Redeye Jedi

Its bank holiday monday ive just been paid and i cant get any money out of the cash point as my card appears to be scratched!! Any tips for gettin them to work? What about colouring in the scratched section??

Absolutely gaggin to get down the pub but its not gonna happen at this rate!! Also cant even get cash back from the local shop as they now use chip and pin which involves another machine!! OMFG!!

Micky The Finn

chip and pin will work as it doesnt use the strip,but any shop can type your card number in and give you cash back.

Redeye Jedi

Thats what i thought and thats how ive got over the problem in the past!! But went in there yesterday and some lil biatch started kicking off saying she couldnt key it in as they were using a new chip and pin machine!! Gonna have to go and have another go shortly!! Im gaggin for a beer!!

Ginge !

just go to a big supermarket and ask for cashback, they will type it in after 3 attempts on the chip and pin

i should scan my bank car thats been fooked for over 3 months, i dont like the chip and pin so i snapped that past and now the card dont work on the magnetic stip either

to make maters the worse the signature is fooked too but i just shwo em me licence and all is cool

must order a new card though as it does get irratating at times

Ginge !

oh adn another alternative is phone the bank ( telephone banking)and transfer funds to a mates/partners bank account whos at the same bank and then draw the money out of that account

Jim Galbally

ginge, it depends on the machine type. SOME of the modern chip n pins cant do typed cards... altho normally its just the attendat being a divvy 6 year old bitch. Also theyre not obligated to accept payment off you without chip n pin. this is because the bnks do not honour the pyment if the customer disputed a non-chipnpin. so some may say if you not got the pin then fukoff (very rare tho). Also, you thought about borrowing the moneyoff a mate?

Ginge !

jim every machine can by pass it, its just cause the credit card company wont pay the store if its moody

hence why i said a a big store as they aint that bothered

Shings

Neil

Get some ORDINARY selotape. clear see through type.

Put a piece over the strip on the back.

Cut off neatly and smooth all the bumps out.

Should work fine now. I have around 80% sucess rate with this method and have never had anyone spot the tape yet.

Jake

Ginge !

that sounds like a proper pro credit card scam

im guessing by the lack of replies hes gone to the pub

Shings

lol

Just makes a new unscratched surface for the data. How close it is to being a scam I dont know.

J

Ginge !

, i wont say anything mate

Spax

Top tip

The Sludge

thinlayer of clear nail varnish

Lee Reynolds

yes the tape works..it aint a scam FFS....it works like the clear sticky covers ya can put on scratched CD's.....

Jim Galbally

ginge, not ALL machines can bypass.

Please remember i used to research EPOS systems

Ginge !

jim please remember that i know alot about credit card machines , used to be a hobby and still is for me mates


they all have the function as not everyone has there pins sent out !!!!!, there not set up to not allow people to spend money, show me a machine ya cant bypass !!!!

i bet it has a option but the store wont do it due to the risk factor !!!

Jim Galbally

no really, ginge not all of them do.

out of the 10 or so current IBM range i KNOW at least 2 of them can't do it. it would ONLY be possible to pay for something non-chip n pin if 1) you had a till that settles via a headoffice that had the function for manual stuff 2) you put thru the transaction by hand with a swiper.

Ginge !

jim tell me what happens whe the machine has a fault reading the chip !!!

it asks ya 3 times then as it cant then what happens, ya tell the customer to leave ????

trust me it does get by passed !!!!

also what happens with the chip and pin that aint got a oin sent out yet , it asks ya to swipe the card then too !!!!!


as for the general bypass, ive never seen a machine not allow it and supermarkets use there own machine for the chip and ya just type in on the pad with no card placed inside as its in the cashiers till


tell me a model and where that uses it and ill test it out

Jim Galbally

ginge, i really dont want to argue about something i know for a fact because i've researched, specced, demoed, and bought them whereas youve worked in a shop and done some dodgy dealings with creditcards

there is one witting in my old office that i guarantee will not accept a manually typed in card number, and it's actually DESIGNED that way.

banks dont like cards in circulation that don't swipe or read on a pin. most outlets have deals with their mecahnt services that explicitly forbid them from accepting payment on non swiped/chipread cards. if that is the case then WHY would they supply a cashier with the tools to do so

think about that one.

whenever you swipe/chipread a card and it goes off for authorisation the method in which it was entered is also sent down with it. some merchant services (BMS for one) will not even authorise a manually entered card under any circumstances. this happens with a lot of foreign visa cards mainly

Redeye Jedi

Indeed!! And ive only just returned! Tried the card in a couple more machines this morning and finally had some success so ive been out gettin pished all day! Now gonna head off to bed i think

Ginge !

jim ive not just worked in a shop mate, i was part of the i stalling of em and had to research and deal woth various banks that supply the machines !!!!!

the banks supply the machine for the stores


im not gonna argue with ya as my weekend has been shite enough, but ya not correct for general stores, no british cards dont have the same bankin system too, that dont count !!!!!!

store policy dont count either !!!!, if a company wont allow it dont mean ya cant do it


i personally wouldnt allow any transaction over 50 quid to be by passed but it was still possable, just i didnt want it

Ginge !

pmsl at the way were arguing and the guys in the pub playing pool all afternoon

Jim Galbally

no, only standalone PDQ machines work like the way you're thinking, most "proper" companies use their own integrated EPOS systems.

frog

Bought some wine on saturday, the chap behind the counter put my card inside a folded slip and ran it in the slot like that and it worked. Not something you can do in an ATM mind.

Good to know though.

magic randy

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frog, wots a folded slip ?? wot material

frog

I think the machines they use a quite old, and they still have to put a double sheet of paper in a printer to print your card transaction on (a white sheet and a yellow sheet).

The chap took one of those, ripped the white sheet off, folded the yellow one in half, put my card inside and swiped the lot.

magic randy

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cheeRS for the reply Frog