millionaires"
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Doug if you are going to do it, at least fire it at the blades not the specially constructed splined shaft
Old 09-05-2005, 11:07 AM
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Mike i have NEVER said about injecting Nitrous Pre-turbo to spin it, up, thats daft as fuck

Nitrous is GOOD as an anti-lag device as it creates a lot of exhaust gas, but always should be injected well after the turbo to be used inside the engine, as normal.

Either listen better Mike or lay off the Crack/PCP
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Doug if you are going to do it, at least fire it at the blades not the specially constructed splined shaft
Chip, your understanding of "water driven turbo shaft technology" (trade-mark StirlingTech/R & B) is sadly lacking

The way I meant is to drive the actual shaft (a modified shaft and core) so that it's pushed (or assisted) by compressed water to "drive" it - increasing compressor effinciancy (spl)
Old 09-05-2005, 11:16 AM
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Jeez, whats next, coal/wood powered steam engines?
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Doug, 3mm of leverage sounds great, i reckon you could do it with only a few gallons a second flow of water, there might even be just about enough room left in the inlet for about 2bhp worth of air as well, so the engine may nearly be able to run.

Im just jealous i didnt think of it
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Anyway BTTT for Steve.....and back on topic (especially you Chip )

.......I think the Flowjet is the best and most reliable of the 12 volt water pumps available.....as used by most WRC Rally teams, under very adverse/hostile conditions
Old 09-05-2005, 11:42 AM
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THIS was infact what I was thinking...

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=267

Long long thread, worth it tho
Old 09-05-2005, 11:55 AM
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Have used Flowjet & ERL . Tests were carried out :- In high boost situations (38psi+) the Flowjet can be overcome & the Charge Temperature can run away. This prob was not present with the ERL which runs at higher pressure. On road applications i accept both will prob be OK, but runs down Brunters will find it out.
The ERL is not as reliable & cost me dearly at TOTB1 when it failed & the cars Topend performance was comprimised.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:51 PM
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Rod,
You just double up on jets if you're having a problem with ACTs a la WRC cars. Fortunately this is only an issue with stupid boost pressures (i.e. 38psi ), as the more you compress a gas, the hotter it gets (thought you would know that ).
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Mike, cant you read? (again )

Rod is saying the Flowjet pump is a bit poo and cant flow enough so at 38psi the boost pressure overcomes the pump pressure so no water comes out.

I think
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The wizards of nos system uses the manifold pressure to pressurize the water tank to maintain a constant 10psi differential between the too if my understanding of it is correct, quite a clever way of doing it i think.
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Well for what I want to do, it dont have to act against boost pressure thankfully, but still needs a mega pressure pump.

The Wizards one sounds good tho
Old 09-05-2005, 01:10 PM
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its me again, if you are putting it in before the compressor and use the wizards one then you would get an increase in flow propertional to the amount of boost you are running im guessing, so that sounds pretty good in principle, would do away with the need for a controller like an MF2 or whatever quite possibly.
Old 09-05-2005, 01:39 PM
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Steve,
I interpretted it differently .

Originally Posted by MADRod
& the Charge Temperature can run away.
Old 09-05-2005, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
The wizards of nos system uses the manifold pressure to pressurize the water tank to maintain a constant 10psi differential between the too if my understanding of it is correct, quite a clever way of doing it i think.
simple but still very clever
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Rod,
You just double up on jets if you're having a problem with ACTs a la WRC cars. Fortunately this is only an issue with stupid boost pressures (i.e. 38psi ), as the more you compress a gas, the hotter it gets (thought you would know that ).
Two 1mm jets OK Mike cos thats what i got up to & as I said the Flowjet ran away when faced with a long time on the throttle the ERL coped no prob. This was on my old engine at 40psi.
Mike im surprised that your suprised that ive not tried everything on my car believe me tests have been carried out on lots of things, if the flowjet was as good in my application it would be on the motor IT AINT. Sorry if this goes against all your theories but i think my methods have proved themselves dont you. .
Old 09-05-2005, 05:01 PM
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Hi...i would just like to say..MIKE until Harvey gets back off holiday tommorrow PLEASE PLEASE shut thefuck up ROFL
Old 09-05-2005, 06:12 PM
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The pumps i use will supply pressure to 10bar.
It works well at this pressure to operate 2 0.5mm jets no prob.
I will use two jets on my car with proportional injection - look forward to testing out the new code for my displays that will allow this.


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