As above. They think they are doing you a service but most of them just think it's a licence to print money!!! From what I've read and heard there is a massive difference between prices up here in Scotland and across the border in England. Just read Glenn's resto thread on his staff and OMFG how some people can take the piss with the amour of time they 'claim' they have spent working on someone's pride and joy when they quite clearly haven't and then charge grossly over inflated prices then have the brass neck to throw your car out in the street when they know fine well the car has no tax and you have no other option but to drive it home and risk being pulled over and your car towed and end up even further out of pocket. Glenn if you see this name and shame them so no one else falls foul to the cowboy f***ers

Rant over!! For now

 

Wow you prompted me to read the latest on the thread. I've followed it from the start and it's insane! SO now for them to basically get rid of it is such a fucking shame.

The painter and/or owner deserves a right smack in the teeth because it's a disgrace.


Good luck with the new painter Glenn. He sounds like a proper bloke that will do the job perfectly for you.

 

Like ive said on my thread there was a bloke going down on a monday night for a few extra pennys and I think he was doing the work to the car. So I dont know if they have fallen out or its cold dark nights and he doesnt go down this time of year and thats why the bs owner hasn't done any work to my car.

The lad at the bs does alloy wheel refurbs and I think he makes his money off doing them cause its easy money.

There was a mk2 golf in the bs which needs ns rear arch and sill and a repair to the floor.That golf has been stripped down and never been touched in all the time ive had my car there so why hasnt he got rid of that golf cause he needs the space.

 

The painter and/or owner deserves a right smack in the teeth because it's a disgrace.


Good luck with the new painter Glenn. He sounds like a proper bloke that will do the job perfectly for you. [/QUOTE]


Totally agree with you chop! Guy sounds like a complete and utter ballbag and I couldn't see him getting away with that up here in sunny Scotland. Place would be smouldering by now haha

 

Not only is the car not finished its also been damaged to.

 

Got a link to your thread Glenn?

 

https://passionford.com/forum/restor...-now-home.html

 

shame that , if you was closer bud id offer my services at a reduced rate just to help you out ! this is the same resion i work for my self now , to many bosses out there in this trade that dont have a clue and the followers have to do as told ,

 

I'm seriously starting to believe that there is no such thing as a good bodyshop now.

I've had grief with every single bodyshop that I've used.

I only had the underneath of my Cossie sorted (alledgedly) about 6 months ago, I was working underneath it earlier and noticed that the rust is starting to come back through in a few places. Popped down to speak to matey about it and all I got was 'I'll have a look but I won't be able to do anything about it'!!! Well what's the fucking point in looking at it then?!!

He even admitted that it shouldn't be coming back through after only 6 months, it should last a fair bit longer than that!!!

Properly pissed off and seriously wondering if I can be bothered with it anymore now.

 

don't lose all faith guys, i run a network of 127 bodyshops and i can honestly say i have had issues/reworks on less than 1% of the jobs i've sent them (8000+ in last 12 months) if anyone needs a good bodyshop PM me.

 

I done £3k on a front end blow over (Bonnet, bumper, wing mirrors and grille), relaquered calipers, alloy wheels refurbed and o/s/r arch replaced. 2 month later and the paint started to peel off round the vents on my Saff.

Long and short is the bodyshop accepted liability but I seem to be getting the runaround when ever I try to get it booked in to be redone!

 

Typicall,don't lose heart with it tho pal, just strip the bad bits and redo them yourself if you have somewhere to do it

 

That's just typical tho,quick enuf to get the car out the door but when it comes to rectifying problems there in no hurry whatsoever which is bollocks but just phone constantly everyday until they give you a booking in.

 

Thing is pal the bumper,yeah ok it's a cunt but your getting the car painted anyway so that I could live with but it's the bump strip that would be really boiling my piss,as far as I know they are obsolete and a cunt to track down and not cheap either. A lot of people do away with them and weld up the holes but in my eyes it just looks wrong without them

 

I really can't be bothered to deal with it anymore mate, I don't need the stress of it anymore so I think it's time just to accept it's never going to be what I hope it would be, cut my losses, strip it and move on.

 

That's shit pal. Feel for you and can understand how you feel but deep down do you really want to do that??? Don't know what I would do being in that position! I've always used a little 1 man operation and never had reason to fault his work but then he's a ford man through and through aswell which helps and he's built some cracking motors over the years and thing is he's totally self taught aswell. Will see if I can find the link to his old mk2 rs2000 pick up he built and just not long sold after owning it for the last 20 odd yrs

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...ick-up/1019070

Here's it. Pics don't do it justice tho

 

what group "fix" ?

 

Just tosh some black undersealer on and forget about it.

 

Furry there mostly newer cars mate, Can't see your guys restoring a 89 saff cos can you? I work with guys you prob know and the average insurance bodyshop is in and out quick scuff and a puff bolt a wing on type of work.

Very rare that quarters are replaced as cars are just written off for ease.

Fabrication is a very expensive game you can never quote until you cut all the crap out.. Just my opinion.

 

Bodyshops these days just want easy jobs that they can turn around quickly and make good money of them.

 

Gutted for you Glenn. Hope you get it all sorted and enjoy owning her again.

My car is needing the same treatment as yours, I have put it off as I don't know who to entrust her to , who will do a good job. I have thought about doing the body myself but don't want to get disheartened and it her to end up lying in the garage in project state.

Keep the faith , Old ford are always a headache but the smile they give you is always worth it

 

i work in a bodyshop and we do all types of repairs from scraches to jig jobs and replace plenty of quarters and panels, cars arnt written off for ease just the cost of repare

 

find some one thats into fords and youll get a better job

 

Now that's some really good advice. Glenn I feel your pain mate it must be gutting for you. Don't give up there are some very good people out there its just finding them and hoping there not too busy.

Good luck

Regards

Paul

 

Going back to the 1st post, I'm not so sure there is a big difference in price up here compared to down south. Maybe if you're talking about homers but I've found (to my cost) you get jest you pay for up here.

I had my old Subaru painted cheaply as a homer through a friend if a friend in a pro bodyshop. What a shit job it was and I had very little comeback. £1250 in total inc the wheels and some rust repairs around the rear window.

Bought my new one knowing it needed a bit if paint and it was going to be a cunt to match being Crystal Grey. Had some quotes of £550+ to paint and blend a rear quarter! No body work required either, just paint. Found a well recommended place who just so happened to like cash - it's still cost £280 but the job was flawless and done properly.

How do those prices compare to down the road?

 

I just cant get over the bs owner taking the job on then paying his mate 10 quid to do the work whilst he is pocketing the other 15 quid. He said to me from day one if I strip the car down it will keep the cost down fpmsl.

The lad in the bs also said he does alot of other bs fook ups fpmsl. Well matey someone is gonna have to repair YOUR fook up.

 

Most mainstream shops pay on a bonus scheme to the guys doing the work, so salary + however many lic flicks you can do in a day, hence 100+ on a sierra's arch's just dont seem worth it to them.

I used to work in a MD shop doing everything from a light change to full jigging, any type of panel replacement the lot.

And as ive said many a time on threads like this its a "very simply" art if you have the tools,knowledge but it takes time to do right and thats where the cost come's from, hence ALOT of private's doing it for supposedly half cost, sadly that can as is case for Glenn translate into hell.

We'd work on ANYTHING but it'd be rare people would want to pay "out of insurance cover" for the work, although i once done a complete back panel on a mk3 Escort Ghia, cost inc paint 300 notes inc panel/strip fit/paint/full seam sealing, owner was blown away as a local had said £1k lol.
Easy to be cheap and give quality if you know what your doing..
Fabrication however is a different matter and as we know old ford repair panels are thin on ground...

My advice to anyone wanting quality repairs is to strip your motor to its barest bone's 1st, then get quotes done baring in mind the above..
That way any decent fella will be able to look at that rusty outer sill proper and say hey thats "poss" going to need inner repair's too at x amount, MD shops really aint that pricey for straight panel replacement or paint jobs esp considering you get "OVEN BAKED" layers too....and not the contents of sponge bobs sea bed cooked on with the misses babyliss.

Just a shame so many cowboys exist giving all shops a bad rep.

GOOD LUCK Glenn hope you can find the will power to carry on fella

 

Ive got the will matey. I hate been beaten and my aim is to have my car finished and built back up ready to be used in the spring/summer next year.Ive spent a bloody fortune on this car over the 8 nearly 9 years ive owned the car.I just wish I could spray and weld and I would save a fortune.

 

Have u Thought about "maybe" doing courses on both at say local college?
Ok they aint the best way of learning the skills but they give you a damn good heads up....

Trouble is though Glenn when you can do this sorta stuff on your own whips you find yourself saying i'll do it next week as its a 8hr job....
Then as in my case 3yrs later its still stripped and untouched

My skills sometimes lead me to assuming i have super powers of time manipulation and it will be done in a day, no worries, it can wait a week

All best with yours though fella

 

Ive kept putting my name down to go on a welding course at work but nothing ever seems to happen about.

Im a mechanic and I know what its like to do jobs on my own cars lol.

 

I know & use a BS that i would trust with my life. Top class job everytime but im afraid the average peep on here would say they are rip off merchants because of there prices some are prepared to pay for a Top class job others are not. Glenn was ripped off by a con merchant no doubt about that & being Mr. Nice Guy they took advantage of him but the price he payed was cheap if the work had been done at a proper place.

 

theres only so many man hours and materials in any specific job and its not rocket science to get a decent finish on anything especially for those pretending to be qualified at that trade.
im a joiner to trade and I did spraying on my celica cosworth . it was just as good and long lasting as the bodyshops efforts with no orange peel effect etc in the pearlescent blue paint. its not hard so theres no excuse .
unfortunately the car didn't last as long as the paint job would have

 

Always difficult to find a decent bs, i did found a good one after a search of maybe 1-2 years
Don't go to the normal bodyshops but look for someone who's doing specials and/or oldtimer type cars and you should be fine, and always do a price up front with the bs and pay afterwards, if not walk away.
My bs did a good job for a fair price and service afterwards as my bonnet had some spots but he respayed it for free ofcourse with no probs and it's perfect now

 

The work he had done isn't cheap at all. It's simple fab work that any panel beater should be able to do in a day or so. If you think that was cheap I reckon your bodyshop is the one who is ripping you off.

I do agree that proper fab work and serious restoration is expensive but that's not what was needed here.

 

A day or so to do inner and outer sills on a saff

Best you start up your own bodyshop and you will never be short of work.

2 days 16 hours at £30 per hour £640 plus vat plus parts.

after hes spent that for a mot style welding 2 years later it will require more.

 

16 hours at £30 an hour is £480. plus vat at 20% is £576?
...or is that the price youd charge for that work including the parts and the vat?

 

Thankfully my bodyshop is excellent. They also aren't scared of a bit of rust - useful when dealing with Fords

 

Lol typo just an example based on what previous post said

 

Probably handy that I do have my own unit then and happen to have a very good panel beater. You seem to believe it's some sort of magic involved. Have you previously paid someone to scratch their balls while they were meant to be fixing your car?

And for what it's worth I was commenting on what had been done. To do one side that's more than enough time