rs500 on ebay 15k??
17-06-2013, 10:37 AM
#41
Looks a nice car on the face of it but it's always going to have a stigma because of the history, there's nicer "normal" 3drs about for similar money that would get my money before that one.
By the time you'd found a properly blocked RS500 engine with everything else that goes with it, turbo, inlet etc, which still wouldn't be the original one to the car, and the rear spoilers etc, and god knows whatever else it's missing, it would end up owing you a fortune, and it would still have dodgy history
This one looks nice though, if I was in the market for one I'd just bite the bullet and buy a good one lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...10688894877%26
By the time you'd found a properly blocked RS500 engine with everything else that goes with it, turbo, inlet etc, which still wouldn't be the original one to the car, and the rear spoilers etc, and god knows whatever else it's missing, it would end up owing you a fortune, and it would still have dodgy history
This one looks nice though, if I was in the market for one I'd just bite the bullet and buy a good one lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...10688894877%26
17-06-2013, 05:26 PM
#45
Interesting read this, would definately be nice to put it to bed for the sake of the official records. So many possibilities, not least that it could be a 3dr on a 500 logbook 
and we all know what that means....
I suppose you could just take it at face value, and accept the numbers belong to a 500, and leave it at that. If the shell turns out to be a new 3 dr one there will be no distinguishing physical features to say 100%, especially if there is no paper trail to back it up. Strange one.
and we all know what that means....I suppose you could just take it at face value, and accept the numbers belong to a 500, and leave it at that. If the shell turns out to be a new 3 dr one there will be no distinguishing physical features to say 100%, especially if there is no paper trail to back it up. Strange one.
Last edited by rog; 17-06-2013 at 05:28 PM.
17-06-2013, 05:47 PM
#46
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Mr C is correct , Martyn Lobb got them made for RSOC members who had a 500
I then got them remade for those who never had them or wernt around in them days
Mr Lobb told me he would sue me if i got them made as he had the rights to them ,,lol ,,,
I contacted Tickford ( as the plaques had there logo ) and asked them if i ( on behalf of the RSOC ) could use there logo and they gave me written permission , and also told me to tell Martyn that if he tried to sue me they would sue him as he had no rights to the plaques as he never asked them for permission to use there logo .. lol
So the RSOC has full rights and permission from Tickford to have the plaques made with the TICKFORD LOGO
Mr C is correct , Martyn Lobb got them made for RSOC members who had a 500
I then got them remade for those who never had them or wernt around in them days
Mr Lobb told me he would sue me if i got them made as he had the rights to them ,,lol ,,,
I contacted Tickford ( as the plaques had there logo ) and asked them if i ( on behalf of the RSOC ) could use there logo and they gave me written permission , and also told me to tell Martyn that if he tried to sue me they would sue him as he had no rights to the plaques as he never asked them for permission to use there logo .. lol
So the RSOC has full rights and permission from Tickford to have the plaques made with the TICKFORD LOGO
Mint!!! I love that story!
17-06-2013, 06:05 PM
#47
Interesting read this, would definately be nice to put it to bed for the sake of the official records. So many possibilities, not least that it could be a 3dr on a 500 logbook and we all know what that means....
I suppose you could just take it at face value, and accept the numbers belong to a 500, and leave it at that. If the shell turns out to be a new 3 dr one there will be no distinguishing physical features to say 100%, especially if there is no paper trail to back it up. Strange one.
and we all know what that means....I suppose you could just take it at face value, and accept the numbers belong to a 500, and leave it at that. If the shell turns out to be a new 3 dr one there will be no distinguishing physical features to say 100%, especially if there is no paper trail to back it up. Strange one.
so any reshelled rs500 is a 3 door shell the same as a factory car basically!
steve
17-06-2013, 06:14 PM
#48
Just because it has a vin number and beam that means fuck all.
*Edited because I also meant that if the battery tray was the same as 3dr, then there is nothing to tie it to ever being a 500, i.e no care was taken to preseve the car, which means it's probably a heap of shit.
Last edited by rog; 17-06-2013 at 06:21 PM.
17-06-2013, 07:47 PM
#49
Looks a nice car on the face of it but it's always going to have a stigma because of the history, there's nicer "normal" 3drs about for similar money that would get my money before that one.
By the time you'd found a properly blocked RS500 engine with everything else that goes with it, turbo, inlet etc, which still wouldn't be the original one to the car, and the rear spoilers etc, and god knows whatever else it's missing, it would end up owing you a fortune, and it would still have dodgy history
This one looks nice though, if I was in the market for one I'd just bite the bullet and buy a good one lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...10688894877%26
By the time you'd found a properly blocked RS500 engine with everything else that goes with it, turbo, inlet etc, which still wouldn't be the original one to the car, and the rear spoilers etc, and god knows whatever else it's missing, it would end up owing you a fortune, and it would still have dodgy history
This one looks nice though, if I was in the market for one I'd just bite the bullet and buy a good one lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Sierr...10688894877%26
Thats one of my old 500"s that i sold to buy my new house ,, Its a great car for the money
18-06-2013, 01:18 PM
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so whats crack with this then is it a genuine 500
18-06-2013, 02:38 PM
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18-06-2013, 02:49 PM
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The car has still managed to do 80k miles as well
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18-06-2013, 02:58 PM
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I find it strange how cause nobody knows this bloke the car is dodgy and tbh it probably is but if someone well known was selling this with the same story it would be a "bargain 500"
How many escort cossies have been sold over the years with xr3i or rs2000 logbooks and your telling me that isn't dodgy?
How many escort cossies have been sold over the years with xr3i or rs2000 logbooks and your telling me that isn't dodgy?
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18-06-2013, 03:57 PM
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So what if it was reshelled? A shell is still a serviceable part, don't forget that. Plenty of cossies gave been reshelled in their lifetime weather accident damaged or rust. So it certainly wouldn't put me off.
18-06-2013, 04:25 PM
#59
I find it strange how cause nobody knows this bloke the car is dodgy and tbh it probably is but if someone well known was selling this with the same story it would be a "bargain 500"
How many escort cossies have been sold over the years with xr3i or rs2000 logbooks and your telling me that isn't dodgy?
How many escort cossies have been sold over the years with xr3i or rs2000 logbooks and your telling me that isn't dodgy?
18-06-2013, 05:14 PM
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18-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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There are plenty of examples of how internet sensations who everyone bums and sings there praises have turned out to not be as good as people make out.
Its laughable how people say
"x is a good lad his fab work/paint/parts/tuning/cock/service is the greatest"
even though the person saying it has never even used the person but just goes off all the hype on a car forum because that person might own a fast car or they seem a nice person or there in the rs click or whatever.
I'm not saying all these internet sensations are bad just that people do get away with things just cause of unjust hype built up on a car forum.
Its laughable how people say
"x is a good lad his fab work/paint/parts/tuning/cock/service is the greatest"
even though the person saying it has never even used the person but just goes off all the hype on a car forum because that person might own a fast car or they seem a nice person or there in the rs click or whatever.
I'm not saying all these internet sensations are bad just that people do get away with things just cause of unjust hype built up on a car forum.
18-06-2013, 06:13 PM
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18-06-2013, 06:46 PM
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At the end of the day its still a 500 so will always be between 3 door and good 500 money so could make a good regular use 500 and you wouldn't be frightened of modding it, probably worth a look to make sure story ties up, as long as it was reshelled in new shell then identity should never be an issue, even if its unrecorded now the car is in the open the story can never be hidden.
19-06-2013, 07:10 AM
#68
At the end of the day its still a 500 so will always be between 3 door and good 500 money so could make a good regular use 500 and you wouldn't be frightened of modding it, probably worth a look to make sure story ties up, as long as it was reshelled in new shell then identity should never be an issue, even if its unrecorded now the car is in the open the story can never be hidden.
19-06-2013, 01:41 PM
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19-06-2013, 02:00 PM
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I think the only difference is the corner was cut off the battery tray. Pretty easy to do if you have a hacksaw and a file lol.
I could be wrong though and i'm sure a wealth of knowledge on all things rs500 will be along shortly to tell you there are other differences.
I could be wrong though and i'm sure a wealth of knowledge on all things rs500 will be along shortly to tell you there are other differences.
19-06-2013, 04:41 PM
#75
Good discussion!
I think some people are missing the point, or maybe it's me? It's not the sort of car you'd buy to spend a fortune on to put back to standard, noone is saying it will be worth alot more or they'll make money on it. If you wanted to buy an RS500 ID'd car and basically not give a fuck what it's history was, this is the car for you! You can abuse it, boast about it, polish it, neglect it or whatever.
I'd say it's a safer bet at Ł15k (or less with a haggle), than a more genuine car at double the price that still might have less than perfect history. Purley IMO.
I think some people are missing the point, or maybe it's me? It's not the sort of car you'd buy to spend a fortune on to put back to standard, noone is saying it will be worth alot more or they'll make money on it. If you wanted to buy an RS500 ID'd car and basically not give a fuck what it's history was, this is the car for you! You can abuse it, boast about it, polish it, neglect it or whatever.
I'd say it's a safer bet at Ł15k (or less with a haggle), than a more genuine car at double the price that still might have less than perfect history. Purley IMO.
Last edited by rog; 19-06-2013 at 04:43 PM.
19-06-2013, 05:17 PM
#76
Are there any other well known 500s in the RSOC that have been reshelled and had the plates swapped?
Really, i cant think of many mk1 escort mexicos, RS2000s or even mk1 fiesta supersprints etc that can totally prove they are legit on matching numbers and that the shell is the original. Bet most are 1.3Ls that were garaged all their lives and then blessed with a restoration and some total rotbox's vin tags and plate.
Really, i cant think of many mk1 escort mexicos, RS2000s or even mk1 fiesta supersprints etc that can totally prove they are legit on matching numbers and that the shell is the original. Bet most are 1.3Ls that were garaged all their lives and then blessed with a restoration and some total rotbox's vin tags and plate.
19-06-2013, 05:35 PM
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19-06-2013, 05:36 PM
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rs500 with a new engine? rs500 with a modified loom? rs500 without the rear spoilers?
how many of these are about?(ok forget the last one)
lets be honest here i bet there are a fair few rs500's out there with replacement engines that arent genuine rs500 units.
i think if it was worth this money someone like paul would have been on his way with a trailer, how many people have got the genuine parts to put it back to standard?
how many of these are about?(ok forget the last one)
lets be honest here i bet there are a fair few rs500's out there with replacement engines that arent genuine rs500 units.
i think if it was worth this money someone like paul would have been on his way with a trailer, how many people have got the genuine parts to put it back to standard?
19-06-2013, 05:48 PM
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Mr Lobb told me he would sue me if i got them made as he had the rights to them ,,lol ,,,
I contacted Tickford ( as the plaques had there logo ) and asked them if i ( on behalf of the RSOC ) could use there logo and they gave me written permission , and also told me to tell Martyn that if he tried to sue me they would sue him as he had no rights to the plaques as he never asked them for permission to use there logo .. lol
So the RSOC has full rights and permission from Tickford to have the plaques made with the TICKFORD LOGO
I contacted Tickford ( as the plaques had there logo ) and asked them if i ( on behalf of the RSOC ) could use there logo and they gave me written permission , and also told me to tell Martyn that if he tried to sue me they would sue him as he had no rights to the plaques as he never asked them for permission to use there logo .. lol
So the RSOC has full rights and permission from Tickford to have the plaques made with the TICKFORD LOGO
