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Originally Posted by cossynut2
i changed my L6 ECU to an L8 ECU on my 2wd Saff with new engine/fans/fuel pump wiring looms plus MSD baby board for Siemens injectors, MSD wasted spark ignition and all been spot on..

same as what I did ..all was spot on mate .
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i changed my L6 ECU to an L8 ECU on my 2wd Saff with new engine/fans/fuel pump wiring looms plus MSD baby board for Siemens injectors, MSD wasted spark ignition and all been spot on..
A few were ok but many were not and like I say the idea was not executed very well and along with it gives the engine bay that face only a mother could love lol oh and the rev counter issues aswell
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A few were ok but many were not and like I say the idea was not executed very well and along with it gives the engine bay that face only a mother could love lol oh and the rev counter issues aswell

didn't a wire have to be soldered in to the back of the rev counter/Speedo.
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A few were ok but many were not and like I say the idea was not executed very well and along with it gives the engine bay that face only a mother could love lol oh and the rev counter issues aswell

didn't a wire have to be soldered in to the back of the rev counter/Speedo.??
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didn't a wire have to be soldered in to the back of the rev counter/Speedo.??
Didnt have a great success rate Glenn the only sure way was to change the rev counter to a mk1 mondeo one or a after market counter . There was nothing with the standard system as long its serviced correctly
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Taking my car to MK Motorsport. Most expensive mistake I’ve ever made. Having to alter 95% of his work to make it work. Thankfully I’m nearly done.
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I fitted a 4 paddle clutch. Couldn’t live with the noise it made. Done less than a mile before it was removed.
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Didnt have a great success rate Glenn the only sure way was to change the rev counter to a mk1 mondeo one or a after market counter . There was nothing with the standard system as long its serviced correctly
Never had any rev counter problems . What exactly was the problem as it's something I have never heard of before? The guys at MSD never mentioned it either.
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I fitted a 4 paddle clutch. Couldn’t live with the noise it made. Done less than a mile before it was removed.
An expensive mistake, you must have been well pissed off!!
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Originally Posted by Jay,
Didnt have a great success rate Glenn the only sure way was to change the rev counter to a mk1 mondeo one or a after market counter . There was nothing with the standard system as long its serviced correctly
I hear this quite often, yet EVERY system we fit in house for the past 15 years has always worked.

The fact is, the tacho signal side (orange P20 and gray P21) run a lower voltage signal than factory for reasons I wont bore you with.
For that reason, it will not tollerate any loss of signal through crap connections or other devices pulling the signal lower.
The rev counter has two options, both of which work.

1) Mod the back of the tacho to increase the drive voltage that arrives to the tacho coil.
2) Run an easy to make triple diode loom to the tacho straight from the coils. (Always works - Cant really not work, thats how the original works.)
The instructions to do both are included with every kit and have been for 15 years.

In my experience, it is peoples DIY fitment that fails.
No1 problem is people leaving the black tacho coil supppressor in the loom on power up. Do that and the tacho driver side of the board is often damaged.

No2 problem: Twisting and taping the twin greens at the coil back together instead of connecting decently. That connects your old loom, into our new one

No3 problem: Other things are tacked onto the tacho signal. Alarms, anti hijacks, SECS monitors, Boost controllers, ETC. Worse still, maybe badly.

No4 problem: An absolutely abortive attempt to install the driver itself into the ecu where the waterproof laquer isnt even penetrated, leaving an absolute joke of a signal path.

Its worth noting that the driver contains two totally independant circuits, one side drives the tacho and one runs the ignition system. So problems with each individual circuit are easily isolated.

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Stu. All the upgrade stuff that I bought off you was installed properly by the guys at Tremona Garage in Southampton and there has never been any problems with any of it. It seems to me that an unwarranted amount of negative feedback is out there, which hopefully now you have explained very well what the real problems are caused by.
Happy New Year. Richard from Southampton.
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
An expensive mistake, you must have been well pissed off!!
The cost wasn’t so much of an issue as I sold it and recovered some of the cost.
What pissed me of was having to take the box out for the 4th time in a year ( crankseal, techniclutch crap and being stupid )
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Taking my car to MK Motorsport. Most expensive mistake I’ve ever made. Having to alter 95% of his work to make it work. Thankfully I’m nearly done.
I thought mk was meant to be a great at the practical but a retard when it came to timescale, customer relations and just getting the work done that people had paid for?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
I thought mk was meant to be a great at the practical but a retard when it came to timescale, customer relations and just getting the work done that people had paid for?
he’s certainly the worst businessman on the planet.
He damaged my shell, left it out in the rain so it filled with water for weeks, couldn’t be bothered to weld my cage properly, sold me Cosworth tca’s With over extended adjusters instead of making bespoke focus ones which I paid for, put in a steering column which is loose and moves backwards and forwards, fitted a wrc pedal box and plate which fouls the steering column and stops it from turning and locates the pedals a bloody mile from the OE throttle pedal. Need I go on??????!!!
Old 02-01-2019 | 04:19 PM
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Pretty much everything I had done needed to be sorted by a professional.
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Pretty much everything I had done needed to be sorted by a professional.
......i am still awaiting for the ordered part from last year with no replies so ..need to add this also to the list...really bad decision..i am glad for you as you got it sorted at the end..
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......i am still awaiting for the ordered part from last year with no replies so ..need to add this also to the list...really bad decision..i am glad for you as you got it sorted at the end..
here we go again. Sorry you’re having a problem with him. He doesn’t give a toss mate. He has people giving him silly money to do their projects. While he has their car he talks them into more and more. Money keeps coming in so he loses interest in the little jobs. I speak from experience
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yes that's the one im thinking off, takes peoples money then ignores them while his apologist fanboys try to convince everyone hes really a misunderstood genius.
hes surely not still on the go is he? after all the negative threads ive read people are still giving him money?

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Sadly mate yes he is. If you follow him on Facebook it’s all kiss arse worshippers. He’s showing off expensive new machinery.
Even the eternal optimist and general nice guy Toby must be totally fucked off with him by now
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Originally Posted by boost monster


The cost wasn’t so much of an issue as I sold it and recovered some of the cost.
What pissed me of was having to take the box out for the 4th time in a year ( crankseal, techniclutch crap and being stupid )
Sorry I don't know much about your car, power level etc but what clutch are you using now? I run a Helix 6 paddle clutch with hydraulic conversion which seems fine.
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Pretty much everything I had done needed to be sorted by a professional.
Unfortunately when you own any of the RS Cosworth models there are still so called experts out there who think you must have loads of money. They are only to happy to take it off you for shoddy work and a total lack of customer service. Picking Cosworth specialists who you can trust is so important.Hopefully now you have found someone and your car is all sorted.
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Sadly mate yes he is. If you follow him on Facebook it’s all kiss arse worshippers. He’s showing off expensive new machinery.
Even the eternal optimist and general nice guy Toby must be totally fucked off with him by now
Yet no matter how many people you tell no fecker listens. I don't get why. His work isn't that good you are right.
I reckon there are at least 30 people waiting for cars/parts. Some probably will never get done. He is bloody good at jiggling the cash round though.
was defo my worst to deal with. I called time on the job after a year waiting and collected my cash and my un-touched bits.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I hear this quite often, yet EVERY system we fit in house for the past 15 years has always worked.

The fact is, the tacho signal side (orange P20 and gray P21) run a lower voltage signal than factory for reasons I wont bore you with.
For that reason, it will not tollerate any loss of signal through crap connections or other devices pulling the signal lower.
The rev counter has two options, both of which work.

1) Mod the back of the tacho to increase the drive voltage that arrives to the tacho coil.
2) Run an easy to make triple diode loom to the tacho straight from the coils. (Always works - Cant really not work, thats how the original works.)
The instructions to do both are included with every kit and have been for 15 years.

In my experience, it is peoples DIY fitment that fails.
No1 problem is people leaving the black tacho coil supppressor in the loom on power up. Do that and the tacho driver side of the board is often damaged.

No2 problem: Twisting and taping the twin greens at the coil back together instead of connecting decently. That connects your old loom, into our new one

No3 problem: Other things are tacked onto the tacho signal. Alarms, anti hijacks, SECS monitors, Boost controllers, ETC. Worse still, maybe badly.

No4 problem: An absolutely abortive attempt to install the driver itself into the ecu where the waterproof laquer isnt even penetrated, leaving an absolute joke of a signal path.

Its worth noting that the driver contains two totally independant circuits, one side drives the tacho and one runs the ignition system. So problems with each individual circuit are easily isolated.

I agree Stu most DIY jobs are a botch lol but I tried all of the above including a brand new loom built for the job ! And it is just my opinion but the yb engine bay is possibly the most untidy engine bay no matter how well you try and the coil pack conversion added to that lol . but it worked in the fact plug gaps were increased which made for easier starting and running ect but a well maintained old system would always work well
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Jay. different people have their own likes and dislikes of how they want the engine bay to look, if everybody did exactly the same thing it would be pretty boring. My Saff is old school and I like the look of my engine bay but that is my preference and other people don't like it which is fine.
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
Jay. different people have their own likes and dislikes of how they want the engine bay to look, if everybody did exactly the same thing it would be pretty boring. My Saff is old school and I like the look of my engine bay but that is my preference and other people don't like it which is fine.

Jesus mate I take my hat off to you that takes some up keep and it looks very well cared for mate
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The YB is an Untidy lump, but it can be made to look ok. The coilpack doesnt have to sit on the wing.
On a MK1 it simply cant!

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You just got to spend time hiding things away on the YB, they look great of you spend some time on them.

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Loomer. that is a top job!! hiding all the wiring suits your engine bay a treat but I like the "clutter and untidy' look which is more old school on my Saff .
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Stu. Very nice Mk1 Escos conversion! Tidy engine bay which does suit it very well.The trouble is in my Saffs engine bay there is'nt really much room so the wing position where the old coil sat is the ideal spot.
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Stu. Very nice Mk1 Escos conversion! Tidy engine bay which does suit it very well.The trouble is in my Saffs engine bay there is'nt really much room so the wing position where the old coil sat is the ideal spot.
Yours looks perfect mate.
Thats where we still fit them today unless asked to do otherwise.
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Mine sits on the corner of the battery tray so it's not in your face
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After telling them they wouldn´t do anything with it...
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Cozzy jeff Very tidy engine bay. From the look of it you have done a resto with new paint and parts? My old Saff still has it's original paint from 1990.
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Cozzy jeff Very tidy engine bay. From the look of it you have done a resto with new paint and parts? My old Saff still has it's original paint from 1990.
My 2.8 special Capri is the same all original panels and paint 50000 miles, that's why I stored it away gotta be worth a few quid I think being all original
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Cozzy jeff Very tidy engine bay. From the look of it you have done a resto with new paint and parts? My old Saff still has it's original paint from 1990.
Yes mate it's all in my resto thread.
I've been meaning to update it for a while now,new engine build and bw turbo for end of the show season👍
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My 2.8 special Capri is the same all original panels and paint 50000 miles, that's why I stored it away gotta be worth a few quid I think being all original
The value of good 2.8i Capri's is now getting pretty high so yours will be a banker that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
didn't a wire have to be soldered in to the back of the rev counter/Speedo.??
Hi Glenn. yes but the Sapp. has different types of rev counters witch makes it a bit difficult .. but in the end I got mine to work

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Is the 2wd saff clocks different to the 4x4 saff clocks.
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