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Been looking at softroaders as a daily/winter hack.
Also want to be able to tow on a post 97 license.
now these have a proper offroad 4wd system and are actually quite capable....
But they rust like a ford![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
However the 5dr decent models have a kerb weight of 1410kg and a towing weight of 1500kg.
IMO that means you can tow a light trailer and sub 1ton track car upto 1410kg which is perfectly realistic these days, and still have 600kg of weight you can fill the 4x4 up with![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Anybody got experience of these???
Also want to be able to tow on a post 97 license.
now these have a proper offroad 4wd system and are actually quite capable....
But they rust like a ford
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However the 5dr decent models have a kerb weight of 1410kg and a towing weight of 1500kg.
IMO that means you can tow a light trailer and sub 1ton track car upto 1410kg which is perfectly realistic these days, and still have 600kg of weight you can fill the 4x4 up with
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Anybody got experience of these???
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Never owned one but sell lots of parts for them!
Alternators and shock absorbers are popular at the moment!
Avoid the cars with electronic suspension as the dampers cost upwards of £200 each OE only, they can be fitted with non electronic dampers but it means buying a full set
Make sure all the electrickery works and its not rotten!
thats the extent of my knowledge!
Alternators and shock absorbers are popular at the moment!
Avoid the cars with electronic suspension as the dampers cost upwards of £200 each OE only, they can be fitted with non electronic dampers but it means buying a full set
Make sure all the electrickery works and its not rotten!
thats the extent of my knowledge!
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make sure no lights on the dash and dont get a GDi pertol one......... wow! lol
shogun/pajero etc are all name confused so make sure the chassis/build numbers are what you are looking for
and its not hooky, these are and were rife for having ID swops.
just cos its 10/15yrs old and cheap, dont rule it out. They were worth more than cossies in bits and easyer to steal
shogun/pajero etc are all name confused so make sure the chassis/build numbers are what you are looking for
and its not hooky, these are and were rife for having ID swops.
just cos its 10/15yrs old and cheap, dont rule it out. They were worth more than cossies in bits and easyer to steal
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Better off getting a proper 2.5/2.8 pajero/shogun.
Didn't that pinin have a 1.1 engine?
I'm pretty sure it was something dismal like that.
Whatever you do,DO NOT BUY A DISCOVERY!!!!
Didn't that pinin have a 1.1 engine?
I'm pretty sure it was something dismal like that.
Whatever you do,DO NOT BUY A DISCOVERY!!!!
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The petrol gdi's
The etv (throttle body) used to go down
If you was lucky you could de choke it and re learn the idle speed
If you was unlucky it would need a new unit at something around 1200 plus re setting![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Also check the wiring for the 4wd switches as they use do melt on the exhaust
The etv (throttle body) used to go down
If you was lucky you could de choke it and re learn the idle speed
If you was unlucky it would need a new unit at something around 1200 plus re setting
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Also check the wiring for the 4wd switches as they use do melt on the exhaust
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I cant get a full size 4x4 as most of them you cant tow anything on a post 97 license
The towing weight on the plate is so high that with the kerb weight of the tow car and its towing weight exceeds 3.5 tonne. Even if i tow a light trailer to keep the actual weight under 3.5 ton its not legal.
The petrol gdi's
The etv (throttle body) used to go down
If you was lucky you could de choke it and re learn the idle speed
If you was unlucky it would need a new unit at something around 1200 plus re setting![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Also check the wiring for the 4wd switches as they use do melt on the exhaust
The etv (throttle body) used to go down
If you was lucky you could de choke it and re learn the idle speed
If you was unlucky it would need a new unit at something around 1200 plus re setting
![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Also check the wiring for the 4wd switches as they use do melt on the exhaust
I thought the pinin 4wd/low range select lever was mechanical?? certainly looks it next to the handbrake.
Its a land rover product
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We have the large 5 door for work and I use it for towing our track car and trailer. Been a brilliant vehicle and really good for towing. Only issue we have had was a fuel leak that made it juicy and difficult to start. Sorted that and its not too bad, cost about £100 to fill up but will get use 600miles roughly. not bad for long distance and fairly good off road (although only taken off road lightly) and excellent in the snow. would recommend to anyone.
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I had a "carisma" with the same engine and i always got away with decoking it. Plus the units are easy to get second hand or in scrappys for not too silly money.
I thought the pinin 4wd/low range select lever was mechanical?? certainly looks it next to the handbrake.
It is a mechanical lever but will have switches on the box to tell you what position you are in
On the dash
And sometimes iirmc if the switch goes down you won't be able to select 2wd or 4 wd as it won't engage the front diff ( works on a vacum circuit)
It's been a while since I done a Mitsi
I used to work for them
I thought the pinin 4wd/low range select lever was mechanical?? certainly looks it next to the handbrake.
It is a mechanical lever but will have switches on the box to tell you what position you are in
On the dash
And sometimes iirmc if the switch goes down you won't be able to select 2wd or 4 wd as it won't engage the front diff ( works on a vacum circuit)
It's been a while since I done a Mitsi
I used to work for them
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The 4 wheel drive usually becomes inoperable because the car spends all its life in 2L.I had the problem with my LWB and the diff lock wouldnt engage .Mine was a wide bodied UK one and it does say in 2 or three places on big stickers to operate the full 4 wheel drive so it does not become seized iirc and yes it is vacuum operated .
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pinin's are proper rot boxes, just to repeat what others have said, gdi's usually need the boolocks revving off them to get them through the cat test
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You would be surprised Warren.As it used to be you couldnt buy panels either.A lot of the mk2 shoguns are rusty as hell under the plastic wheel arches,if you ever see them in a scrappy a lot will have been cut out to repair another.Mine suffered on one cil and one rear arch and slight bubbling on the front arches.Do the the warriors suffer with head problems ?.The 2.8 in mine pulled like a train,liked a drink though .
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