Rax

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I was not there and only just seen this video.
I couldnt make my mind up whether it clipped the parked car at first or it sounded like something broke on it sending him across the road.That would be my excuse anyway

If you own anything rwd with a bit of power you should expect a bit of wheelspin and the odd sideways action if trying to boot it so to me either he was way to close to the parked cars or its the wrong car for that driver.

Paul_RS

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What I see as happening


1. RWD S1 boots it
2. Driver runs out of talent when it goes a bit sideways.
3. Hits first parked car.
4. Bounces into the path of the oncoming car
5. Destruction ensues

S1 driver is 100% at fault.

Fiddy

Hear it come on boost out of shot, by the time he comes into shot, he's already lifted off, he clips something, then careers into the oncoming car. I think the begining of the ensuing fuckery begins before he even comes into shot, if I had to give an opinion, I'd say when you hear it come on boost, he's lost control, and by the time he comes into shot, he's a passenger. Pitty there isn't vid of the whole thing, because IMO, the video shows the outcome, not the cause.

cutch

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If anyone knows the owner tell him i will make him an offer on the car as it is.

david 100

Why drive like a twat in the first place.

BRAMMER

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Anyone else think it sounds odd, boosts up but not going overly quick at all deffo not quick enough for the tail to step out - does it actually hit the Astra GSi of did something on the steering give way as the car swerves too quickly to the opposite side, the Audi then hit the other car's now i'm sure if thats the case the other car is liable for those vehicles like being in a line and being shunted from the rear and a domino effect the last car isn't liable for all vehicles damaged?

I've heard though the driver of the S1 left the scene is that true?

ajamesc

Sounds to me like it was going Some on boost and spinning up then hit the black car most of that vid was let off as he lost control I think that's the only reason it looks as if he was not going fast. I'd have been furious if I was in the other car

gingerturbo

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Before I even see the video someone had said he hit an astra causing him to loose it, I he couldn't of bin going that fast but don't mean he Wernt on full boost as they were only standing a few yards from the round a bout

dojj

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at the time there was all sorts of talk by "internet experts" about how fast it was going to have sustained so much damage

when you see the video though he only has a full front end shunt at around 20 mph, regardless of what you hear in the video because he could argue that it wasn't him

he's put his hands up and fair play to him, but i'm fairly shocked to see how much damage a relatively minor prang caused

bigchez

30 year old fords are not something you'd want to crash in at any speed! Shame as was prob a nice car beforehand.

JamesH

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A lot of damage there. Did it have a Cossie floor pan? Makes you wonder about the structural integrity of cars that have had that amount of work done. The windscreen came out too? What did the police do?

3i Jim

Old escorts don't crash well. And it has a cage in it the audi don't look to bad considering.

Thrush

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Gotta laugh at this thread! Cos it's a Ford, and was at a Ford night, everyone's all "oh it was only a low speed crash", "it was innocent and harmless", and "it was just a lapse of judgement" - if this had been a different car like a Vauxhall, VW, Audi, whatever, and had hit one of the visiting Ford cars, everyone would be screaming about how irresponsible the driver was, what a dick for driving like that on the road, and how much of a prick he/she is

And fuck off, that ain't no 20mph impact. Also, that screen isn't coming out at 20mph without person or airbag assist, and as we know, the S1 doesn't have airbags - so unless the driver or passenger wasn't wearing a seat belt.....

carlo

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You can clearly hear the car getting it lit just before it clips the astra so its not a harmless incident mistake showing off yes

3i Jim

Tbh that escort is'nt going fast at the point of impact. Say for argument sake, he was doing 20mph and the audi was doing 20mph that would be an impact speed of 40mph. You can sneeze on an escort and do that sort of damage

davidfox280585

I agree with you the sierras don't fair much better at speed

matts1

Just sounds/looks like he gave it beans, back end started to go, he let off and clipped the back end on the astra and drifted into the oncoming car.

Gutter but I have done far more stupid things and i bet the majority on he have either driven exactly like that or done worse.

3i Jim

And that's in kph.

stevieturbo

Bad luck...for the car that got hit.

Whoever is driving the S1 is a bellend for attempting in a manner clearly beyond his abilities.

Say it all the time, speed isnt the killer, incompetent bellends are.

rizla

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Gutted for him

rizla

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Well said mate

dojj

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as i said right at the start, i don't know the car or the driver and the video shows a slow impact, whatever it is in

the fact that it's damaged the car in such a way as to suggest the impact was more like 70 mph is whats the biggest worry

stevieturbo

20mph into a car doing the same in the opposite direction is stall a fair impact

As for the screen, it's just a rubber seal holding it in, not exactly difficult to remove. It's not like a modern bonded in car screen

And the fact the car has a cage, means any softer parts at the front end will crumple even more as there are less crumple zones

Damage doesnt look anything particularly strange.

How badly was the innocent persons car damaged ?

BRAMMER

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Ive seen more pics on fb and looks like the windscreen was on the bonnet of the audi as the steering wheel in the escort has forced it out look at where the wheel is. Makes you wonder how strong the sierra floor pans in old Escorts have any strength, often wondered why some do very little in the engine bay compared to the old Gartrac conversion which had massive box turrets

davidfox280585

I've seen a few pics and this looked like a gartac car by the turrets

dojj

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the steering wheel has moved upwards and is almost poking out of the windscreen hole stevie, and the huge amount of deformation in the front of the car would point to the build being a bit suspect at the very least, or that some of the car was designed to deform in that way, but certainly looks like the bulkhead was nowhere near strong enough to have saved the driver had it been any faster

early reports were that the driver had followed the windscreen out onto the road too....

xr2mk2turbo

Such a shame, was the driver hurt because as stated that steering wheel has moved a lot, a little harder and that may have been game over.

Glenn_

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Thats proper fooked. It doesn't look like a 20 mph crash to me.

Thrush

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Thanks for schooling me on windscreens, it's not like I do them for a living or anything

Thrush

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That clears that up then. As I said, that screen isn't popping out on it's own at such a "low" (alleged) speed

stevieturbo

All parts of the car are usually designed to crumple, other than those around the passenger cabin.

Obviously it's an old car and a modified car. So who knows what way the steering column was mounted, or whether there was any facility for it to collapse in an accident.

The passenger cabin is largely intact, probably helped by the cage.

But overall, I dont see the damage as anything unexpected ? When people modify cars in such a manner, inbuilt safety features may be compromised, especially for road cars where corners are usually cut compared to full motorsport vehicles.

That's just the reality. Plus it's a 30 year old car to start with, so not like the shell is a shining example of structural strength and design against crashing

stevieturbo

No problem, then you know how easy they come out

And that's assuming it was even fitted correctly.

Cossy Mike

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Looks like the offside wheel gave up to me, locking up and dragging it across the road.

Offside balljoint give way maybe??

Cossie.jack

Couldn't agree more

Thrush

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I do, yes. Hence why I could say that it wouldn't just pop out like that, unassisted, in a head on crash at that sort of speed.

If it was fitted incorrectly, chances are it would have come out well before then, or at the very least cracked, leaked and allowed wind noise, all of which would be very noticeable to the driver, who I'd have assumed would have put it right. With indirect glazed glass, it's either in or it's not. That is, the rubber is either lipped over the aperture, or it isn't - there isn't a middle ground, so to speak.

GVK.

More conspiracy theories on this than missing flight MH370

Thrush

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That's cos we know what happened to that - aliens took it!

RSTdude

i seen the vid this morning and went ohh shit after seeing it slide slightly n hit the oncoming car just hope nobody is hurt

Psycho Warren

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difference is most people have the common fucking sense not to do it down a narrow road with cars parked both sides.

Overconfidence and lack of common fucking sense caused the crash.

Sinbad

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If 2 cars hit head on at 30mph then the combined impact is 60mph, the Escort has just peeled back like a can (poor build or age related ?)

It's quite possible he blipped it coming off the roundabout causing it to step out rather than waiting till he was in a straight line ? Folk were doing it all night but sadly on this occasion it went wrong

Hopefully no one was hurt, cars can be repaired.