Importing a MK1 escort cosworth into OZ ???
22-05-2014, 11:43 AM
#1
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Thread Starter
Importing a MK1 escort cosworth into OZ ???
HI all
Iam currently in the process of moving to Australia and was wondering if anyone on here has ever imported a Mk1 escort cossie into Australia ?
I have been intouch with a few car importers in OZ who are giving me mixed signals
some are saying you can bring one in but it has to be the small turbo cossie with the air bag and others are saying you can bring both
I personally want to import a MK1
there is certain criteria that needs to be met before you can get it onto Australian soil , which is quite a task in itself !
Obviously you may be thinking ..........is it worth it ??? well it all depends on wether or not you can bare to be parted from your pride and joy ?
Plus can you afford to buy a cossie out in OZ ....
Anyway back to my original question , If anyone knows of anyone who has imported a MK1 into OZ i would be very interested in finding out exactly how they did it
any info greatly appreciated
Iam currently in the process of moving to Australia and was wondering if anyone on here has ever imported a Mk1 escort cossie into Australia ?
I have been intouch with a few car importers in OZ who are giving me mixed signals
some are saying you can bring one in but it has to be the small turbo cossie with the air bag and others are saying you can bring both
I personally want to import a MK1
there is certain criteria that needs to be met before you can get it onto Australian soil , which is quite a task in itself !
- There must be NO rust on the car
- It must have a standard exhaust system
- New tyres
- Original alloys
- New brake pads
- New brake/clutch fluid
- No engine mods i.e original turbo,injectors etc
- Original air filter & Box
- Radiator must be free from insects
- MUST be dirt free
- Must be professionally valeted
- MUST have original Headlights
Obviously you may be thinking ..........is it worth it ??? well it all depends on wether or not you can bare to be parted from your pride and joy ?
Plus can you afford to buy a cossie out in OZ ....
Anyway back to my original question , If anyone knows of anyone who has imported a MK1 into OZ i would be very interested in finding out exactly how they did it
any info greatly appreciated
22-05-2014, 08:35 PM
#6
If you already own the car and are emigrating and have a visa then its a straightforward process and you can get a exemption from the normal aussie import rules, under the personal import scheme.
Basically you can take in whatever car you like as long as you have owned and used it for a certain period in the UK first.
Depending on the state you want to register it in then you may have to make some small changes, just check with them direct, you should find all the info on google
Costs about £1500 to ship in a dedicated 20' container from the UK.
Budget about 50% of the cars value in import duties etc though, as they like to screw you for that, its based on the purchase invoice, and reduces depending on how long you have owned the car.
If you have not bought one yet, then find a car with aircon, its a must over there.
Basically you can take in whatever car you like as long as you have owned and used it for a certain period in the UK first.
Depending on the state you want to register it in then you may have to make some small changes, just check with them direct, you should find all the info on google
Costs about £1500 to ship in a dedicated 20' container from the UK.
Budget about 50% of the cars value in import duties etc though, as they like to screw you for that, its based on the purchase invoice, and reduces depending on how long you have owned the car.
If you have not bought one yet, then find a car with aircon, its a must over there.
Last edited by PAUL S; 22-05-2014 at 08:36 PM.
22-05-2014, 09:47 PM
#7
PassionFord Post Whore!!
When I lived in Adelaide, South Australia I had an Australian made Mk 1 V6 3.0 Ford Capri which I wanted to modify. I spent quite a lot on performance parts from England which I had to pay import duty on.
The car had lowered suspension, twin S/S exhausts, stage 3 heads , Holley 4 barrel carb etc. It looked and sounded good.
One Sunday I was out for a drive doing nothing wrong and I got pulled over by the Police. The cop said he stopped me because he thought the car looked like it was modified. He produced a book with all the Capri factory specifications in it and started measuring wheel track width etc and poking about under the bonnet.
The upshot was, the car had what they call a defect sticker stuck on the windscreen which meant I had to put the car back to standard or face a large fine. As you can imagine I was not happy to say the least!!!
I ended up re-selling the parts back to someone in the UK and learnt a bitter lesson !!!
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23-05-2014, 07:20 AM
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Thread Starter
Ok ...now i have a definitive answer......Spoke to the Australian Government (Vehicle Import dept) and that say i cant import a Cosworth that was manufactured without an airbag . only the small turbo cosworth is allowed ?!
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
23-05-2014, 08:30 AM
#12
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Ok ...now i have a definitive answer......Spoke to the Australian Government (Vehicle Import dept) and that say i cant import a Cosworth that was manufactured without an airbag . only the small turbo cosworth is allowed ?!
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
Last edited by cossynut2; 23-05-2014 at 08:41 AM. Reason: Added a bit more.
23-05-2014, 09:02 AM
#13
Andy look at my thread as to how strict they are about modifications! I was in Adelaide a couple of years ago and went to a big car show with my Brother-in law . There were a lot of nice cars there , all makes, saw one Sapphire Cosworth only, a standard 4x4 with no modifications, no Escort Cosworths, no 3 door Cosworths but quite a few older Fords, Escorts, Cortinas and Capris. On the way out of the show the Police were busy booking lots of cars that they thought didnt look standard!! My Brother-in -law said that was fairly normal!!
23-05-2014, 10:53 AM
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Thread Starter
here is a post i found trawling the internet off the RX8 forum :-----
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Here in Victoria mods are quite restricted.
Below is my understanding (check first as I have been wrong before).
1. Changing/adding forced inductions - Changing I believe you are allowed one mod to the intake, but all plumbing must remain stock. Adding FI I think will kill emissions and therefore be unroadworthy. Any serious hp mod will require an engineers cert
2. Running with/without a catalytic convertor (emissions) - Thats a no no.
3. suspension, shocks, springs, coilovers, sway bars, end links etc...any height restrictions - Springs/shocks are free for all. Minimum height of any part of the car is 100mm. They have a 100mm cube and pass it under the car. If it hits anything you fail
4. Exhaust (sound/size restrictions?) - There is a noise level. Don't know what is is
5. ECU modifications - None, under any circumstances.
6. Brakes - Apart from pads and fluid an engineers cert is required.
7. Body kits (including widebody and cutting of stock fenders) - Not sure. I think go for it
8. tire/wheel change restrictions! - 25mm increase in wheel size in either direction
Then I've read about getting engineering certificates and things of the sort, what is the difficulty in getting one of those? - Vicroads has a list of automotive engineers. Go visit one an he will check your mods and if he approves you get a certificate (for a cost of course). From my understanding they are generally quite reasonable to deal with.
I hope I'm not asking too much! - Not yet
Thanks! - Is ok
In reality most people just go for it. If your car does not stand out too much and you don't drive like a dick you are generally ok.
Hope this helps
Matt
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Here in Victoria mods are quite restricted.
Below is my understanding (check first as I have been wrong before).
1. Changing/adding forced inductions - Changing I believe you are allowed one mod to the intake, but all plumbing must remain stock. Adding FI I think will kill emissions and therefore be unroadworthy. Any serious hp mod will require an engineers cert
2. Running with/without a catalytic convertor (emissions) - Thats a no no.
3. suspension, shocks, springs, coilovers, sway bars, end links etc...any height restrictions - Springs/shocks are free for all. Minimum height of any part of the car is 100mm. They have a 100mm cube and pass it under the car. If it hits anything you fail
4. Exhaust (sound/size restrictions?) - There is a noise level. Don't know what is is
5. ECU modifications - None, under any circumstances.
6. Brakes - Apart from pads and fluid an engineers cert is required.
7. Body kits (including widebody and cutting of stock fenders) - Not sure. I think go for it
8. tire/wheel change restrictions! - 25mm increase in wheel size in either direction
Then I've read about getting engineering certificates and things of the sort, what is the difficulty in getting one of those? - Vicroads has a list of automotive engineers. Go visit one an he will check your mods and if he approves you get a certificate (for a cost of course). From my understanding they are generally quite reasonable to deal with.
I hope I'm not asking too much! - Not yet
Thanks! - Is ok
In reality most people just go for it. If your car does not stand out too much and you don't drive like a dick you are generally ok.
Hope this helps
Matt
23-05-2014, 11:41 AM
#16
PassionFord Post Whore!!
here is a post i found trawling the internet off the RX8 forum :-----
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here in Victoria mods are quite restricted.
Below is my understanding (check first as I have been wrong before).
1. Changing/adding forced inductions - Changing I believe you are allowed one mod to the intake, but all plumbing must remain stock. Adding FI I think will kill emissions and therefore be unroadworthy. Any serious hp mod will require an engineers cert
2. Running with/without a catalytic convertor (emissions) - Thats a no no.
3. suspension, shocks, springs, coilovers, sway bars, end links etc...any height restrictions - Springs/shocks are free for all. Minimum height of any part of the car is 100mm. They have a 100mm cube and pass it under the car. If it hits anything you fail
4. Exhaust (sound/size restrictions?) - There is a noise level. Don't know what is is
5. ECU modifications - None, under any circumstances.
6. Brakes - Apart from pads and fluid an engineers cert is required.
7. Body kits (including widebody and cutting of stock fenders) - Not sure. I think go for it
8. tire/wheel change restrictions! - 25mm increase in wheel size in either direction
Then I've read about getting engineering certificates and things of the sort, what is the difficulty in getting one of those? - Vicroads has a list of automotive engineers. Go visit one an he will check your mods and if he approves you get a certificate (for a cost of course). From my understanding they are generally quite reasonable to deal with.
I hope I'm not asking too much! - Not yet
Thanks! - Is ok
In reality most people just go for it. If your car does not stand out too much and you don't drive like a dick you are generally ok.
Hope this helps
Matt
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here in Victoria mods are quite restricted.
Below is my understanding (check first as I have been wrong before).
1. Changing/adding forced inductions - Changing I believe you are allowed one mod to the intake, but all plumbing must remain stock. Adding FI I think will kill emissions and therefore be unroadworthy. Any serious hp mod will require an engineers cert
2. Running with/without a catalytic convertor (emissions) - Thats a no no.
3. suspension, shocks, springs, coilovers, sway bars, end links etc...any height restrictions - Springs/shocks are free for all. Minimum height of any part of the car is 100mm. They have a 100mm cube and pass it under the car. If it hits anything you fail
4. Exhaust (sound/size restrictions?) - There is a noise level. Don't know what is is
5. ECU modifications - None, under any circumstances.
6. Brakes - Apart from pads and fluid an engineers cert is required.
7. Body kits (including widebody and cutting of stock fenders) - Not sure. I think go for it
8. tire/wheel change restrictions! - 25mm increase in wheel size in either direction
Then I've read about getting engineering certificates and things of the sort, what is the difficulty in getting one of those? - Vicroads has a list of automotive engineers. Go visit one an he will check your mods and if he approves you get a certificate (for a cost of course). From my understanding they are generally quite reasonable to deal with.
I hope I'm not asking too much! - Not yet
Thanks! - Is ok
In reality most people just go for it. If your car does not stand out too much and you don't drive like a dick you are generally ok.
Hope this helps
Matt
Years ago It WAS like here, people did all sorts of things to their cars and you could buy all the upgraded parts there. I had a 1600e Cortina with a stage 3 engine ,twin 40s etc and never had any problems with the Police but then it all changed unfortunately.
My Sapphire Cosworth I own would never be allowed on the road there!!
23-05-2014, 06:51 PM
#17
Ok ...now i have a definitive answer......Spoke to the Australian Government (Vehicle Import dept) and that say i cant import a Cosworth that was manufactured without an airbag . only the small turbo cosworth is allowed ?!
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
And to top it off they are really strict on car mods out there aswell
so looks like she will be staying here
Completely wrong info they have provided you, what you need to look into the personal import info, they are quoting the general rules if you want to import a car outside of the amnesty you have for taking your own car there if your emigrating i.e an aussie trying to buy and bring a car into Aus having not first used it abroad
I took a 3dr cosworth out to Aus years ago under the personal import process and did look into importing them into Aus at the time as well.
23-05-2014, 07:11 PM
#18
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23-05-2014, 08:26 PM
#19
A very good friend of mine moved to Oz in November last year. He was able to take his E30 M3's with him. As you can see from the pic this one doesn't match much of the criteria from the ops first post so there must be ways.
Last edited by Nick.W; 23-05-2014 at 08:45 PM.
23-05-2014, 08:55 PM
#23
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Maybe if you are emigrating you can take a car with loads of modifications but I think you would still run into problems.
24-05-2014, 01:51 AM
#28
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I bought my Escort RS Cosworth from a bloke who brought it in under the personal import scheme.
Before buying the car, I looked at the option of bringing one over myself and having it complianced, to get a good idea of landed value of these vehicles.
The import requirements are Commonwealth requirements. Registration is under state requirements. Modifications rules are similar Australia wide with some individual state rules.
Mine passed through compliance with 3" exhaust, cone filter, GGR chip, 18x8's, and morretes.
Talking to the government department is a waste of time, better off talking to the companies the government has authorised to comply vehicles.
Here's some links to places that can provide the service.
If you own the car already, then the Personal Import process is the way to go. Better tax wise as far as I know.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/info/Personal-imports
If you import one that you don't own, then it will be under the SEVS scheme.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/wiki/Ford/E...osworth/id-182
j-spec quoted me a lot less than chalker.
http://www.chalker.com.au/compliancing%20-%20RAWS.htm
Or you could buy one that is already here.
http://www.chalker.com.au/For%20Sale.htm
You have not said where you will be moving to in Australia, It would be easiest to deal with a RAWS compliance service in that state.
You need to contact compliance companies and tell them you have a 1992 ford escort rs cosworth, what mods are done, and ask about personal import vs SEVS for your circumstances.
Aussie customs don't want dirt and other contaminants risking our eco-system, hence some of the odd requirements.
My car has a 'mod plate' on it for one of the mods to the car. Modifications can be done here to an extent. Some do not require a 'mod plate', some do. If a modification requires a mod plate then certification is done by state sanctioned companies who issue a blue rectangular ally plate with numbers stamped on it. Typically the plate goes in the engine bay somewhere.
Where people get grief from police, is when having mods that require certification, but no mod plate on the vehicle.
I also have a 1972 Mk1 Escort, it's allowed a turbo, EFI etc. etc. so long as I get certification and fit the mod plate.
Talk to the import certifier about your mods. I don't think there is any 1 mod rule.
Did the 92 EsCos have a catalytic from the factory ?
Not quite. If the car is under 100mm clearance from the factory then it's OK. If it's under 100mm at the axle line then it may not fail either. Mine is under just 100mm at the front crossmember and arrived here that way.
90Db last I looked.
Another one of those state based mod plate certification requirements.
Rotors of the same size and mounting are fine. Once different rotors and callipers are done, then state level mod plate is required.
Some mods are allowed, but what would you really want to change on an EsCos.
Wheel regs have changed many times over the years. Currently, any width that fits under the fenders and keeps the track within 25mm of OEM is OK. This equates to up to 12.5mm difference in wheel offset from the factory offset. Overall diameter allowance used to be +-10%, now it's 15mm or something. I don't know if the 15mm is retrospective or not.
The LHD requirements have been relaxed recently.
Here is a link to my state governments requirements.
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Veh...fications.aspx
From a governance standpoint, we are over governed by wowsers. We have our selves to blame for being to chilled out and not marching in the streets demanding change. Meanwhile the wowsers moan endlessly about modified cars.
Before buying the car, I looked at the option of bringing one over myself and having it complianced, to get a good idea of landed value of these vehicles.
The import requirements are Commonwealth requirements. Registration is under state requirements. Modifications rules are similar Australia wide with some individual state rules.
Mine passed through compliance with 3" exhaust, cone filter, GGR chip, 18x8's, and morretes.
Talking to the government department is a waste of time, better off talking to the companies the government has authorised to comply vehicles.
Here's some links to places that can provide the service.
If you own the car already, then the Personal Import process is the way to go. Better tax wise as far as I know.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/info/Personal-imports
If you import one that you don't own, then it will be under the SEVS scheme.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/wiki/Ford/E...osworth/id-182
j-spec quoted me a lot less than chalker.
http://www.chalker.com.au/compliancing%20-%20RAWS.htm
Or you could buy one that is already here.
http://www.chalker.com.au/For%20Sale.htm
You have not said where you will be moving to in Australia, It would be easiest to deal with a RAWS compliance service in that state.
You need to contact compliance companies and tell them you have a 1992 ford escort rs cosworth, what mods are done, and ask about personal import vs SEVS for your circumstances.
Aussie customs don't want dirt and other contaminants risking our eco-system, hence some of the odd requirements.
My car has a 'mod plate' on it for one of the mods to the car. Modifications can be done here to an extent. Some do not require a 'mod plate', some do. If a modification requires a mod plate then certification is done by state sanctioned companies who issue a blue rectangular ally plate with numbers stamped on it. Typically the plate goes in the engine bay somewhere.
Where people get grief from police, is when having mods that require certification, but no mod plate on the vehicle.
1. Changing/adding forced inductions - Changing I believe you are allowed one mod to the intake, but all plumbing must remain stock. Adding FI I think will kill emissions and therefore be unroadworthy. Any serious hp mod will require an engineers cert
Talk to the import certifier about your mods. I don't think there is any 1 mod rule.
2. Running with/without a catalytic convertor (emissions) - Thats a no no.
3. suspension, shocks, springs, coilovers, sway bars, end links etc...any height restrictions - Springs/shocks are free for all. Minimum height of any part of the car is 100mm. They have a 100mm cube and pass it under the car. If it hits anything you fail
4. Exhaust (sound/size restrictions?) - There is a noise level. Don't know what is is
5. ECU modifications - None, under any circumstances.
6. Brakes - Apart from pads and fluid an engineers cert is required.
7. Body kits (including widebody and cutting of stock fenders) - Not sure. I think go for it
8. tire/wheel change restrictions! - 25mm increase in wheel size in either direction
The LHD requirements have been relaxed recently.
Here is a link to my state governments requirements.
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Veh...fications.aspx
From a governance standpoint, we are over governed by wowsers. We have our selves to blame for being to chilled out and not marching in the streets demanding change. Meanwhile the wowsers moan endlessly about modified cars.
24-05-2014, 08:47 AM
#30
PassionFord Post Whore!!
How would I get my 2wd Sapphire with 450bhp, lowered suspension, big brakes upgrade, 3inch exhaust, 17inch wheels etc passed? My brother-in-laws mate has got a nice looking Nissan Skyline which he told me has to stay factory standard.
It all seems a bit confusing as each State has its own interpretation of the rules
from what I can make out?
Cheers Richard.
24-05-2014, 10:24 AM
#31
Regular Contributor
Thread Starter
I bought my Escort RS Cosworth from a bloke who brought it in under the personal import scheme.
Before buying the car, I looked at the option of bringing one over myself and having it complianced, to get a good idea of landed value of these vehicles.
The import requirements are Commonwealth requirements. Registration is under state requirements. Modifications rules are similar Australia wide with some individual state rules.
Mine passed through compliance with 3" exhaust, cone filter, GGR chip, 18x8's, and morretes.
Talking to the government department is a waste of time, better off talking to the companies the government has authorised to comply vehicles.
Here's some links to places that can provide the service.
If you own the car already, then the Personal Import process is the way to go. Better tax wise as far as I know.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/info/Personal-imports
If you import one that you don't own, then it will be under the SEVS scheme.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/wiki/Ford/E...osworth/id-182
j-spec quoted me a lot less than chalker.
http://www.chalker.com.au/compliancing%20-%20RAWS.htm
Or you could buy one that is already here.
http://www.chalker.com.au/For%20Sale.htm
You have not said where you will be moving to in Australia, It would be easiest to deal with a RAWS compliance service in that state.
You need to contact compliance companies and tell them you have a 1992 ford escort rs cosworth, what mods are done, and ask about personal import vs SEVS for your circumstances.
Aussie customs don't want dirt and other contaminants risking our eco-system, hence some of the odd requirements.
My car has a 'mod plate' on it for one of the mods to the car. Modifications can be done here to an extent. Some do not require a 'mod plate', some do. If a modification requires a mod plate then certification is done by state sanctioned companies who issue a blue rectangular ally plate with numbers stamped on it. Typically the plate goes in the engine bay somewhere.
Where people get grief from police, is when having mods that require certification, but no mod plate on the vehicle.
I also have a 1972 Mk1 Escort, it's allowed a turbo, EFI etc. etc. so long as I get certification and fit the mod plate.
Talk to the import certifier about your mods. I don't think there is any 1 mod rule.
Did the 92 EsCos have a catalytic from the factory ?
Not quite. If the car is under 100mm clearance from the factory then it's OK. If it's under 100mm at the axle line then it may not fail either. Mine is under just 100mm at the front crossmember and arrived here that way.
90Db last I looked.
Another one of those state based mod plate certification requirements.
Rotors of the same size and mounting are fine. Once different rotors and callipers are done, then state level mod plate is required.
Some mods are allowed, but what would you really want to change on an EsCos.
Wheel regs have changed many times over the years. Currently, any width that fits under the fenders and keeps the track within 25mm of OEM is OK. This equates to up to 12.5mm difference in wheel offset from the factory offset. Overall diameter allowance used to be +-10%, now it's 15mm or something. I don't know if the 15mm is retrospective or not.
The LHD requirements have been relaxed recently.
Here is a link to my state governments requirements.
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Veh...fications.aspx
From a governance standpoint, we are over governed by wowsers. We have our selves to blame for being to chilled out and not marching in the streets demanding change. Meanwhile the wowsers moan endlessly about modified cars.
Before buying the car, I looked at the option of bringing one over myself and having it complianced, to get a good idea of landed value of these vehicles.
The import requirements are Commonwealth requirements. Registration is under state requirements. Modifications rules are similar Australia wide with some individual state rules.
Mine passed through compliance with 3" exhaust, cone filter, GGR chip, 18x8's, and morretes.
Talking to the government department is a waste of time, better off talking to the companies the government has authorised to comply vehicles.
Here's some links to places that can provide the service.
If you own the car already, then the Personal Import process is the way to go. Better tax wise as far as I know.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/info/Personal-imports
If you import one that you don't own, then it will be under the SEVS scheme.
http://www.j-spec.com.au/wiki/Ford/E...osworth/id-182
j-spec quoted me a lot less than chalker.
http://www.chalker.com.au/compliancing%20-%20RAWS.htm
Or you could buy one that is already here.
http://www.chalker.com.au/For%20Sale.htm
You have not said where you will be moving to in Australia, It would be easiest to deal with a RAWS compliance service in that state.
You need to contact compliance companies and tell them you have a 1992 ford escort rs cosworth, what mods are done, and ask about personal import vs SEVS for your circumstances.
Aussie customs don't want dirt and other contaminants risking our eco-system, hence some of the odd requirements.
My car has a 'mod plate' on it for one of the mods to the car. Modifications can be done here to an extent. Some do not require a 'mod plate', some do. If a modification requires a mod plate then certification is done by state sanctioned companies who issue a blue rectangular ally plate with numbers stamped on it. Typically the plate goes in the engine bay somewhere.
Where people get grief from police, is when having mods that require certification, but no mod plate on the vehicle.
I also have a 1972 Mk1 Escort, it's allowed a turbo, EFI etc. etc. so long as I get certification and fit the mod plate.
Talk to the import certifier about your mods. I don't think there is any 1 mod rule.
Did the 92 EsCos have a catalytic from the factory ?
Not quite. If the car is under 100mm clearance from the factory then it's OK. If it's under 100mm at the axle line then it may not fail either. Mine is under just 100mm at the front crossmember and arrived here that way.
90Db last I looked.
Another one of those state based mod plate certification requirements.
Rotors of the same size and mounting are fine. Once different rotors and callipers are done, then state level mod plate is required.
Some mods are allowed, but what would you really want to change on an EsCos.
Wheel regs have changed many times over the years. Currently, any width that fits under the fenders and keeps the track within 25mm of OEM is OK. This equates to up to 12.5mm difference in wheel offset from the factory offset. Overall diameter allowance used to be +-10%, now it's 15mm or something. I don't know if the 15mm is retrospective or not.
The LHD requirements have been relaxed recently.
Here is a link to my state governments requirements.
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Veh...fications.aspx
From a governance standpoint, we are over governed by wowsers. We have our selves to blame for being to chilled out and not marching in the streets demanding change. Meanwhile the wowsers moan endlessly about modified cars.
Chalker said that he couldnt import the Ecos unless it was the small turbo version fitted with a driver and passenger airbag .He advised that i would be better going for a personal import option to get it through
J spec however said that he had looked into it for me and said that the big turbo version due to the fact it ad no airbags would not be allowed in .....has nothing to do with the fact it has a bigger turbo it seems from what J spec told me that the issue is with the NON airbag ?
When i spoke to the australian govenment they were very breif if there response as they said i would have to make a formal request into it via a (vehicle import applcation) and pay the fee before they would give me a concrete answer. They also said if they refused it then i could lodge a letter stipulating why i think it should be brought into the country.
It is starting to tick me off a bit as ive got my Ecos and 2010 Range Rover Autobiography which i would take out with me but i can only import 1 every 5yrs. So either i put one in storage for 5yrs or i sell 1 ? but on the face of it i stand more chance of importing my RR than the Ecos and to be honest ide rather sell the RR and import the Ecos.
Also Chalker did mention in breif about the police being so on top with the modifications on cars and the slightest thing that looks out of place they will pull you and go over the car ...doesnt have to be anything special ...could just be alloys. He also mentioned dump valves are one big way to get the police's attention.
I am moving to Brisbane which is in Queensland
24-05-2014, 10:27 AM
#32
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Ide love to know how he managed to get that through as ive been told that anything on the car that isnt standard from factory has to be removed and put back to standard before they will allow it in and if you want to put the parts back on when it in they you do so at your own risk ? <<----I know this is true under (SEVS) but not sure about a personal import as the AUS GOV were very breif in explaining anything uness i made a formal application.
24-05-2014, 10:58 AM
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Ide love to know how he managed to get that through as ive been told that anything on the car that isnt standard from factory has to be removed and put back to standard before they will allow it in and if you want to put the parts back on when it in they you do so at your own risk ? <<----I know this is true under (SEVS) but not sure about a personal import as the AUS GOV were very breif in explaining anything uness i made a formal application.
24-05-2014, 11:04 AM
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basically the moral of the story is simply .......DONT bother importing a car into australia becasue its a ball ache and if its something that stands out you will have continuous hassle from the plod
24-05-2014, 11:08 AM
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http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/veh...tions/pis.aspx
the ammount of things that are needed to satisfy the government in order to just ask them if your vehicle is eligeable to be imported are rediculessly long !
the ammount of things that are needed to satisfy the government in order to just ask them if your vehicle is eligeable to be imported are rediculessly long !
24-05-2014, 12:20 PM
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http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/veh...tions/pis.aspx
the ammount of things that are needed to satisfy the government in order to just ask them if your vehicle is eligeable to be imported are rediculessly long !
the ammount of things that are needed to satisfy the government in order to just ask them if your vehicle is eligeable to be imported are rediculessly long !
24-05-2014, 02:15 PM
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Police don't seem as humourless here as what you and other South Aussies recount. I've had no issue in two and a half years with the EsCos. My Mk1 has been looked over, but it is legally modified so end of discussion.
What exactly are you allowed to do that the compliance company will pass ?
How would I get my 2wd Sapphire with 450bhp, lowered suspension, big brakes upgrade, 3inch exhaust, 17inch wheels etc passed?
The bloke I bought the EsCos from, has a modified saph he imported after he sold me the EsCos.
For state registration, the SA state government should be able to provide a list of certifiers for modifications. At least that is how it works in Queensland. There are current model cars having turbo's and supers fitted here that are certified. Tweaking an already turbo car is a lessor deal.
It all seems a bit confusing as each State has its own interpretation of the rules
from what I can make out?
Cheers Richard.
from what I can make out?
Cheers Richard.
24-05-2014, 02:18 PM
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I took a 3dr cosworth out to Aus years ago under the personal import process and did look into importing them into Aus at the time as well.
how much of a pain was it to do ? was yours a big or small turbo model
how much of a pain was it to do ? was yours a big or small turbo model
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24-05-2014, 02:24 PM
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I think if you can afford it you will be better off buying an EScos in Australia. The ones that are for sale there will have to be fully road legal already, but of course how you buy it will have to be how it stays! Now you have told us you are going to Queensland I can say for sure air-con is a must unless you want to sweat your balls off! Queensland is a lot more humid than other States, raining at 30 degrees etc.
The problem i seem to be facing when looking for a Ecos in Aus is that the ones that you do seem to find (rocking horse s**t) are all small turbo models
found one there $60,000 = £32,892
Money side of things getting it there isnt the issue ,its getting it there
24-05-2014, 02:53 PM
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The governments own document says 92-97 so no restriction on version.
http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/182-00.htm
J spec however said that he had looked into it for me and said that the big turbo version due to the fact it ad no airbags would not be allowed in .....has nothing to do with the fact it has a bigger turbo it seems from what J spec told me that the issue is with the NON airbag ?
Look through this site, and the agents listing. Phone numbers beginning with (07) are Queensland numbers.
http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/
When i spoke to the australian govenment they were very breif if there response as they said i would have to make a formal request into it via a (vehicle import applcation) and pay the fee before they would give me a concrete answer. They also said if they refused it then i could lodge a letter stipulating why i think it should be brought into the country.
I'd suggest you speak to them again highlighting to them the car is under SEVS 182/00 and ask about personal import vs SEVS.
Reading the RVCS site linked above, a RAWS company would be easier than trying to do the process yourself.
It is starting to tick me off a bit as ive got my Ecos and 2010 Range Rover Autobiography which i would take out with me but i can only import 1 every 5yrs. So either i put one in storage for 5yrs or i sell 1 ? but on the face of it i stand more chance of importing my RR than the Ecos and to be honest ide rather sell the RR and import the Ecos.
Also Chalker did mention in breif about the police being so on top with the modifications on cars and the slightest thing that looks out of place they will pull you and go over the car ...doesnt have to be anything special ...could just be alloys. He also mentioned dump valves are one big way to get the police's attention.
I am moving to Brisbane which is in Queensland
I am moving to Brisbane which is in Queensland
Yes dump valves that vent to atmosphere get attention from everybody, including police. Recirculating types aren't so attention seeking.