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Old 06-02-2019, 07:27 AM
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Default EFR Manifold wot you think

I'm looking at getting one of these . Has any one had one of these from this seller . Any info would be Fab

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Old 06-02-2019, 11:57 AM
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I imagine even if it was not 100% right you have enough there to allow you to mod it if you really had to.
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I wouldn't touch it tbh, it's to cheap and not equal length
Old 06-02-2019, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
I wouldn't touch it tbh, it's to cheap and not equal length

good point about the lengths not being equal
Old 06-02-2019, 05:44 PM
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Was looking at that but really don’t like that end runner.
Just got to bite the bullet and get the tried and tested norco one I think.
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Nortec item is good if you can get one.

confused how that one above fits such a range of turbos, as the smaller efr's have T3 flange and the larger a T4 flange size!
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
Nortec item is good if you can get one.

confused how that one above fits such a range of turbos, as the smaller efr's have T3 flange and the larger a T4 flange size!
probably an option at checkout?

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Old 06-02-2019, 07:46 PM
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I have seen pics of a similar one to nortech being made on A Facebook page of MK when I was looking for pics of my car. I think the Wrc fiesta is having one.
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Looks like it will be difficult to plumb the oil return hose because there's no space between the runners below the turbo.
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
Nortec item is good if you can get one.

confused how that one above fits such a range of turbos, as the smaller efr's have T3 flange and the larger a T4 flange size!
Nortec still making them?
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Believe long lead times with norco but would need to check.
im still on the fence at the moment, efr with more hassle of exhaust etc or slap a 3071r on with Cosworth housing which bolts straight on and maybe save the transmission abit
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Mark measured the lengths on my EFR manifold this a.m., Ian, and my Nortech one is also all different lengths. Mark said the unequal is not an issue. I wonder if Mark Shead has any thoughts on it?
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I am sure that Mark Shead will also have a good supplier of EFR manifolds.
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Mark measured the lengths on my EFR manifold this a.m., Ian, and my Nortech one is also all different lengths. Mark said the unequal is not an issue. I wonder if Mark Shead has any thoughts on it?
This is my one


It may not be exact equal length I don't know but they all head directly for the turbo flange, the one on eBay has 1,2 and 3 directly to the flange, and number 4 takes a detour and is alot longer, I don't like it it's not how they are done
i presume that's why it's so cheap as there just straight tubes rather than the curved banana bunch

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Old 07-02-2019, 09:13 AM
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I’ve one of marks for mine. I think that’s a nortec one it’s a long runner for the big turbos.



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You’d be better staying with the original 2wd item mate

Cheers Paul
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One in the eBay add looks like it’s just been frbaricated with no thought other than what shape the flanges are
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I’ve one of marks for mine. I think that’s a nortec one it’s a long runner for the big turbos.



Out of interest did you get the thinner or thicker walled version?

Cheers Paul
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Originally Posted by turbotrev


Out of interest did you get the thinner or thicker walled version?

Cheers Paul
I’ve no idea to be fair lol
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Mark measured the lengths on my EFR manifold this a.m., Ian, and my Nortech one is also all different lengths. Mark said the unequal is not an issue. I wonder if Mark Shead has any thoughts on it?
Unequal length doesnt pose any issue to Subarus making power....and it'd be hard to get them worse lengths ! lol.

Turbos are great in many ways...and as long as the exhaust gets into the turbo, they'll make power. It would be very hard to actually make a really bad one in terms of that aspect.

Reliability on the other hand is very different, which is where the quality aspect comes in.
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Manufacturers are going for very short manifolds on turbo setups from what ive seen. This is because as exhaust gas cools its velocity decreases so the heat energy aids spool. AMG, bmw and porsche on the latest panamera have gone hot v configurations with the turbos closer to the heads in the V of the block.
Ive no idea if a really short manifold would make our turbos spool sooner on our cossies but would be interesting to find out.

As for the OP someone has to be the first to try something new. Could be alright ive no idea. Give it a go and report back

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Originally Posted by Mad_Mat
Manufacturers are going for very short manifolds on turbo setups from what ive seen. This is because as exhaust gas cools its velocity decreases so the heat energy aids spool. AMG, bmw and porsche on the latest panamera have gone hot v configurations with the turbos closer to the heads in the V of the block.
Ive no idea if a really short manifold would make our turbos spool sooner on our cossies but would be interesting to find out.

As for the OP someone has to be the first to try something new. Could be alright ive no idea. Give it a go and report back
Correct, with a lot of mfrs going direct to head these days.
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thats what im going to try with this one,as short and equal length as possible within the confines of where the turbo sits and scroll pulse order



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Keep us updated with that one spud...interesting to see. Worth adding egt sensor purely to see what heat it is at...and a go pro to watch it flow red lol.
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Other good thing with the nortech is it doesn’t seem to need a hanger so ideal for escos as don’t need to chop the heat shield
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Originally Posted by dan le moignan
Other good thing with the nortech is it doesn’t seem to need a hanger so ideal for escos as don’t need to chop the heat shield
I would use a hanger on any manifold, these aftermarket ones are prone to cracking more than the originals!!!

Cheers Paul
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I bought a hanger off AJC...just in case and I like the look
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Fair few running them without hangers with no issues I believe.
think some of the earlier ones may have cracked but later ones fine.
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Originally Posted by dan le moignan
Fair few running them without hangers with no issues I believe.
think some of the earlier ones may have cracked but later ones fine.
yes, I ran mine without, haven’t had the car to try the hanger.
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I’ve heard/seen lots that have cracked, some with hangers, earlier and later manifolds...
Was one of the main reasons I decided not to run one

Cheers Paul
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Ah ok can’t say as I’ve read of any of the later ones with issues etc.
Was hoping not to have to run one as don’t want to chop the heat shield.
Are nortech the only efr YB manifolds about?
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I guess you get what you pay for I didn’t think any of marks had cracked
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I guess you get what you pay for I didn’t think any of marks had cracked

Nortec manifold are built that well they will t crack . When I still had my cossie Matt Simpson took a look and couldn't believe the quality for the money and reckoned they were under selling them .
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Has anyone on here had a nortec one crack? I guess there are a fair few on here?
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Think some of the early ones may have but later ones fine?
see most of Marks builds don’t have hangers fitted.
Also see MK does a manifold but looks abit industrial!
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I use alot of pattern parts in my businesses on machines with great success BUT some of it is utter shite !
you only way you find out is by trying them, on a high moving part different brands can be tried and tested then decisions made going forward, but with something like this manifold you will likely only need one, so the saving will far negate the cost of a replacement if it turns out to be crap

As the old saying goes "you pay your money and take ur chances"
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Originally Posted by dan le moignan
Think some of the early ones may have but later ones fine?
see most of Marks builds don’t have hangers fitted.
Also see MK does a manifold but looks abit industrial!
was it this pic?



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Looks asif you’d need to upgrade the engine mounts with that manifold
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This one Toby (may have been proto with the lobster back bend which I didn’t like)
Its thickwall stainless



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Think it was Ł800 non WG


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