Fordmad!

Right I've been looking at another car suitable for a car seat as getting my 1 year old in the rs1800 is virtually impossible and not much Easier in my mk6 rs2000.



So far I'm looking at

Mondeo st200
Mondeo st220
Cupra r 20v turbo (my favourite option)

Virtually ruled out a focus st2 as so many about and I've grown to dispise them.

Anything else you'd recommend?

Budget max 3k. Something reliable too

Fullflush

The Cupra is miles ahead of any Mondeo, have a look what Golf's are about

charlie luciano

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Audi RS6

Fordmad!

Nooo can't stand golfs! Probably consider an Audi but the whole Audi/BMW thing isn't really me

Adam-M

Impreza

massivewangers

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In what way? More economical than a six cylinder one maybe and slightly faster in a straight line perhaps. Dynamically though, an ST220 would take a large shit on a Leon. It's just a much better car to drive.

gcfcos

My mates got a mk4 golf v6 4wd, it goes bloody well and sounds good with the stainless fitted to it but due to the age it needs a lot of upkeep now but it is used daily. Boots not very big though. I've always wanted a mondeo st200 or st220 very nice to drive

Fordmad!

I did wonder that too. Mate has a 200 and that's a cracking motor and know a few with 220s and they are pretty good all round cars

3i Jim

Bmw e39 530i sport

john_p_b

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octavia VRS. don't knock it until you've driven one

for 3k you'd get a mint mk1 with some sensible mods or a reasonable well travelled mk2. i had a mk1 for 2 years before it got written off and had my mk2 for 6 years now, haven't changed it as i don't think i can better it for the money.

StevieJay69

Get a nice impreza turbo for that money or I would go with the ST220 😎

turbotrev

Audi s3/1.8t sportback

Cheers Paul

Glenn_

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If you want a ford go with the ST220. I can get my 16 month old son into my mk3 mondeo easily enough. But if you want a fast saloon go for a impreza or evo if you can afford it.

nice_head

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If you go for the Cupra then make sure you look out for the leaky door seals and the door locks seizing up, that happened to me and I couldn't open the door from inside or out!

Fordmad!

I think it's coming down to a st220 or cupra r. I like them both and am guessing both similar running costs and performance

big_wasa

There as different as you can get.

Hot hatch with boost vs Gt tourer with silky smooth torque.

It's Czech Mate

Octy VRS

Fartblood

Volvo S60. OK, not a 5 door, but theres no cheaper way to get 300 reliable ponies, and they usually chime in cheaper than a turbo hatch with much less grunt. A cheap way to get a rust free MKII Focus ST with the engine already tuned for you

Glenn_

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The ST220 are a good car. Try to find a well specced one with the full sat nav head unit and the entertainment system in the back for the back passengers.

Just dont go for a 06 07 reg cauae there about 400 quid a year tax lol. The last ST220S had half leather and half alcantara (sorry if its spelt wrong) the rare seats are red leather with the black inserts.

STeve

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sod paying Ł500 for tax on the 220 plus fuel economy and parts prices are shocking

atm

What about the mondeo mk4 2.5t?

Same 5cyl volvo engine as focus st and come with plenty of spec!

Plenty of scope for mods too, platform has more in common with rs then the st, RS front brakes bolt straight on.

fuzzy

a "what car ?" thread isn't a what car thread until glens been on to suggest a Mondeo. .
ill be just as predictable and suggest a 3 litre tdi c class with sport pack. 265bhp + 450lbft after a Ł230 tune up,smooth 7 speed auto, 0-60 in low 6's seconds ,36+mpg, 360mm discs with 4 pot calipers as standard, lovely black leather /aluminium interior , 7 speaker bose system and generally a lovely place to sit . my 2006 estate with unmarked bodywork, service history and 3 previous owners cost me Ł2600 . another Ł1500 spent since has given me 18" amg alloys with uniroyal rainsport3 tyres,limo tints, stainless exhaust and new brembo discs and pads and I'm now so impressed with it I go out for a drive for no reason other than driving, and often end up in towns/cities up to 100 miles away. ive not done that with a car since I had my cosworth bmw back in 2005 !

Glenn_

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The ST220S before 2005 are cheaper on tax even though its the same engine and same emissons.

Glenn_

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Thing is Fuzzy the mondeo does just a good job as the merc but without the badge snobbery and the price of parts for the mondeo are a lot less.

Ive driven mk4 mondeos are they drive so much nicer than the mk3s.

Turbo Zetec

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mazda 6 mps.

Fartblood

Great idea. And when you get bored you can slip the engine into a Focus or Fiesta.

Turbo Zetec

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they call it a '2016 focus rs' if you stick the engine in a focus

basically the same engine, ford just made it a bit worse by making the exhaust manifold part of the head casting

gcfcos

Drove a couple of these when I worked at Mazda, go very well

Turbo Zetec

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same here, i was at mazda when they launched. they weren't as fast as my cossie at the time but i loved the way they drove, kind of reminded me of an evo at the time.

Glenn_

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Dont these mazda 6s rot like fook???

Ive seen a fair few mazda 3 n 6s rotton

Fullflush

Mondeo's are dog awful

fuzzy

maybe theres badge snobbery at the high end but were on the bottom rung so I don't think that matters. ive not found parts to be expensive either. 350mm brembo discs and pads for the front cost me under Ł150 to buy and a local garage fitted them for Ł60 . general service parts seem to be average as well.

gcfcos

In what way?

fuzzy

what years are mk3 and mk4 mondeos?

st220kyle

mk3 came out in about 2001 and then the mk4 took over in about 2007

Glenn_

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Shut up lol.

The mk3 looks better than a bland vw passat. Come to think of of it the mk4 looks better than a peeesat of that year.

The mk4 mondeo titanium sports are lovely imo.