Carlos-Titx

Perfect!

This one is staying in the car which is why I'm after it to be less obvious.
Although I'd love to see someone try and punch the side window out and break his hand on the double glazed glass

Carlos-Titx

Painted the camera. Just used a tiny brush and small tin of model paint.



And in situ.



Just need to sort the window mount, got it to stick on the black area of the wind screen but soon fell off

Slight change in brightness as well but definitely makes a difference.

Thrush

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Can't actually use mine yet cos the SD card still hasn't turned up But it was mounted to that perspex I stuck on the glass all day and it's been fine. Grab one of those disc things I linked to and it'll be fine

Carlos-Titx

I will do.
Was the sticky backing black as well?

marc_gti

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just a question, what are people using to hard wire direct rather than using the lighter socket?

Thrush

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Couldn't tell you, I didn't buy one. I just used an off cut of clear perspex and some double sided foam tape. I linked that one to illustrate what would be an ideal product should anyone else want to stick the sucker in the black band area of the screen

Thrush

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Easiest way would be with one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191481710298 - then just splice into the wiring on the back of the lighter socket, and plug the supplied power adapter into it.

JamboRS

Ive got this and going to wire it to a switch under the steering wheel so it can be turned on and off rather than have to keep removing the plug from the cig lighter

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=351074131747

robby71

I ordered 1 of these last night with the 32gb card - do i need an adapter as some card have them and some don't?

STeve

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all the good makes supply the micro sd with it, its mainly for uploading purposes to the pc or you have to rig the dash cam up direct to the pc which is a major pain in rear end

Thrush

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http://www.break.com/video/a-year-s-...mayhem-2829160

Carlos-Titx

That last clip is brilliant!

Thrush

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Since having one in the van, it kinda feels "wrong" driving my own car without one. I even took the one out the van today and temp rigged it up in my car as I had to go over to Chesham today and it felt weird driving the car with no cam in it?!?

I was thinking just get a second power supply and install it in the car and saw the actual camera over when I use my car, but I'm now thinking of a dedicated cam in the car instead - mainly as the one I bought is fine for the van, but a bit bulky to have in the car. I'd like to not see it, and just have it there ticking away, recording everything.

So I'm thinking of this one, as it's the smallest I can find, and hopefully it will "disappear" behind the mirror http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2617681534...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

But I don't have a separate screen to hook it up to, to set it up. Don't need a fixed screen to view it on - the plan is just set it up, get all the options and auto on/off blah blah set so it's just working away in the background when I'm driving, and if anything happens I just pop the memory card out and transfer it to my computer. But I'd need a screen to plug it into to initially set it up.....

Glenn_

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A lad at work has one of these. Ive had a look at it today and it looks ok. The picture on the small screen is clear too.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hd-1080P-2...item1e95e7bfd1

STeve

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been using the g1w for a few weeks now and like it but I too want a smaller one so I am going for the mini 0805/6 myself

Glenn_

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Size matters.

Carlos-Titx

Same.

Use the g1w for work and want a twin camera for my jeep front and rear.

Rod-Tarry

Im looking for a 2 camera system. Anyone know much about this one.
Vico Marcus 5. Seems expensive but the only twin 1080p I can find.

Carlos-Titx

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2014/9/29/watch-your-back-with-the-vico-marcus-5-dual-1080p-dash-cam.html

Edit: it would seem I still can't post working links from my phone.

Rod, Google that camera and Techmoan is a result. He does informative review videos and shows footage of cams he tests.
Should give you enough info if you want one or not.

stevieturbo

Does the Blackvue not do front and rear ?

Thrush

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If you're going to spend the money, and go two cam, get a Blackvue. Speak to Will Pedley - he recently installed a dual camera Blackvue

Rod-Tarry

The 750 Blackvue seems to be what im looking for. Has gps capability as well. Thanks guys your info has been helpful.

Carlos-Titx

I wouldn't worry about the GPS as it could go against you.

Psycho Warren

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gps speed isnt accurate enough to be relevant. if the police want to do you due to excessive speed, they will do it by timing between measured points on your route.

If you cause an accident while filming, anyone with a brain will pull out the card and destroy it prior to police arriving

stevieturbo

Excessive speed is a blanket term they often use when they have no proof of actual speed.

And the GPS should be reasonably accurate....more so than the speedo's in their vehicle whether they claim them to be accurate/calibrated or not

Although strangely the GPS on my camera seems to read about 1-2% slow, which is odd.

But I would definitely want GPS if it is available.

Carlos-Titx

I mean the insurance companies rather than the police.

I've briefed the Mrs if she has an accident that was her fault to remove the camera and card.

STeve

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been using the mini 0805 in the daily drive and find it spot on and hides away bahind the rear view mirror easy., but in rods case the blackvue for sure

Rod-Tarry

I do not intend using the camera or GPS on public roads. If I did the GPS would be unplugged.

daviddunlop83

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It depends on what model you go for, the one I got does have a front and back camera though I currently only have the front wired up.

Also I think when you have both it reduced the quality of the front camera esp at night. But the quality is excellent anyway so I don't see it being a big issue

stevieturbo

For those recorders with a rear...is it a separate unit ? I remote bullet cam type thing ? Other ?

Rod-Tarry

The Blackvue is separate camera's. Im not interested in rear facing both camera's will be used forward facing.

Carlos-Titx

You can get some built in the one unit but it'll record inside the car. Ideal for taxis. Rest are wired small cams.

There is one that has the control unit and 2 tiny cams for front and rear so you don't have the large size camera in the front window.

stevieturbo

I guess if someone wants multiple cameras, one of the dedicated race recorders is probably best, although they're bloody expensive

Psycho Warren

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The gps wont be accurate enough to convict on. GPS speed is only really accurate over longer distance. All sorts of reliability issues come into it, eg satellite coverage, 2d or 3d fix, positional accuracy, timer errors, glonass or US GPS, etc etc etc. Also the cameras simply dont have the data recorded to check that. raw speed and positional data on its own means very little.

Some one with a good technical defence could easily pick apart cheapo gps logging speeds.

Hence why they do you by manual means.

Sure none of its going to help if youre going silly over the speed limit - they wouldnt even need to bother looking at gps for that.
But then you get the problems that most race units don't have any of the "convenience" features a typical dashcam has.

Plus remember with race stuff youre paying extra for the same componants but with a higher reliability rating and a fancy weather proof case and customised firmware/software

oh and someone certainly would steal a fancy race set up if they saw it! Many are a grand plus easily and a lot more if you want 4 cameras in HD, GPS etc. Where as your cheapest chinese camera is under a tenner and even the branded stuff is cheap enough that it wont be worth stealing and fencing on.

stevieturbo

If you feel GPS is useless...maybe you better tell Racelogic and their Vbox this

I'd sooner trust even a cheap GPS speed reading than bullshit police lasers at long distances, or their bullshit attempts to estimate speed over time/distance.
And of course the biggest bullshit one already mentioned, claims of excessive speed which require no factual evidence whatsoever from the police.
Hell, even with their laser...they could be pointing it at anyone and then claim it's you who were speeding. And if they couldnt shoot a car from 600yards with a handgun, it almost defies belief why they think they could get an accurate speed reading from a single car at such distances with a similar handheld device as they are often used.

Even a cheap GPS reading IS reliable enough to dispute such a claim if the police are lying through their teeth, which does happen.
I'd sooner want that evidence than none at all.

Psycho Warren

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The gps chip in a racelogic system is going to be better quality than a cheapo dash cam.

doesnt eliminate the environmental factors though.

It doesnt matter what you trust, its about what the law believes in. a tested, home office approved speed gun, in date calibration versus a cheap ass dash cam gps.

no way would that cause reasonable doubt and i doubt a magistrate would give a shit what your dash cam said speed wise when they have approved speed detection equipment catching you out.


However that works in your advantage if you crash and someone wants to use your gps speed against you.



again who is a magistrate going to trust? not you! not forgetting the prosecution would easily discredit your evidence for all the technical reasons ive already mentioned on gps systems.

stevieturbo

Cheap GPS is one aspect, the video evidence that can also offer proper time/distance from visual references on the road would provide a secondary speed reference.

It would take a very very corrupt judge/legal system to dispute 2 levels of completely impartial evidence if both were shown to be vastly different to what the police are claiming.
And in a case where a cop tries to pull the excessive speed bullshit with no evidence, the cop shouldnt have a leg to stand on against it.
If he makes claims of a specific speed then he would have to have rock solid evidence to actually take it to court, and evidence showing the vehicle committing the offence if it was any sensible and just legal system.

And the GPS on the Vbox is still only a 10Hz, so nothing fancy by any means. But yes it would be better than a very cheap unit. But if both have good strong signals then there is no reason their speed readings shouldnt be within say 2%.


Again all the factual evidence you can get to try and back you up, is better than none at all. That should carry far more weight than the BS that comes out of most cops mouths in court.

Glenn_

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Silly question but do you have to have a sticker in the car to warn people you have a camera in your car like you have to do when you have cctv cameras on your house.

stevieturbo

Police dont have stickers warning that they are recording, so I see no reason why the public would need them

If they dont want recorded...dont cross your path

Carlos-Titx

No mate. It's perfectly legal to film people in public places including filming the police.

People think you can't. The only place you can't is on someone else's property, private land.