General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Any gearbox experts?? Scooby Box question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16-04-2005, 12:29 PM
  #1  
Barry_GTi
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
Barry_GTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Posts: 921
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Any gearbox experts?? Scooby Box question

Need a bit of advice on a Scooby box, if anyone has seen one the driveshafts for the front wheels come direct out of the casing, then there is a diff in the box before coming out the output shaft at the rear of the box to go to the rear diff etc......

My question is this........ to convert to 2 wheel drive could I simply not connect the rear output shaft and it will just drive the 2 front shafts direct out the box, like a transaxle? Or do you need some pressure on the rear output shaft? I just don't understand gearboxes and diffs well enough......

Thanks guys
Old 16-04-2005, 01:08 PM
  #2  
NUTS RuS
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (35)
 
NUTS RuS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Vimto Land Nr Warrington, Cheshire
Posts: 15,109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Had to lock the centre diff on the scooby last weekend as it broke a rear driveshaft and it had 2 stages to do like that before service.

It made it to service in 2wd mode and we changed the rear shaft okay, but the resulting stress' killed the Quaife dog gearbox on the next stage.

Didn't work too well, and I guess on a standard box it wouldnt survive for too long either.
Old 16-04-2005, 01:14 PM
  #3  
extra14
Regular Contributor
 
extra14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Theres a conversion that is done on the vauxhall f28 box to make it 2wd, diference being the diff system.

I recon it will work but (as mentioned above) the load to the front only will kill the bearings, plus the front was not designed to take 100% of the power.



Darren
Old 16-04-2005, 02:26 PM
  #4  
gearboxman
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
gearboxman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Building a gearbox in Markyate
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any gearbox experts?? Scooby Box question

Originally Posted by Barry_GTi
Need a bit of advice on a Scooby box, if anyone has seen one the driveshafts for the front wheels come direct out of the casing, then there is a diff in the box before coming out the output shaft at the rear of the box to go to the rear diff etc......

My question is this........ to convert to 2 wheel drive could I simply not connect the rear output shaft and it will just drive the 2 front shafts direct out the box, like a transaxle? Or do you need some pressure on the rear output shaft? I just don't understand gearboxes and diffs well enough......

Thanks guys
Drive to front and rear diffs is shared out via a centre diff that is built into the back of your transmission.
This diff has a viscous unit to limit slip, and if you simply didn't connect to the rear output, you would fry the viscous coupling and not get any drive to the front.
As Tony says, you would have to lock the centre diff up.

You could always use a 2WD Subaru box though....
Old 16-04-2005, 04:09 PM
  #5  
Barry_GTi
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Thread Starter
 
Barry_GTi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Posts: 921
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

If you hadn't guessed this isn't to go in a Subaru, but rather to use a Scooby lump to make a light(600kg) mid engined hatch. My thoughts were the Scooby engine being flat 4 would keep weight nice and low and the layout of the box meaning it would be proper mid engine as apposed to the conversions that use engine/transverse gearbox packages from FWD cars.

Bernie thanks for that I take it you mean that 2wd Subaru boxes use the same layout? And do you happen to know if they will handle 300ish bhp in a lightweight shell???
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Marino
Ford Escort RS Turbo
6
12-09-2015 11:10 AM
Rizlablue
Garage / Workshop & Tools Section.
0
06-09-2015 10:54 AM
Rizlablue
Garage / Workshop & Tools Section.
0
06-09-2015 09:58 AM
Adam Graham
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
7
06-09-2015 06:04 AM
gingeRS
General Car Related Discussion.
6
04-09-2015 06:29 PM



Quick Reply: Any gearbox experts?? Scooby Box question



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:09 PM.