320 bhp

has any1 seen the black rs500on ebay buy it now at 15K surely carnt be rite??? got no lower spoiler and fin isn't right 1?

Mr RS500

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Its not a 500 , its a std 3 door

Moonstone Steve.

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The only thing from a 500 is the front spoiler and that is probably a repo.

Steve

ginner

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Hes adamant it is gen

daz1968

The only thing rs500 on the car is the bumper, the engine is a 2wd with a few aftermarket parts. So even if it is a 500 shell it must have been stripped and built up with non 500 parts, only chassis number will prove one way or another but if it is genuine it needs a lot of hard to find replacement parts. I would say its more likely a std 3 door with 500 bumper fitted.

rog

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Strange one, ad seems half believeable, and if it is, the only original parts are the chassis number, bumper and rear beam

PAUL S

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I remember a black stolen and completely stripped RS500 coming up for sale at a breakers in Gloucester in the mid 90s for Ł1500. You could pick them up complete tatty one for 8k back then. I bet this one has a similar story. probably rebuilt in the 90s using a damaged 3dr as a parts donor.

If you had a 3dr with all RS500 bits you could buy this one if legit, swap it all out and sell the 3dr I suppose. Lot of hassle though. Only worth it if this ones not recorded.

CosworthGuy

He's adamant its a genuine one. Is the chassis number the right one then for a 500

richard youll

Yep listing shows a 500 chassis number what's Paul's input on the chassis number??

bigdel

got a link,can't find it for trying?

Dimma4x4

Been thinkin how long will it b b4 a thread starts about this!!!! Looks a bit hmmmmmmmm to me but you never know!!!!! It well might b

LHD220Turbo

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1987-FORD-...item232c21d0a6

if the chassis numbers match then yes its a 500, but as said, you'd have to find some genuine 500 parts to go back on it.

jason_nike

He has sold a replica 500 spoiler and a 3 Door bodyshell also.
Interesting indeed

james kiely

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has he got chasis numbers in the floor or a vin plate ,the add is very confusing

Alps Pacino

So is what he is saying about the chassis numbers correct or not?

If it Is true what he is saying about the chassis number wouldn't that mean its a genuine one that's been reshelled?

james kiely

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he states in the add it had a rs500 reshell ,which i never knew existed

Alps Pacino

I think what he means is that it was a rs500 that got reshelled and the numbers from the original shell were put in the new shell keeping the original rs500 identity.

Plenty about that are like that i'm sure

PAUL V

Is it still not worth Ł15k RS500 or not ??
So why has it not sold

james kiely

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i see what your saying mate ,but he states that the car was broken or the parts stolen and then years later reshelled ,but what exactly did they reshell if their were no parts as they were all gone at the time .

Alps Pacino

maybe he just meant the engine and rear spoilers?

All I was asking was if its correct what he is saying about the chassis numbers and if so would that not make it a genuine rs500 with correct identity with a load of 3 door parts on that was unfortunately reshelled?

james kiely

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it will all depend if they were stamped up or down

BRAMMER

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From how it reads it's once been in an accident and reshelled, but somewhere down the line i'd say has been broken for spares maybe in a time when these were impossible to insure, what was left was maybe the shell and over time someone has slowly built the car back up - it would be better if you could speak to the previous owners if you were that interested in buying the car, could be a nice cheap 500 for someone but it will always carry this story . But it's a car and if solid enough and mechanically sound if put back to full 500 spec what would it matter.

PAUL S

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Its basically a bitsa 3dr with possibly an RS500 vin number, that would take another 10 to 15k to turn it back into a full RS500. Easier to just buy a decent usable no stories one in the first place.

james kiely

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thats the best explanation so far paul

PAUL S

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Dont get me wrong, if the stories genuine and it really is a lost ex 500 and that is what someone is looking for then it could be a great project. If its Hpi clear then the best bet would be to make it into a really nice modified 500 rather than spend a fortune trying to return it to standard RS500 spec

james kiely

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no sign of a vin plate on the slam panel.

Turbonutter69

I see 1.

chris cdti

No silver vin tag on that car in the pictures for the engine bay. Don't they also have the build number between the window switches? As it looks missing

MrC

You mean black Tickford plaque between the electric window switches???

This was not an original item and was supplied by Martyn Lobb who was the Rs owners Club's Rs500 registrar and a founder member of CLUBRS500 these were supplied for the tenth anniversary in 1997 if a car does not have one all it means is the car was not registered with the RSOC or CLUBRS500

RigPig

The ad says it had not been back on the road since being rebuilt after crash, but has stone chips ??? im confused by the ad.

MrC

Tbh I'd take a punt if it is genuine

chris cdti

Good bit of info. I thought they had come with them fitted

Turbonutter69

So some plum has painted it black. But it's there.
Could you even buy RS500 shells back then?
The car hasn't had tax since 1992. Did someone think they bought a minter and stored it but then when they tried to sell someone has informed them it a little dodgy hence the reason for the sale now?
If it's a fully legal car then wouldn't keeping it appeal as they seem to just increase in value?

chris cdti

Also doesn't a 500 shell have extra hoops and a modified battery tray? It would be interesting to see if this car had them.............

kosienutter

Deffo a 2wd block at the thermostat housing should be the same as a 4x4 if I am not mistaken??
Chris, I think the different battery tray was something to do with the different inlet plenum used on the 500's. Plus I think the header tank is wrong too.

chris cdti

That's not a vin tag the vin is on the other side like this

Mr RS500

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The battery tray was modded at tickford so the second fuel rail didnt hit it when the engine rocked

As i see it the only thing 500 on this car is the logbook , ( and with no vin tag )

Who will ever know the true story of the car , but it would seem to me that the car was damaged , reshelled early in its life , then later broke for spares and built up again with std 3 door parts

If it was closer i would go have a look just out of interest

The chassie number is correct for a 500

Mr RS500

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Regards Build plaques

Mr C is correct , Martyn Lobb got them made for RSOC members who had a 500

I then got them remade for those who never had them or wernt around in them days

Mr Lobb told me he would sue me if i got them made as he had the rights to them ,,lol ,,,

I contacted Tickford ( as the plaques had there logo ) and asked them if i ( on behalf of the RSOC ) could use there logo and they gave me written permission , and also told me to tell Martyn that if he tried to sue me they would sue him as he had no rights to the plaques as he never asked them for permission to use there logo .. lol

So the RSOC has full rights and permission from Tickford to have the plaques made with the TICKFORD LOGO

DamoM

A lot of unanswered questions on this!

What about the loom for the extra set of injectors?

natehall

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Quality!!

Did he ever try sueing you