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Old 18-03-2013, 08:55 PM
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Right I'm having a bit of a mental block......


My dads got a 4x4 2.0i DOHC Sierra Estate and we're looking to convert it to cossie this year. Apart from engine, turbo, ecu, loom, front brakes, exhaust etc, what else is needed? Being the 2.0i 4x4 it's already got the 3.9 diffs.

Anything we've missed???
Old 18-03-2013, 09:03 PM
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Fuel pump?
Old 18-03-2013, 09:04 PM
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think the gearbox will be the wrong ratios for a start
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Originally Posted by AJC
Fuel pump?
Good thinking batman...forgot about that

Originally Posted by CHUNKYS RS
think the gearbox will be the wrong ratios for a start
Arn't the gearboxes the same just the donut being different?
Old 18-03-2013, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUNKYS RS
think the gearbox will be the wrong ratios for a start
Not true.

Front hubs and driveshafts are different too btw.

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Old 18-03-2013, 09:19 PM
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The bell housings are different.The starter motor will be in the wrong place.
Old 18-03-2013, 09:21 PM
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2.0xr4x4 box has smaller weaker internals iirc.

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Old 18-03-2013, 09:25 PM
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sticky i would have thought the full brake system ,loom ,sensors eu etc

radiator,intercooler,engine mounts[?]map sensor,
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
The bell housings are different.The starter motor will be in the wrong place.
Again, not true! 2.9 is on the other side as I recall

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Thought twin cams and I-4's were different bellhousings again ?? diffs wont be LSD
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Again, not true! 2.9 is on the other side as I recall
True. Xr4x4 boxes opposite hand
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Originally Posted by AJC
True. Xr4x4 boxes opposite hand
Sorry mate but that is wrong! I have had 3 DOHC 2.0 4x4 Sierras in for breaking over the last couple of years and all of the starters were on the same side as a Cosworth 4x4 box and all of those boxes bolted straight into the Cosworths we fitted them to.

Edited to say I think I read that wrong and you were agreeing with me?

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martins right my racecar has a 2.0 xr4x4 box in it at the mo
the clutch arm pin and the tailshaft need changing that is all ( if using a late 4x4 saph /escort cosworth propshaft)

steve

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Old 18-03-2013, 10:45 PM
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Apparently the 3.9 front diff is very weak, so you may be better using cosworth 3.6s?
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if it was me i would be keeping all the running gear matched i would not mix ratios
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standardish power the 3.9's will be fine

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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
if it was me i would be keeping all the running gear matched i would not mix ratios
You can't mix them, it wrecks the gearbox if you do.
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
You can't mix them, it wrecks the gearbox if you do.
thats the reason i said i would not mix them
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Originally Posted by matthewpickup
thats the reason i said i would not mix them
thats when using a front 3.6 and a rear 3.9 you run a drop off gear in the transfer box
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Originally Posted by The Youth.
martins right my racecar has a 2.0 xr4x4 box in it at the mo
the clutch arm pin and the tailshaft need changing that is all ( if using a late 4x4 saph /escort cosworth propshaft)

steve

Thanks Steve, I thought I read somewere it was the same with a small mod.

If I had my way, it would be 2wd.
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Best bet is to get a full 4x4 and put everything from the cossie in to the estate

There must be plenty of cossies to break
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Again, not true! 2.9 is on the other side as I recall
Or well i was nearly right.So a 2ltr dohc gearbox will fit a yb??
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Arnt the rear suspension arms and shockerd on an estate different.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Arnt the rear suspension arms and shockerd on an estate different.
Correct, estate has 'Concentric' shock absorbers.

OP, if you do a search there is a thread on here, as a member here (ForeignRS) done this.

Martin
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