Dash Cams "talk to me"
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If you wanted to spend a couple quid to make it tidier, then just get one of these
http://www.halfords.com/sat-nav-audi...-mounting-disc
But I couldn't be arsed
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http://www.halfords.com/sat-nav-audi...-mounting-disc
But I couldn't be arsed
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Perfect!
This one is staying in the car which is why I'm after it to be less obvious.
Although I'd love to see someone try and punch the side window out and break his hand on the double glazed glass
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when I bought it yesterday it was Ł32.99 but no doubt after last nights car crash tv show they have put them up lol
E-PRANCE New G1W Novatek 2.7" Car Dashcamera Driving: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
also the techmoan review stated to use a 32g class 6 microsd card and not a class 10
E-PRANCE New G1W Novatek 2.7" Car Dashcamera Driving: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
also the techmoan review stated to use a 32g class 6 microsd card and not a class 10
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all the good makes supply the micro sd with it, its mainly for uploading purposes to the pc or you have to rig the dash cam up direct to the pc which is a major pain in rear end
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Since having one in the van, it kinda feels "wrong" driving my own car without one. I even took the one out the van today and temp rigged it up in my car as I had to go over to Chesham today and it felt weird driving the car with no cam in it?!?
I was thinking just get a second power supply and install it in the car and saw the actual camera over when I use my car, but I'm now thinking of a dedicated cam in the car instead - mainly as the one I bought is fine for the van, but a bit bulky to have in the car. I'd like to not see it, and just have it there ticking away, recording everything.
So I'm thinking of this one, as it's the smallest I can find, and hopefully it will "disappear" behind the mirror http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2617681534...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
But I don't have a separate screen to hook it up to, to set it up. Don't need a fixed screen to view it on - the plan is just set it up, get all the options and auto on/off blah blah set so it's just working away in the background when I'm driving, and if anything happens I just pop the memory card out and transfer it to my computer. But I'd need a screen to plug it into to initially set it up.....
I was thinking just get a second power supply and install it in the car and saw the actual camera over when I use my car, but I'm now thinking of a dedicated cam in the car instead - mainly as the one I bought is fine for the van, but a bit bulky to have in the car. I'd like to not see it, and just have it there ticking away, recording everything.
So I'm thinking of this one, as it's the smallest I can find, and hopefully it will "disappear" behind the mirror http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2617681534...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
But I don't have a separate screen to hook it up to, to set it up. Don't need a fixed screen to view it on - the plan is just set it up, get all the options and auto on/off blah blah set so it's just working away in the background when I'm driving, and if anything happens I just pop the memory card out and transfer it to my computer. But I'd need a screen to plug it into to initially set it up.....
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A lad at work has one of these. Ive had a look at it today and it looks ok. The picture on the small screen is clear too.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hd-1080P-2...item1e95e7bfd1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hd-1080P-2...item1e95e7bfd1
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http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2014/9/29/watch-your-back-with-the-vico-marcus-5-dual-1080p-dash-cam.html
Edit: it would seem I still can't post working links from my phone.
Rod, Google that camera and Techmoan is a result. He does informative review videos and shows footage of cams he tests.
Should give you enough info if you want one or not.
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gps speed isnt accurate enough to be relevant. if the police want to do you due to excessive speed, they will do it by timing between measured points on your route.
If you cause an accident while filming, anyone with a brain will pull out the card and destroy it prior to police arriving![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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If you cause an accident while filming, anyone with a brain will pull out the card and destroy it prior to police arriving
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gps speed isnt accurate enough to be relevant. if the police want to do you due to excessive speed, they will do it by timing between measured points on your route.
If you cause an accident while filming, anyone with a brain will pull out the card and destroy it prior to police arriving![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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If you cause an accident while filming, anyone with a brain will pull out the card and destroy it prior to police arriving
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And the GPS should be reasonably accurate....more so than the speedo's in their vehicle whether they claim them to be accurate/calibrated or not
Although strangely the GPS on my camera seems to read about 1-2% slow, which is odd.
But I would definitely want GPS if it is available.
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I mean the insurance companies rather than the police.
I've briefed the Mrs if she has an accident that was her fault to remove the camera and card.
I've briefed the Mrs if she has an accident that was her fault to remove the camera and card.
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It depends on what model you go for, the one I got does have a front and back camera though I currently only have the front wired up.
Also I think when you have both it reduced the quality of the front camera esp at night. But the quality is excellent anyway so I don't see it being a big issue
Also I think when you have both it reduced the quality of the front camera esp at night. But the quality is excellent anyway so I don't see it being a big issue
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There is one that has the control unit and 2 tiny cams for front and rear so you don't have the large size camera in the front window.
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Excessive speed is a blanket term they often use when they have no proof of actual speed.
And the GPS should be reasonably accurate....more so than the speedo's in their vehicle whether they claim them to be accurate/calibrated or not
Although strangely the GPS on my camera seems to read about 1-2% slow, which is odd.
But I would definitely want GPS if it is available.
And the GPS should be reasonably accurate....more so than the speedo's in their vehicle whether they claim them to be accurate/calibrated or not
Although strangely the GPS on my camera seems to read about 1-2% slow, which is odd.
But I would definitely want GPS if it is available.
Some one with a good technical defence could easily pick apart cheapo gps logging speeds.
Hence why they do you by manual means.
Sure none of its going to help if youre going silly over the speed limit - they wouldnt even need to bother looking at gps for that.
Plus remember with race stuff youre paying extra for the same componants but with a higher reliability rating and a fancy weather proof case and customised firmware/software
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oh and someone certainly would steal a fancy race set up if they saw it! Many are a grand plus easily and a lot more if you want 4 cameras in HD, GPS etc. Where as your cheapest chinese camera is under a tenner and even the branded stuff is cheap enough that it wont be worth stealing and fencing on.
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The gps wont be accurate enough to convict on. GPS speed is only really accurate over longer distance. All sorts of reliability issues come into it, eg satellite coverage, 2d or 3d fix, positional accuracy, timer errors, glonass or US GPS, etc etc etc. Also the cameras simply dont have the data recorded to check that. raw speed and positional data on its own means very little.
Some one with a good technical defence could easily pick apart cheapo gps logging speeds.
Hence why they do you by manual means.
Sure none of its going to help if youre going silly over the speed limit - they wouldnt even need to bother looking at gps for that.
But then you get the problems that most race units don't have any of the "convenience" features a typical dashcam has.
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oh and someone certainly would steal a fancy race set up if they saw it! Many are a grand plus easily and a lot more if you want 4 cameras in HD, GPS etc. Where as your cheapest chinese camera is under a tenner and even the branded stuff is cheap enough that it wont be worth stealing and fencing on.
Some one with a good technical defence could easily pick apart cheapo gps logging speeds.
Hence why they do you by manual means.
Sure none of its going to help if youre going silly over the speed limit - they wouldnt even need to bother looking at gps for that.
But then you get the problems that most race units don't have any of the "convenience" features a typical dashcam has.
Plus remember with race stuff youre paying extra for the same componants but with a higher reliability rating and a fancy weather proof case and customised firmware/software
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oh and someone certainly would steal a fancy race set up if they saw it! Many are a grand plus easily and a lot more if you want 4 cameras in HD, GPS etc. Where as your cheapest chinese camera is under a tenner and even the branded stuff is cheap enough that it wont be worth stealing and fencing on.
I'd sooner trust even a cheap GPS speed reading than bullshit police lasers at long distances, or their bullshit attempts to estimate speed over time/distance.
And of course the biggest bullshit one already mentioned, claims of excessive speed which require no factual evidence whatsoever from the police.
Hell, even with their laser...they could be pointing it at anyone and then claim it's you who were speeding. And if they couldnt shoot a car from 600yards with a handgun, it almost defies belief why they think they could get an accurate speed reading from a single car at such distances with a similar handheld device as they are often used.
Even a cheap GPS reading IS reliable enough to dispute such a claim if the police are lying through their teeth, which does happen.
I'd sooner want that evidence than none at all.
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doesnt eliminate the environmental factors though.
It doesnt matter what you trust, its about what the law believes in. a tested, home office approved speed gun, in date calibration versus a cheap ass dash cam gps.
no way would that cause reasonable doubt and i doubt a magistrate would give a shit what your dash cam said speed wise when they have approved speed detection equipment catching you out.
However that works in your advantage if you crash and someone wants to use your gps speed against you.
again who is a magistrate going to trust? not you! not forgetting the prosecution would easily discredit your evidence for all the technical reasons ive already mentioned on gps systems.
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Cheap GPS is one aspect, the video evidence that can also offer proper time/distance from visual references on the road would provide a secondary speed reference.
It would take a very very corrupt judge/legal system to dispute 2 levels of completely impartial evidence if both were shown to be vastly different to what the police are claiming.
And in a case where a cop tries to pull the excessive speed bullshit with no evidence, the cop shouldnt have a leg to stand on against it.
If he makes claims of a specific speed then he would have to have rock solid evidence to actually take it to court, and evidence showing the vehicle committing the offence if it was any sensible and just legal system.
And the GPS on the Vbox is still only a 10Hz, so nothing fancy by any means. But yes it would be better than a very cheap unit. But if both have good strong signals then there is no reason their speed readings shouldnt be within say 2%.
Again all the factual evidence you can get to try and back you up, is better than none at all. That should carry far more weight than the BS that comes out of most cops mouths in court.
It would take a very very corrupt judge/legal system to dispute 2 levels of completely impartial evidence if both were shown to be vastly different to what the police are claiming.
And in a case where a cop tries to pull the excessive speed bullshit with no evidence, the cop shouldnt have a leg to stand on against it.
If he makes claims of a specific speed then he would have to have rock solid evidence to actually take it to court, and evidence showing the vehicle committing the offence if it was any sensible and just legal system.
And the GPS on the Vbox is still only a 10Hz, so nothing fancy by any means. But yes it would be better than a very cheap unit. But if both have good strong signals then there is no reason their speed readings shouldnt be within say 2%.
Again all the factual evidence you can get to try and back you up, is better than none at all. That should carry far more weight than the BS that comes out of most cops mouths in court.
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