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Old 24-03-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Duratec I4 Engines Really How Tunable Are They?

I have read alot of people rave on about the duratec engine, how efficiant is it? how tunable and reliable are they really? im concerned by the lack of real information behind these engines, real experiences and facts.

There's lots of tuning parts in n/a form, but can they be turbo charged? Is it as costly to say get 400bhp out of a 2.0l duratec as getting 400bhp out a 2.0l zetec if its even possible? How would you go about it to begin with after sourcing a 2.0l duratec engine?
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fast ford jan 2005, read it and weep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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or talk vulcan 240bhp and 170lbf.ft of torque on 45mm throttle bodies
Old 24-03-2005, 12:33 PM
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Kenny@ MSD Turbo'd one didn't he.
Old 24-03-2005, 12:42 PM
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i already know about the throttle bodies and im not interested in that set up. I like some info on turbo charging a duratec engine list of vital parts, experiences, companies that could help would be nice too.
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cosworth do 2.3 kit.
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Originally Posted by MattRS1600i
Kenny@ MSD Turbo'd one didn't he.
na that was an i4 rs2000 engine wernt it not a duratec

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Originally Posted by pauldudley
cosworth do 2.3 kit.
No, the Ford/Mazda I4 Duratec comes as 2litre or 2.3 as standard.

If you want tuning info on them, id look towards the USA, as they more common there, esp with regard to bigtime tuning, its mainly them on throttle bodies in gay kitcars in the UK at mo...
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didn't say std it's a 4 stage made by cosworth 2.3 for the u.s.a market.....
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THEY COME WITH A FUCKING 2.3 AS A STANDARD OPTION YOU DAFT GOON

THe I4 duratec is either 2litre or 2.3...
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Whoops wrong engine! LOL

SBD Developments have a very good site and techy article on this engine

and steve, there is a cosworth kit available to upgrade the 2.3 with, check the US parts calalogue
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I dont give a fuck if cosworth list it as an option, there are 2.3 I4 Dutatecs as STANDARD
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i know you can get the 2.3 duratec engines as standard in cars like the american focus and the ranger pick-up trucks but the 2.0l is in the mondeo therefore easier to get hold of a donor car/engine. The reason why i dont want throttle bodies is becuase the trumpets/intake path has to be very long to extract the power. The american sites i seen are very sketchy in details and just seem to brag about themselves. How come if this is such a good affordable engine with so many claims why isnt more people using them?
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
I dont give a fuck if cosworth list it as an option, there are 2.3 I4 Dutatecs as STANDARD
You arent getting it are you dickwad?

There is a Cosworth kit you add on to the standard 2.3 to make it better than standard............can I make it any simpler for you?
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sorry if it was a little confusing but have got it now just a quicky while wa are there, Is cosworth the company I it was owned by victers after bill &ben owned by v.a.g now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!or cos-tin & duck-worth
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Originally Posted by pauldudley
sorry if it was a little confusing but have got it now just a quicky while wa are there is cosworth owned by v.a.g now.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry thats was for the benefit of itsmeagain
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Dickwad Living in the eiiiiiiiightyyyys

Basicly Matthew, before Mr Dudley EDITED his post, he said it wasnt a std engine, only a Cosworth conversion, i was saying its a standard engine, which it is, you said Cosworth list a kit, and i dont care, as all i was saying is they do it std, as P.D. said they dont....

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Originally Posted by FiestaZetec
i know you can get the 2.3 duratec engines as standard in cars like the american focus and the ranger pick-up trucks but the 2.0l is in the mondeo therefore easier to get hold of a donor car/engine. The reason why i dont want throttle bodies is becuase the trumpets/intake path has to be very long to extract the power. The american sites i seen are very sketchy in details and just seem to brag about themselves. How come if this is such a good affordable engine with so many claims why isnt more people using them?
Loads of kit car manufacturers offer them. They are used pretty widely from what I can gather. I do know that the bellhousing is different to any previous ford types being 6 bolt instead of 5 so this makes conversions on existing ford models a little bit more of a problem.
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Dickwad Living in the eiiiiiiiightyyyys


...and whats wrong with the 80's
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I adore the 80's bad hair, shocking fashion statements, music anyone could sing along and dance too, the best drivers cars built during the 80's fond memories.

Back to planet earth, getting the bell housing to fit isnt a problem there's kits available to fit almost any ford gearbox. I guess nobody here has actually turbo charged a duratech engine yet?
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Her we go http://www.focussport.com/cosworth-manifold.htm
Cosworth inlet upgrade and other upgrades available for the duratec engine Also there are a lot of turbo versions in the states some in drag cars.

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Do you want to know about the I4 engine or the Duratec?

They are both comletely different engines.

Kenny @ MSD turbo'ed an I4, not a Duratec.
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Originally Posted by DazC
Do you want to know about the I4 engine or the Duratec?

They are both comletely different engines.

Kenny @ MSD turbo'ed an I4, not a Duratec.
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Daz ford in there wisdom actually called both units I4
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Originally Posted by xfactor
Daz ford in there wisdom actually called both units I4
I have been told by someone who works in Ford development that they do not share the same code or type names. I have also been led to believe that the I4 that people tag onto Duratec is actually from America and is an abbreviation of "in line 4" where as the I4 engine is actual engine type, not configuration.

The Duratec 4 cylinder isn't even a Ford engine.
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how comes its not a ford engine then? i would have thought they engineered and manufactered the engines themselves or is it like the 1.7 puma engine co-developed with yamaha?

To clear up any misunderstanding im talking about the 2.0l engine from the lastest mondeo's not the older i4 engines.
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what about the volvo/ford duratec 2.5 just add to the confustion, yes daz that's what i thougth too....
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The Duratec V6 is a Ford engine. The Duratec in line 4 is a Mazda engine. Ford own Mazda though so technically it is a Ford engine but Mazda developed it.
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2.5 4c mate in the new focus
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Originally Posted by pauldudley
2.5 4c mate in the new focus
Dunno. I didn't know there was a 4 cylinder 2.5 in the new Focus. If anyting I would have thought it was the Duratec 2l. I know the ST Focus is a planned 2.5 Volvo 5 cylinder engine IIRC.

Ford have no 2.5 litre engine listed for the Focus....Only for the Mondeo.
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yes mate......
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