Staffi

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James,

But the 500 maybe original too and in better condition, low milage DOESN'T always mean mint

I can tell you're a buyer of cars on milage rather than condition

james kiely

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well mate im sure the one on piston heads with the 25k on the clock was for sale here in ireland for two months at 22k and wasnt sold

Rsmat

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Let me find the pics of mine when I pick it up .. I paid 14.5k for mine 3years ago iirc

james kiely

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you misunderstood me pete,its the bonkers bit that commands the premium as it will be one of the best

Mr RS500

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100% agree

I have seen more rs500"s than anyone and some of these so called low miles low owner cars arnt all you would expect as they have just sat around for years and years not touched , and when there brought out again they drop to bits as everything has corroded away

The best cars are usually 40/ 60 k , these are low miles for there age but have done a few thousand every year and are kept moving and clean

I tell everyone that contacts me that you buy on

condition condition condition , not miles and owners

99% of these low owner cars have had twice the owners anyway , its just the owners have never put it in there name simply to keep the owners low

james kiely

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see my answer above paul lol

of course i would buy on condition ,all im saying is the super low milers in mint condition are the ones that will command the best dollar

and 40 to 60 k on the clock aint a high miler imo.

i can garruntee that matts car with 91k is in better condition than the one ive bought with 39k

Harris.

But its had thousands spent on it so it will be.

I can spend thousands on mine and it would be in the same condition ,but its not something i want to do.

Rsmat

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These are pics from the for sale thread .. From when I bought it ..























So I picked it up took it home and set about it ..

First day at home ...after a good wash and fettle




















That's what a 3dr should be like for 14.5k IMO .. All original panels and glass mine.. The above pics are only from picking it up and cleaning it and having a steering rack fitted .

Sorry to waffle

Rsmat

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It has now but look at the above pics of when it was original with 89k when I bought it .. You can't get straighter than that for 14.5k with the history and condition IMO

Staffi

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Mat,

That is a lovely example for sure, was it at that Spec when you tried selling it pal??

gjh

You got a bargain Matt, that was 14.5k's worth all day long.

Rsmat

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No mate when I stuck it for sale it was @400bhp .. Ap4pots etc same as the feature in fastford

Sinbad

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I know what you are saying James but there are people out there with better cars than what Bonkers has owned. Folk get too caught up the whole Bonkers saga, yes he has some nice cars but not always the best ?

Staffi

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Exactly my point Sin

Sinbad

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The whole Bonkers thing winds me up Pete, he's a trader and in it to make money. Paul Linfoot makes money and folk call him for it so if Matt sells his car to Bonkers it's suddenly worth 10k more

james kiely

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sinbad , i stand corrected on this so i was always under the impression he owned some of the very best mate .

i suppose thats why he sold the 16k one as a better one had come up lol.

Staffi

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No he sold it because someone offered him 30k for it and doubled his money and then some James

You're still not getting it are you?

Sinbad

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No problem James and you are correct, he does have a lot of good contacts but he is not the Oricle of everything RS. I honestly believe you cannot get any better than real enthusiasts like yourselves

james kiely

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pete ,as i always said to you i will always buy a car on what i think its worth to me not what the market value at the time is lol.

i dont even haggle if the price advertised appeals to me

Staffi

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I know mate, just having some fun you know that

Rsmat

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I walk into the where I viewed my car in Scotland and had a look and instantly said to the wife ... It's mine .. Never knocked or hagled ..him ..

james kiely

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i couldnt agree more mate,i would hate to see these cars being pushed out of the enthusiasts .the price to me is irrelevant whether they go up or down they wont be sold


i know mate

james kiely

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once you want it matt ,the price goes out the window lol

Mr RS500

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I get accused or rigging and raising rs500 prices ,,lol ,

I wish i had that power ,

Sinbad
your correct mate , i do get slated for making a proffit ( even tho everyone has to make a proffit to survive ) Yet i have never been accused of selling a car for more than its worth or a over inflated price

I quess i should sell cars at a loss realy just to keep some happy ,,, lol

scoooby slayer

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that is stunning matt

Rsmat

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Thanks mate

james kiely

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paul ,i would never say your cars were over inlfated in price and a lot of the times you sell some cars at very good prices .

market conditions and exclusivity has put the rs500 out of 95% of enthusiast reach and if the 3dr goes the same way well the rs scene will suffer greatly

can you say if you think that the 3dr has reached the 30k mark?

Mr RS500

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All i will say mate is for 30k i would want something very very special ,

Yes rs500"s are now well above average working mans prices , but limited numbers and the best race hitory of any car ever built has caused the rise in values

3drs will now rise due to the 500 being to expensive , and saldy they will laso soon be worth to much and as you say this will effect the scene as cars will vanish into collections

gjh

I don't think they have, not yet.

james kiely

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100% agree,it would have to be a very special car to warrant 30k.

and now the 500 has gone out of reach for me anyway,i will have to accept that i missed the boat on them and just suck it up lol

and now that the 3drs have started going up ,saffs are following and soon the scene will disapear for the working man,which lets face it is why ford created the rs in the first place

very true mate

gjh

I do wish I could get my hands on a 3 door before they shoot up mind, just think they are epic cars. Sadly I doubt it will happen.

stevecfrst1

I think theyve got far to expensive for what they are and people who own them are just unrealistic with what there worth in general, i looked at one today for 12.5k and it just wasnt worth anywhere near that, would of taken so much time and money to make it right

Staffi

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So if you owned one then and someone offered you 20-25k you would say sorry mate but i don't think it's worth that, how about i sell it to you for 12 k instead

Typical post of someone that's looking for one

Rsmat

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Tbh I agree with that...people that want them.. Want them for next to nothing ... When I started looking 3years ago I was looking and nothing took my fancy .. In order to budge someone off a good one I had to have 16k in my back pocket... Twice I asked about d22 blc and twice I was knocked back ... Then months after while still looking he contacted me and said 14.5k I went to look and the rest is history ... Just from pictures the car was nice but to see it in the flesh it's mega straight and nice in all the right places ...

R5FORD

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3 things I look at when buying a car-

Condition.
Mileage.
Owners.

Mats car is very nice but would I pay 20k for it no thats due to the mileage.

neilscott83

Was it a black 3dr? 15k on eBay 12.5k on pistonheads which I thought was odd!

Jay,

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but that's the general way low miles low owners in a classic will always create more interest BUT

Do you buy the above and the car wont carrying on being not used which isn't very good

Or buy a car with many owners been in use quite often and in great original condition

If I was after a 3dr I would want a none and never moded original car well serviced irrespective of owners/ milage and if it had any resto work then it would of had to of been to the highest standard and most important if ever possible original paint as much as poss , Again theres so many bad but look good paint jobs id rather see its natural beauty lol

stevecfrst1

Im not saying that at all but im realistic with the price when i sell a car, if your not its just a waste of yours and buyers time. If it takes 15k ish to buy a good one then fair enough but people with below average cars ask big money for them when they see others up for big money.

james kiely

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jay i am going to put my new white one back to 100% standard ,it has full history clear hpi all the mot certs so im not sure whether the fact that it was modded before will affect its value as its on original engine number etc?

all i know it will save me spending more on the saff,as it will all be pilfered

Staffi

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Very true