cosworth for sale missing the vital part that makes it a cosworth lol
16-03-2014, 11:35 PM
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You cannot say something is no good just because it's old, the engineering was far ahead of anything at the time and made many milestones along the way.
For a alleged 'fan' he seems to have missed the point that he is not selling a Cosworth!
Martin
For a alleged 'fan' he seems to have missed the point that he is not selling a Cosworth!
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17-03-2014, 01:33 AM
#43
Im building what some people will call a rep, its a standard 1.8 GLX Sapphire shell, will have the full YB running gear fitted, engine, Gearbox, etc, a mix and match interior to my of Recaro's and XR4x4 Doorcards / Dash, done out of choice not being a cheapskate. Will be running a cosworth bodykit and a set of TSW Evo-R's as I love them..
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
17-03-2014, 07:44 AM
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Im building what some people will call a rep, its a standard 1.8 GLX Sapphire shell, will have the full YB running gear fitted, engine, Gearbox, etc, a mix and match interior to my of Recaro's and XR4x4 Doorcards / Dash, done out of choice not being a cheapskate. Will be running a cosworth bodykit and a set of TSW Evo-R's as I love them..
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
17-03-2014, 05:49 PM
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The Saab engine is an incredibly good lump. It powers the fastest 4 cylinder drag car in the world for a start.
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3046644
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3046644
17-03-2014, 05:53 PM
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I think it's cool. Might even have a bid.
I like engine swaps. I put an integra type r engine in my mi4 escort. My mates now putting a 2.3 rwd Volvo turbo in the same car.
Cus there cheap and we had them lying around.
If I was building a saph and wanted 300 bhp I wouldn't use a Yb either
I like engine swaps. I put an integra type r engine in my mi4 escort. My mates now putting a 2.3 rwd Volvo turbo in the same car.
Cus there cheap and we had them lying around.
If I was building a saph and wanted 300 bhp I wouldn't use a Yb either
17-03-2014, 06:07 PM
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What you are doing with your project sounds good, what I said yesterday, Ford cars should have Ford engines and as you have rightly said you are not trying to make out its a genuine Sapphire Cosworth. It doesnt matter how you look at it mateys Saab converted thing is no longer a proper Sapphire Cosworth!!
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
I think it's cool. Might even have a bid.
I like engine swaps. I put an integra type r engine in my mi4 escort. My mates now putting a 2.3 rwd Volvo turbo in the same car.
Cus there cheap and we had them lying around.
If I was building a saph and wanted 300 bhp I wouldn't use a Yb either
I like engine swaps. I put an integra type r engine in my mi4 escort. My mates now putting a 2.3 rwd Volvo turbo in the same car.
Cus there cheap and we had them lying around.
If I was building a saph and wanted 300 bhp I wouldn't use a Yb either
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
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17-03-2014, 06:33 PM
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17-03-2014, 06:53 PM
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Some (normal) people dont care what make the engine is or whether or not its a "real" cosworth anymore. They just want there shitbox sierra to go fast.
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
A k20 won't quite simply.
And a f20 is a veeeeeery tall engine.
17-03-2014, 07:14 PM
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What you are doing with your project sounds good, what I said yesterday, Ford cars should have Ford engines and as you have rightly said you are not trying to make out its a genuine Sapphire Cosworth. It doesnt matter how you look at it mateys Saab converted thing is no longer a proper Sapphire Cosworth!!
Just because you haven't seen one before does that make it a bad idea? No, it means that perhaps it hasn't been tried before because 99% of people will happily follow tried and tested and not dare to be different. I fall into that bracket myself.
Too many ford blinkers on this site. If you are that much of a purist, sod off to the rsoc. They will bum you on there.
This site is passionford (passionbmw also) the car is still a sierra cosworth no matter what fucking lump is under the bonnet. my van runs an rs engine but it is still just a van.
17-03-2014, 07:20 PM
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Some (normal) people dont care what make the engine is or whether or not its a "real" cosworth anymore. They just want there shitbox sierra to go fast.
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
17-03-2014, 07:31 PM
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But if you have pictures of your car I would be really interested in seeing them.
What planet are you on?" People dont care what engine they have in their shitbox Sierra any more" Ask anyone who owns and takes pride in their Sierra Cosworth ,3 door or Sapphire Cosworth if they would prefer it with a Saab or Volvo engine in it!! As for power ,have you actually ever driven or been in a well modified 400+ bhp Cosworth? I must presume not from the stupid comments you have been making!!!!
Ive been In much faster and more powerful cars that a 400bhp cosworth thanks for asking though.
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17-03-2014, 09:01 PM
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Its not a case of being blinkered, but if you want to do that sort of conversion buy an old sierra 2 litre and put it in that to make a different car. A sapphire Cosworth should have a YB engine in it. If not take the boot badges off and call it something else because it is NOT a proper Sapphire Cosworth any more. It will also devalue it by loads!
. Its a blo*dy car you can do what you like to it even set fire to it if thats what you want to do. Too many people on here think a Cosworth is far more important than it is. Its a 25 year old Ford that was outdated 15 years ago.I have a Mustang box & a Jaguar Diff in mine not sure what badges to fit to keep to your rules
. Can a bigger engine be fitted under your rules lets say a V10 or V12 so that decent Power can be made. What mods make it not a proper Sapphire Cosworth I need a more accurate rule book to see if i need to disgard my badges
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17-03-2014, 09:45 PM
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Well said Rod..!
If cosies (of all descriptions) were so great, sites like this wouldn't exist.. All of this exists because everyone is trying to make them 'better' in some shape or form for what we believe in or want to do with them.
There's some epic builds out there with plenty of non Ford parts in them; Compomotive wheels, quaife gearbox internals, non original turbos, exhausts… the list goes on. Is the engine block so important? Maybe to some, but there's very few completely standard Cossies around that get driven and enjoyed, so where do you draw a line?
The answer is if the car's not yours, the line isn't yours to draw..
If cosies (of all descriptions) were so great, sites like this wouldn't exist.. All of this exists because everyone is trying to make them 'better' in some shape or form for what we believe in or want to do with them.
There's some epic builds out there with plenty of non Ford parts in them; Compomotive wheels, quaife gearbox internals, non original turbos, exhausts… the list goes on. Is the engine block so important? Maybe to some, but there's very few completely standard Cossies around that get driven and enjoyed, so where do you draw a line?
The answer is if the car's not yours, the line isn't yours to draw..
17-03-2014, 09:48 PM
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im all for different engines in cars and certainly do not at all sport a set of ford blinkers but in my opinion a sierra COSWORTH is only called such because of the one thing it has that is made by cosworth, the engine. without that engine in my eyes its just a sierra allthough yes there are far far better engines to put in one but to me it will no longer be a cosworth without a cosworth engine
17-03-2014, 10:30 PM
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im all for different engines in cars and certainly do not at all sport a set of ford blinkers but in my opinion a sierra COSWORTH is only called such because of the one thing it has that is made by cosworth, the engine. without that engine in my eyes its just a sierra allthough yes there are far far better engines to put in one but to me it will no longer be a cosworth without a cosworth engine
18-03-2014, 07:51 PM
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To be fair to the guy that looks like a lot of work he's put in and nicely all painted up with a lot of new bits. He must know what he's doing to get that far with it? I like engine conversions And things out of the norm, that's what it's all about surely? There's preservation and modification 
19-03-2014, 12:20 PM
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If it was me I think I'd badge it as a Sierra Aero Hot for the novelty lol. As for the engine being turd......have any of you been to Gatebil. You might see a couple of Saabs that'd change your mind. A yellow one in particular. The irony I think in his advert is that he's making a point of the coilpack which is possibly the most common fault on those engines lol. I guess if you don't like it you don't have to buy it. I think I'd rather a cossie lump myself but I'd be interested in this car rather than scoff at it. And if an engine makes the badge then all the escorts with Vauxhall c20xe could be badged cosworths because cosworth developed the heads. Just being pedantic lol.
19-03-2014, 08:11 PM
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im all for different engines in cars and certainly do not at all sport a set of ford AMBER blinkers but in my opinion a sierra COSWORTH is only called such because of the one thing it has that is made by cosworth, the engine. without that engine in my eyes its just a sierra allthough yes there are far far better engines to put in one but to me it will no longer be a cosworth without a cosworth engine
19-03-2014, 08:14 PM
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I know a guy who lives down nr Gatwick, he likes German cars but not their engines. So he puts Honda lumps in them. The purists hate it. 
So far, he's done a mk1 Golf with Integra engine, E30 BMW with S2000 engine/box, latest thing he's doing is a mk2 Golf with the S2000 engine and a type r 6 speed box.
So far, he's done a mk1 Golf with Integra engine, E30 BMW with S2000 engine/box, latest thing he's doing is a mk2 Golf with the S2000 engine and a type r 6 speed box.
20-03-2014, 07:49 PM
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Im building what some people will call a rep, its a standard 1.8 GLX Sapphire shell, will have the full YB running gear fitted, engine, Gearbox, etc, a mix and match interior to my of Recaro's and XR4x4 Doorcards / Dash, done out of choice not being a cheapskate. Will be running a cosworth bodykit and a set of TSW Evo-R's as I love them..
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
I may add a cosworth badge when the time comes, as it will run a cosworth engine, or I may not put any badges on, but for sure will never add a RS badge as that is not what it says on the logbook, If I put badges on it will be Sierra GLX Cosworth
That care, should not be called a cosworth, what does it have left made by cosworth? Sod all its a ford sierra with a bodykit and a GM engine... Maybe he should badge it Sierra RS Saab
20-03-2014, 09:02 PM
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20-03-2014, 09:39 PM
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Some (normal) people dont care what make the engine is or whether or not its a "real" cosworth anymore. They just want there shitbox sierra to go fast.
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
I personally would have used a f20c engine from an s2000, but the sabb engine is still good, and better value for money that a 16v pinto.
People actually remove C20let engines to fit the sabb engine, because its cheaper and stronger, so id say the sabb engine was better.
Do you have any pics of the b18 escort you could post ?
Looked into fitting a b18 or k20 into my fiesta before. Would be interesting to see how it fits into a mk4 escort shell
As for the 16v pinto comment yes your right but try going out in one of them 16v pintos with 600bhp! helmet
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20-03-2014, 09:51 PM
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Yes they are very quick mate! I'm a fan of all cars and I'm fully aware of the fact the yb is a very old engine now.
And yes there's far better out there with evo engines big v8's and some 6 pot turbo jap stuff. But people who dismiss the yb as still being up there really don't know what there talking about lol and would get there eyes well and truly opened in a modern spec 600bhp yb powered car! And compearing one against an old vaxhall or saab engine lol ok then
And yes there's far better out there with evo engines big v8's and some 6 pot turbo jap stuff. But people who dismiss the yb as still being up there really don't know what there talking about lol and would get there eyes well and truly opened in a modern spec 600bhp yb powered car! And compearing one against an old vaxhall or saab engine lol ok then
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20-03-2014, 09:58 PM
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