Mk2TinaRyan

So i'm thinking of buying a type 9 5 speed out of a 2.0 capri. This is to fit onto my 3.0 Essex. Also have a Mk2 Capri 3.0 box (with bulkhead) so was wondering if i could put the v6 bulkhead on the type 9 if needed? If that works is that all that needs done?
Cheers

Mk2TinaRyan

Stupid bugger I am, Keep saying bulkhead rather than bellhousing lol.
I mean bellhousing...

DAN400

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near sure its a straight swap,
been along time since I worked at a v6 all the same

RIB1122

iTrader: (2)

in a word no
The type 9 won't bolt to the essex V6 bell housing
the input shaft is different, need i say anymore

Mk2TinaRyan

Oh bollocks
Seems the only way of a type 9 going on is to buy the burton bellhousing... And I don't have that kind of money to throw about...
What other gearbox could i use for my essex that isnt a 4 speed?
Thanks for the help guys

caprizetec170

Even then you need a v6 type 9 out of a 2.8 capri i think as the input shaft is longer

bj928

i did hear that a v4 bellhousing out of a transit would work to fit a type 9 on a v6 essex, or if you got a friend in south africa, they fitted the essex right up to 2000 in sierras and they had 5 speeds, may or may not have been type 9's

Mk2TinaRyan

Dunno how easy it is to get a hold of the v4 bellhousing
Will have a look to see mate, thanks!

Rob_DOHC

iTrader: (4)

Why are you staying essex? Cologne 2.9 is a better starting point and you can be pretty flexible with gearbox choice.

However, I do have a friend who races a car with an essex, and they use a rocket box (ford type e) and it has been mostly reliable.

Mk2TinaRyan

Building my Mk2 Cortina as my first car (and first build). My uncle has given me the running gear from a mk2 capri 3.0 and that includes suspension, axles (52" atlas ) and the 4 speed box and the essex. However I am on a very low budget (having just turned 16) and the essex needs rebuilding. just looking for options, although i dunno how the 4 speed would be on fuel with the essex

jamie956

To fit a type 9 to an essex correctly you need a bellhousing from a Mk1 2.5 or 3.0 Granada or as you said an alloy one from Burton.

You can use your bellhousing and modify it to take the Type 9, you have to machine out the hole in the middle where the input shaft gos re drill the mounting holes and nut and bolt it together, although this has been done before there is a risk of it cracking the bellhousing as the hole end up in a thin part of the casting, you might have to cut abit off the nose of the input shaft aswell depending on what T9 you have and also check the spiggot bearing in the end of the crank i cant remember if you have to change that as well.

The bulk head and tunnel will also need cutting out and making larger and the hole where the gear stick comes through moved back, when you do this you make sure the heater box gos back in before you weld it all up as if you make the tunnel to big it wont fit back in i know this from experance.

You will all so need a gear box mount you should be ok with the capri one just drill and bolt it through the floor using big washers on the inside.

Mk2TinaRyan

Sounds like a lot of hastle to do, so i think i'll put the 4 speed in it then later down the line when i've got more money, i'll put a 5 speed in there with the burton housing. Although thanks for the tip on the heater box, never thought of that!

Cheers

jamie956

Nither did i now i dont have a heater

Mk2TinaRyan

Lol, that must be shit hahahah. Better than having a shitty gearbox tho..

Rob_DOHC

iTrader: (4)

Ahh thats fair enough, just playing devils advocate here... have you tried to find out any details regarding insurance after the essex conversion. It might pay to check first and live with a pinto for a year or two?

Also, from personal experience the cologne is a very tough, long lived engine much more so than the essex which it all but replaced. You can probably find a fit cologne for less than the cost of rebuilding the essex.

such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-2-9-V...item1e99dcfe46


Also, again to be a pain... I would be looking to use an MT75 not a type 9.

All the best and good luck

Rob,

RIB1122

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or buy a full conversion!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3216618124...84.m1555.l2649

Mk2TinaRyan

Have got a couple of quotes but it doesn't actually seem too high. Although i have already cut the chassis legs out and am starting to put the capri legs in... So to be honest, there's no going back.

Yeah the cologne seems a better option to be honest, it's all down to how much it'll cost to rebuild it. And I think the cologne engine is lighter too which is an advantage. And the fuel injection too

Have been looking for a 24V cosworth too, just to see if one pops up!

Ah the mt75... That the same one that came off the transit's?
Will look into it though.
Cheers!

Love the Escort by the way, nice build!

Mk2TinaRyan

Oh if i had a grand I would mate... would love a 24v in her

Rob_DOHC

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Fair play and good luck with it, thanks regarding the escort... sadly I haven't touched it in 3 years

All the best

Rob,

Mk2TinaRyan

Thanks and will probably need it lol. No bother she's a stunning motor! Aw how so? That's a shame, should get her back on the road again then!