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Old 21-02-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Thank you. Part of been an enthusiast is driving the carimo.
Where is your cossie just now?

As long as someone cares about something, whether they drive it 6 month of the year, 2 month of the year or it goes to a couple of shows a year they can still be an enthusiast.

The fact is if people didn't store these cars or use them and spend an absolute fortune on maintenance/rust prevention, you would never see really mint examples.
Old 21-02-2016, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Thing is are all the collectors older people who grew up watching them race? The now younger generation has no idea what so ever what an rs500 is and would no way pay money for one lol. As time go's on will they drop in price as people will simply have no idea or clue what they are other than it being an old ford Sierra
If that was the case then why are the scrapyards not now full again of £50 Model T Fords? and 1920s Bentleys as the people who used to like them when they were new are all long gone.

People are dreaming if they think any of these cars will drop back to the old price levels of the past.

I don't get the obsession of people moaning about the price of other peoples possessions and trying to dictate what they do with them.

The market sets the value, the market is saying that's what modern classics now command and if a buyer had that kind of disposable cash they are hardly fools are they, as is being claimed. Most current buyers of these cars are self made people and know the value of a quid.
Old 21-02-2016, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
If that was the case then why are the scrapyards not now full again of £50 Model T Fords? and 1920s Bentleys as the people who used to like them when they were new are all long gone.

People are dreaming if they think any of these cars will drop back to the old price levels of the past.

I don't get the obsession of people moaning about the price of other peoples possessions and trying to dictate what they do with them.

The market sets the value, the market is saying that's what modern classics now command and if a buyer had that kind of disposable cash they are hardly fools are they, as is being claimed. Most current buyers of these cars are self made people and know the value of a quid.
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Old 21-02-2016, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
That will happen most cosworth enthusiasts are older let alone the millionaire collectors. Like you say most petrol heads these days are more interested in semi quick everyday cars and don't give a toss about an old ford Sierra.
I do agree to a degree as whenever I take the saff out it get swarmed by 30 and 40 something year old guys drooling over it with fond memories but what has suprised me is the amount of youth giving it the thumbs up or taking pics on their smart phones. Either they know what it is or wonder why some old twat with a grey beard (me) is driving down the road in that old banger..
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Lol Jason.

I am in my 40's with some white showing and when out in mine its usually bikers around the same age given me the nod.
Old 21-02-2016, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChuck
Where is your cossie just now?

As long as someone cares about something, whether they drive it 6 month of the year, 2 month of the year or it goes to a couple of shows a year they can still be an enthusiast.

The fact is if people didn't store these cars or use them and spend an absolute fortune on maintenance/rust prevention, you would never see really mint examples.
On the drive cause ive just been out in it. Had a fun 30 mins too.
Old 21-02-2016, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonPD
I do agree to a degree as whenever I take the saff out it get swarmed by 30 and 40 something year old guys drooling over it with fond memories but what has suprised me is the amount of youth giving it the thumbs up or taking pics on their smart phones. Either they know what it is or wonder why some old twat with a grey beard (me) is driving down the road in that old banger..
Funny thing is I also find its the younger guys who always want to look at mine when I go somewhere and they seem to be really interested and always want to take photos, especially of the engine bay.Most of them have a good idea of what it is even though some of them would have been babes when it was built in 1990!!
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
On the drive cause ive just been out in it. Had a fun 30 mins too.
Good to see you taking it out Glenn, what are the roads like near where you live? Hopefully a few places where you can give it some stick!
Old 21-02-2016, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
On the drive cause ive just been out in it. Had a fun 30 mins too.
if youd bought something Japanese it wouldn't have broken down after 30 minutes.
Old 21-02-2016, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
Good to see you taking it out Glenn, what are the roads like near where you live? Hopefully a few places where you can give it some stick!
Yeh they were clear of salt today so i took it out.
Old 21-02-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
if youd bought something Japanese it wouldn't have broken down after 30 minutes.
I didnt break down pal i took it out for 30 mins and that was it.
Old 21-02-2016, 05:27 PM
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I know I was just joking but for some reason I cant add smileys anymore so its difficult to show the context of comments !
Old 21-02-2016, 06:41 PM
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I know you were pal. I dont take anything to heart. Lifes to short.
Old 21-02-2016, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
I know I was just joking but for some reason I cant add smileys anymore so its difficult to show the context of comments !


I seem to have this problem too.
Old 21-02-2016, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
I know I was just joking but for some reason I cant add smileys anymore so its difficult to show the context of comments !
I knew you were joking purely on the fact that most jap stuff ain't reliable haha
Old 22-02-2016, 12:20 AM
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It's the Silverstone classic car auction next weekend some nice cars there. Capri brookland with less than a thousand miles on and a Lancia integrale with a few hundred miles that's where my money would be going.
Old 22-02-2016, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
If that was the case then why are the scrapyards not now full again of £50 Model T Fords? and 1920s Bentleys as the people who used to like them when they were new are all long gone.

People are dreaming if they think any of these cars will drop back to the old price levels of the past.

I don't get the obsession of people moaning about the price of other peoples possessions and trying to dictate what they do with them.

The market sets the value, the market is saying that's what modern classics now command and if a buyer had that kind of disposable cash they are hardly fools are they, as is being claimed. Most current buyers of these cars are self made people and know the value of a quid.
Im not saying it will happen just a thought after all they are everyday cars to most people I just make the opinion on the way the young guys I work with view them. They have absolutely 0 interest in them. Things like bentleys are a little more special in a hell lot more people's eye lol

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Old 22-02-2016, 12:59 PM
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Exactly. You cannot compare something like a model t or a Bentley to a ford Sierra. The only thing that makes an rs500 better than a normal 3dr is its history, which is something that is quickly forgotten....
Old 22-02-2016, 01:35 PM
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But these cars are creating their own 'legendary' status and appeal simply by becoming £100,000 collectables. Regardless of their heritage, as others have said, people won't remember that in the future. People don't remember Ferrari 250GTOs racing either, but they've long been associated as being collectable and, with it, hugely expensive to buy. It doesn't matter if they are worth it or not. Do you think a 1960s Ferrari is that nice to drive? Or a 1970 Hemi 'Cuda worth over $2,000,000 isn't a bit crap?
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Your not really comparing an RS Sierra to a 250gto are you. Even my mum would no the name Ferrari 250gto! Ask her about a cosworth and she may say I think my son has one
Old 22-02-2016, 04:36 PM
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They are an iconic car, hence the leap on prices, why is anyone questioning it when its a fact. They are close on 30 years old so not trading on recent short lived fame.

Grannies and spotty apprentices are not buying them, wealthy people are, and there are far more of them than available cars.
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
They are an iconic car, hence the leap on prices, why is anyone questioning it when its a fact. They are close on 30 years old so not trading on recent short lived fame.

Grannies and spotty apprentices are not buying them, wealthy people are, and there are far more of them than available cars.
No one has denied it but the spotty kids of today are tomorrow's wealthy collectors do you think there be looking to spend 100k on a car they have never heard of or like.

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Old 22-02-2016, 05:46 PM
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I have been reading a book called the Cosworth Fords and it says in there a bloke bought a second had RS500 in 1995 for 18k.
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
They are an iconic car, hence the leap on prices, why is anyone questioning it when its a fact. They are close on 30 years old so not trading on recent short lived fame.

Grannies and spotty apprentices are not buying them, wealthy people are, and there are far more of them than available cars.
Paul some people just don't understand 2 gto owners have been to my place of work one of them has 2 lol and other is a famous drummer
when was the last time you see joe public with a RS200? Last one of those i see for sale was a Joe Macaris in london for 230k.
And to be honest the cars he sells are not that nice. But rhis is what the rich guys are spending their money on.

Paul
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Originally Posted by RichieST
Exactly. You cannot compare something like a model t or a Bentley to a ford Sierra. The only thing that makes an rs500 better than a normal 3dr is its history, which is something that is quickly forgotten....
Lol yep cossie's have great history, drug dealers chariot of choice, armed robbers getaway car of choice, joyriders dream and thieving scrotes number one target...only kidding
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
No one has denied it but in the spotty kids of today are tomorrow's wealthy collectors do you think there be looking to spend 100k on a car they have never heard of of like
So who buys model T Fords these days then? the escort popular of the 1920s? not many 90 year old car buyers around these days, so based on your theory they should all be ending up on the scrappage scheme now as the demographic buyers for them are virtually all long dead.
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Originally Posted by costina
Paul some people just don't understand 2 gto owners have been to my place of work one of them has 2 lol and other is a famous drummer
when was the last time you see joe public with a RS200? Last one of those i see for sale was a Joe Macaris in london for 230k.
And to be honest the cars he sells are not that nice. But rhis is what the rich guys are spending their money on.

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I know mate, the term educating pork springs to mind at times on this place. My 500 is now owned by such a guy.
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
So who buys model T Fords these days then? the escort popular of the 1920s? not many 90 year old car buyers around these days, so based on your theory they should all be ending up on the scrappage scheme now as the demographic buyers for them are virtually all long dead.
Ok buddy
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Just to add, if I had £100k spare would I buy a 500 with it? not a chance in hell!
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For a 100k i would be a escos a 3dr and a 2wd saff. But in reality i would pay it off my morgage.
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Originally Posted by costina
Paul some people just don't understand 2 gto owners have been to my place of work one of them has 2 lol and other is a famous drummer
when was the last time you see joe public with a RS200? Last one of those i see for sale was a Joe Macaris in london for 230k.
And to be honest the cars he sells are not that nice. But rhis is what the rich guys are spending their money on.

Paul


Gotta be Nick Mason of Pink Floyd? As for the guy with 2, that's just greedy!
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
Just to add, if I had £100k spare would I buy a 500 with it? not a chance in hell!
Have to agree with that!! But..... If I had millions in the bank I might.
Old 23-02-2016, 05:35 PM
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I have to giggle at some replies

But its just this ,, its just that ,, its not a bently blar blar blar

No it isnt , its an rs500 , a legend in its own right

And for those who cant understand it , you better start as this car will sell no problems

Infact i put a very serious buyer onto the car over the weekend and im sure a deal will be done
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Originally Posted by gjh
Gotta be Nick Mason of Pink Floyd? As for the guy with 2, that's just greedy!
Yep
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Originally Posted by Mr RS500
I have to giggle at some replies

But its just this ,, its just that ,, its not a bently blar blar blar

No it isnt , its an rs500 , a legend in its own right

And for those who cant understand it , you better start as this car will sell no problems

Infact i put a very serious buyer onto the car over the weekend and im sure a deal will be done
There is always a buyer like you say its an icon of the 80's.
somebody will be getting a piece of nice motoring history.
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No doubt this will get binned off......

I've been emailed/ messaged/ called a number of times asking about this car which I owned from when it entered the country which I owned for 8 years.

Someone called me saying the car had been on axel stands all its life in a carcoon and the wheels haven't been refurbed....totall rubbish
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To add it took 2 odd hours to drag the car out of my garage, the last time I drove it as instinct I put the handbrake on....
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Originally Posted by juddzey455
To add it took 2 odd hours to drag the car out of my garage, the last time I drove it as instinct I put the handbrake on....
Am I missing something here or are you saying you used to own this RS500 that is for sale at £100k? Tell us more about it if that is the case.
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Originally Posted by juddzey455
No doubt this will get binned off......

I've been emailed/ messaged/ called a number of times asking about this car which I owned from when it entered the country which I owned for 8 years.

Someone called me saying the car had been on axel stands all its life in a carcoon and the wheels haven't been refurbed....totall rubbish
Haha

They've gotta talk the price up somehow mate!

I'm sure it's still a nice car but you've got to love the imagination of some folk!
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So did anyone on here buy it then? As its sold!


And if you didnt , you should of, bet it will be 150K in 5 years time, maybe 200K



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