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If that mileage is correct it would have loads of sought after parts which should be in very good condition. Depends on how much it can be bought for?
If it was re-built using another Sapphire Cosworth shell would it still be able to be described as a 23,481 mile car?
If that mileage is correct it would have loads of sought after parts which should be in very good condition. Depends on how much it can be bought for?
If it was re-built using another Sapphire Cosworth shell would it still be able to be described as a 23,481 mile car?
I hope the owner had it insured with an agreed value so he has got some good money for another one. With a car like that with such low mileage I would have thought at least Ł12 to Ł15k.
I think the wall was the winner of the crash!
cat b, that means can't go back on the road, used for parts only. and can only be bought by a registered breaker?
I think
No it doesn't you can put any back on the road, the cat marker is only an advisory and legally means nothing. Has a drastic effect on the cars value though.
I'm not sure what happens now the vic scheme has gone, but when I was vic testing cat a and b cars had a more lengthy test.
The point of no return is a cod (certificate of destruction) marker which supposed to be issued as the car gets destroyed.
Once it has a cod marker that's it and there is no going back.
I heard about a rare Morgan, on one of the many vosa courses I did, that had somehow stayed alive with a cod marker and the guy who managed to get it painfully restored the car at massive expense only to be told it had to be destroyed when he tried to tax it, there was nothing at all he could do with the Id the car had.
Wounder lol
No it doesn't you can put any back on the road, the cat marker is only an advisory and legally means nothing. Has a drastic effect on the cars value though.
I'm not sure what happens now the vic scheme has gone, but when I was vic testing cat a and b cars had a more lengthy test.
The point of no return is a cod (certificate of destruction) marker which supposed to be issued as the car gets destroyed.
Once it has a cod marker that's it and there is no going back.
I heard about a rare Morgan, on one of the many vosa courses I did, that had somehow stayed alive with a cod marker and the guy who managed to get it painfully restored the car at massive expense only to be told it had to be destroyed when he tried to tax it, there was nothing at all he could do with the Id the car had.
Wounder lol
Certificate of destruction needs to be handed to coparts within 7 days of winning the bid on the vehicle,b
Originally Posted by visa_broke
i'd have thought they'd have at least removed the bricks from the back seat before pictures
They don't care they just dispose insurance write offs they just see it probably as a old shitter of a Sierra
Nice donor for a bare shell with ID rebuild, used to be plenty of them around for buttons, all seem to have vanished these days.
The problem with cat B rebuilds is if you later have to make an insurance claim, they wont pay out. The car is effectively worthless as a result, so has to be broken to recover any money, if its burned out or stolen then there is nothing to sell!
Anyone who thinks a 27 yr old smashed up Sierra had only done > 25,000 miles needs there head examined - it's going to be 225,000 miles or maybe 125,000 miles (if you are lucky).
Anyone who thinks a 27 yr old smashed up Sierra had only done > 25,000 miles needs there head examined - it's going to be 225,000 miles or maybe 125,000 miles (if you are lucky).
Whys that then and what difference does it make if its 'smashed up' ?? I have a 27 yr old BMW 6 series that has a genuine 40k (would be a lot less if I hadn't driven it to Spain several times) and a Firenza that's 44 yrs old with 32k miles on it and there's no reason why that Sapphire couldn't have 27k genuine. The likelihood of it being 27k and not 127 isn't high but its entirely possible.
Anyone who thinks a 27 yr old smashed up Sierra had only done > 25,000 miles needs there head examined - it's going to be 225,000 miles or maybe 125,000 miles (if you are lucky).
Must admit I was surprised that it had only done just over 23,000 miles, I think you are probably right its more like 123,000.
Is it right that the bonnet doesn't have vents in??
Yes the 2wd sapphires(88-90) didn't have bonnet vents from the factory only the later 4x4 cars built in 1990 onwards had them, many owners of 2wd cars have fitted them though so that's why you have probably seen lots of them
Is it right that the bonnet doesn't have vents in??
Yes,2wd cosworths all had plain non vented bonnets as standard and they changed when the 4x4 was released.
I'm searching high and low for a plain pre 1990 sapphire bonnet for my genuine 35000 mile 26 year old saph if anybody has 1.
That car could have had any history,stolen recovered with no interior,previously a track car but it looks very very nice and could well be 23000 miles going by the pics.
It's got a few bent panels and I can't see big chunks of filler falling out so it's been looked after if it's 123000 miles.
Thats sensible prices.1k for a good shell and a week with the spanners you will have a good useable saff.
Yea that's my thinking, although i've saw full shells minus engine and running gear for between 4-6K recently...i'd imagine there would be a good few bits you could sell if you found a good trimmed shell.
Last edited by vroooom ptssssh; 11-02-2016 at 07:10 PM.
I work for co part , clean car apart from the dents lol and those bricks are a part of the wall it hit surprised the owner don't buy it back to be honest that's what usually happens with these
I work for co part , clean car apart from the dents lol and those bricks are a part of the wall it hit surprised the owner don't buy it back to be honest that's what usually happens with these
Hope the owner had a sensible agreed value on the Insurance. If not I bet the owner didnt get that much back, maybe thats why it wasnt bought back?
10-02-2016, 01:29 PM
Cat B blue cosworth on coparts
I have a 27 yr old BMW 6 series that has a genuine 40k (would be a lot less if I hadn't driven it to Spain several times) and a Firenza that's 44 yrs old with 32k miles on it and there's no reason why that Sapphire couldn't have 27k genuine. The likelihood of it being 27k and not 127 isn't high but its entirely possible.
and those bricks are a part of the wall it hit 
surprised the owner don't buy it back to be honest that's what usually happens with these
