gus

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anyone know what weight a transit connect van will tow comfortable


or a site with the specs of them on



thanks


gus

focusv8

800kg.

http://www.whatvan.co.uk/vandata.asp

Stuart

gus

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thanks mate


that will be too small then


stick to me original idea then, get a warrior

AlexF

my dad's transit pulls WAY more than a ton

I've towed 1.5 tons no problems at all... perfectly safe at stopping and restarting on hills too!


Alex

focusv8

Transit CONNECT not Transit.

AlexF

yup... I looked up a transit... limit is abotu a ton!

My point was I cant believe how little a connect can tow..

It also doesnt seem to matter as people tow all sorts to race meets and trackdays.,.. with escorts/cavs/astras!!!

Alex

gus

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how much does a average trailor weigh

JoeE30

Dont forget you might not be able to tow some things on a normal driving licence!!!!!!!

markk

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thats until the law catches you up near a weighbridge

TIFF

My Bad Boy will pull 3500kg

markk

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i bet it wont

TIFF

Says in my Specification book it will

It here in black and white

markk

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i bet it says "gross train weight"

and dont forget your bus will weigh about 2.5 tonnes so you can tow 1000kgs

please correct me if im wrong

TIFF

Trailer with over-run Brakes-3500 KG on the road

markk

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have a look at t he gross train weight on your chassis plate , which is what the ministry use for determining the complete weight of the towing and the towed , your right about the overun braked trailers are always more than unbraked ( usually about 700ish kgs for unbraked ) but , if your cars loaded up all seats , boot etc , then the gross train weight applies , just beware thats all !!

TIFF

Fuck going outside to look

markk

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i didnt mean now you fcuking goon

TIFF

AlexF

AlexF

from a gov web site

"There are only two legal requirements for weights and loads: One is that you must not exceed the Gross Train Weight (GTW) that is shown on the manufacturer's ID plate under the bonnet, and the other is that you mustn't exceed the trailer's 'Maximum Gross Weight'."

Iain Mac

There is a third requirement:
If your Gross Train Weight exceeds 3500 kg you need a tacho.

I'm not sure if you might still need an Operator's Licence if it isn't "For Hire Or Reward".

markk

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no you dont , tachos are a thing on there own , can be on vehicle less than 3500kgs , all dependant on use i.e hire/ reward over 16 seats can have tacho , generally its for over 7500kgs on DESIGN GROSS WEIGHT only for hire/reward and not taxation of PLG or RECOVERY

i know a little bit about weights from a company i used to manage a few years ago , and it was very critical we stayed within the law

and operators applies separately all again

Iain Mac

My experience is entirely with commercial operations so I don't know if there is an exemption for hauling your own stuff about, but anyone carrying goods over 3500kg needs a tacho. Our advice to anyone buying a towbar for a van plated at 3500kg is to have a tacho fitted. One customer refused and was caught on the A9 (Transit and Trailer) with a train weight of 6.9 tonnes - the van was impounded.

The full blurb is on:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/privatehgvpsvowners/tachographsanddrivershours/ecdrivers'hoursandtachographrulesforgoodsvehiclesf aq.htm#P39_2031

But this is the important bit:

3.5 TONNE WEIGHT CRITERION [See Section 4 of GV262]
FAQ.2) What does "Maximum Permissible Weight" mean?
The EC drivers’ hours and tachograph rules apply to vehicles used for the carriage of goods, where the maximum permissible weight of the vehicle, including any trailer, exceeds 3.5 tonnes. Maximum "permissible" weight refers to the maximum carrying "capacity" of the vehicle, not the "actual" weight of the vehicle at the time in question. This means that the rules would apply whether or not the vehicle is laden, provided it is being used for an operation which is in scope of the rules [see Section 22 of GV262 for details on exemptions].

The rules are not confined to goods vehicles and can apply, for example, to a dual purpose (4x4) vehicle towing a trailer for commercial purposes.

Based upon earlier Court cases, the maximum permissible weight is calculated to be the lesser of:

The maximum permissible gross weight of the towing vehicle plus the maximum permissible gross weight of the trailer, or;

The maximum permissible towing (train) weight of the towing vehicle.

markk

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thats about it , hence why i use a large van to tow my trailer and car , its just not worth the risk , not only that the pulling power and stabiility is another