does anybody on here know what the differences are between 3dr runnig gear and 2wd saff running gear or is it a straight swap over

i am going to start a 3dr build and am wondering whether to just buy 2wd saff running gear or original 3dr running gear

i am talking about front xmembers aswell as rear end

also does the 3dr have power strg??or just rack and pinion and is the abs system the same on both cars

sorry for all the questions but i guessed you lot would be the best to ask

pugo

 

As far as I remember, the 3dr hubs are slightly different, and the rear ARB mounts differently on the beam.

 

3dr has power steering

 

Pon are we talking front hubs here or rear or all???????

cheers rene, that is what i thought but i just went on a cosworth spec site and it said 3drs had non powered strg just rack and pinion

 

Funnily enough i was chatting to Brom about this the other day and he mentioned some difference between the bulkhead too as i wanted to swap all my saff running gear onto my 3dr






Martin

 

cheers martin, but what needs changing on the bulkhead, the abs mntg position???? is it because its different or is it because of something else

 

Ask Brom as it went flying right over my fookin head








Martin

 

Nearly everything from a saff will fit onto a 3 door!
The main differences are the front hubs + arb, the rear arb and arms and the gearbox crossmember! Pretty much everything else will fit.

 

here you go
all cossie are fitted with ABS
the bulkheads are the same
3 doors use different hubs and botom arms to sapphire but alkl are interchangable
3Doors have a slightly diffrent front roll bar
3 Doors have a different rear anti roll bar as its mounted on the out side of the rear arms plus its thinner
Iam led to belive a sapphire roll bar will not mount into a 3 door shell due to the hole mounting points
The gearbox X member is also different to a sapphire so this would also have to be changed

 

So does that mean the complete abs could be removed from a saff and put into the 3 door?







Martin

 

Yes!

 

you will need to use a 3 dooe wiring loom as the sahhire one will be a bit messy to fit I do have a proper one if needed

 

Thanks Spadge and Pete







Martin

ps sorry pugo thread hijacking

 

So basicaly what i said then Pete
The 3 door rear arb is wider and mounts to the outside of the rear arms where as the saff one mounts to the inside of the saff rear arms! The 3 door rear arb also mounts onto the chasis in a different place which is why a saff one won't fit!

 

As Pete says above!
The reason for this is that the 3 door abs ecu is located behind the drivers footwell side panel where as on a saff it is located above the engine ecu on the passenger side of the dash. This means the loom for the 3 door will be longer but will still fit

 

your the man I didnt see your reply hence mine

 

I guessed that and was only teasing you Pete

 

Do you mean the engine loom or the actual car loom as i have a new pectel engine loom sitting here but no car loom for the 3 door?


Martin

 

Your engine loom will be fine
We are talking about the abs loom which attaches to the car loom!

 

thanks guys..........as you have probably worked out i am about to embark on building 2 3drs with s2martin........so you breakers boys better be ready for a large influx of cash coming your way