fraser9764

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As above really, Is it possible?
I want to run eccentric top mounts to gain a load of castor, but i want to keep with konis instead of running coilovers.
most adjustable top mounts fit under the turret and are flat rather than fitting into the raised section in the centre of the standard turret, so i guess the top spring platform is lowered and the ride height increased?

Jay,

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With your power why do you want to stay with a average shock and a bad spring mate

Staffi

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Disagree Jay, mine's superb on this setup, coil overs on it were shocking. Spot on for a road car imo

Jay,

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A low powered car maybe but a none progressive spring will be crap on a powerful car unless it only use is for some of that yeeeh haaaa straight line stuff

What you have to remember is there budget shocks pete not a what you would call a good setup for a fast road car with power

Edited to add no cossie handles superb most handle like a sack of shit free falling down a ski slope

Staffi

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Well they've always been bang on on my Cossies Jay so i rate them, you should have driven mine on the coil overs, if Sheady reads this I'm sure he'll agree, fooking terrible to say the least, Tarren never drove the thing so he knew fuck all he was just happy it was slammed

Staffi

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I also agree with you that track ready cars etc are i guess better on them

Jay,

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Avo ones iirc then standard shock with dynamic spring would be better lol !

Cant wait to get the konis off mine tbh just need to finish off the other stuff first tho

fraser9764

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I agree with both of you to be honest, konis aren't the best, but i would rather stick with konis than cheap coilovers. they will be changed at some point but it will have to wait a little while yet as if im gonna do it i will do it properly not just gaz or avo coilovers, i want something that will actually absorb shocks instead of loosening the fillings in my teeth
so back to the original question... i guess there is no problem with shortening the spring to compensate for the increased height from lowering the top mount. the only downside is losing some suspension travel.
cue everyone saying it is dangerous to cut springs...

costina

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I've had gaz coilovers which were shocking for road use went back to konis and never looked back. Didn't like AVOs either as I fitted them to a mates car.

scoooby slayer

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I had gaz coilovers on my old saph and once the spring rates were changed it was a decent road car, the rears are far to hard as standard I couldn't get any weight transfer and no grip.

Jay,

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because the of the shelf are not sprung and valved for the correct weight and use

Abetter idea would be to have the car weighed and then phone gaz up give them the car weights and a description of how its used ! This should add no extra cost

I will be doing the above and buying bilstien or if i can get the extra budget ohlins

Jay,

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Thats the thing Karl people think oh it says cosworth they must be ok then find the above but how the hell a budget koni shock with a shit spring add to it can cater for a 300 bhp and a 500 bhp cossie is beyond me lol

Jay,

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If you know the lengths and widths and poundage falkner springs will make you some for a koni shock

Ridgey

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Graham

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

fraser9764

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What?!

Jay,

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Cutting springs i bet Mate you have spent a fortune putting that car together beam diff ect engine why put it on shit suspension ?

Ridgey

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I may have my Gaz units spare soon

fraser9764

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As I said above, it will be done, but as you said, it comes down to cash available at the time. The car will have to go together with what I have for now. However on the blue saph I added more castor by spacing out the tca/arb which made a massive difference, but pushed the wheel too far forward in the arch, so for now I want to add the castor fron the top.

Eventually the spec will be:
coilovers, probably ohlins or similar, valved and sprung correctly so i don't damage my back when I run over a stone in the road
comp struts,
3dr hubs
adjustable tcas
adjustable top mounts,
wrc style bladed front arb
probably escos rear arb

there's a good couple of grand there

Ridgey

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Your couple of grand+ will go just on the coilovers

fraser9764

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I know
Does anyone know what poundage ahmeds springs are out of interest?

Mike1

Do you know what your setting was on caster before and after adding the spacers?

fraser9764

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i dont sorry, i just added the same both sides as a trial to see what difference it made. It made the car more stable at speed, which was what i was aiming for, and then i crashed it before i had chance to go any further with doing a more permenent job.

BRAMMER

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Mines on GAZ and the fronts feel ok-ish but the rears have always been an issue as they don't handle the power, i've opted for a 250Ib spring to see what difference they make but ideally i really want the car professionally setup

Mike1

Ah, shame, I guess it might have been at nearly 4 degrees if you'd got enough spacers/washers. Standard with an H14 is supposed to be about 3 30'

Mark Shead

Koni's ride fine on a normal car but anything with good power needs something better but that means a starting cost of over 4k,
For what you use you car for the Koni's offer the best ride.

Mark

fraser9764

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Okay so I might have a plan for the fronts, got to wait for some bits to arrive and do sone measuring.

On the rear, ive checked the springs I have, and they are 300lb/in. ( checked in a press with a corner weight scale under them.)
I am actually assuming that the rears are ahmed spec springs, I bought them second hand but the car has always driven well on them and it sits nicely.
Sooo... if I were to contact faulkner springs as Jay has suggested, I guess im looking at a spring that rises in rate from 300lb/in too what?
If I was going to pull a number out of the air i would have said 600-750ish?

Jay,

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Full race on a 2wd we would use 475 to 550 rear and 570 to 650 on the front So realistically I would start with a 375 rear and a 450 to 475 front but if your ur planning on springing the konis in this way then you are going to over spring the shock so it will be a pointless exercise plus a waste of cash ! So like i have said buy better units but mate im in the same boat atm spent a few quid on a gearbox and turbo ect lol so having to wait for suspension but now at 34 psi on a billet t36 at full chat should be 420 is bhp the car feel dreadful and its been rebushed ect but the konis massively let it down