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Old 08-02-2013, 06:52 PM
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Default still unsure Evo or Boxster

really dont now what to do, want something different Boxster looks a nice car but as people now they suffer alot of engine issues, but i still like!! ive owned ford rs,s and driven and been in alot of very fast cars 560bhp evo, iv had a evo 3, 4 , and 6 , nothing seems to give me the buzz i get from the 4G63T engine, maybe it is a time for a change

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Originally Posted by morto
really dont now what to do, want something different Boxster looks a nice car but as people now they suffer alot of engine issues, but i still like!! ive owned ford rs,s and driven and been in alot of very fast cars 560bhp evo, iv had a evo 3, 4 , and 6 , nothing seems to give me the buzz i get from the 4G63T engine, maybe it is a time for a change

Andy
I realy like my Boxster but it is no match for a good Evo but it is a realy nice car and goes sideways well.

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:10 PM
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Evo 8 fq....
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I wouldnt say the Boxers have as much engine problems as Evo's
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So your saying evos have engine problems.I thought it was only the early evos that had engine problems.
Old 08-02-2013, 07:18 PM
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I read a thread on here regarding Porsche engine problems on the 3.2 and 3.4. Sure it's the boxter engines
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Been in the motortrade ive heard a few stories about the boxter engine not been very good.
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Originally Posted by foci
I read a thread on here regarding Porsche engine problems on the 3.2 and 3.4. Sure it's the boxter engines
They do have a bit prob no worse than a YB, Mine Boxster had a core plug leak in the head so a full build was needed 30hours labour just in the engine build and about 45 to 50hours to do it complete with engine out,
So labour wise and cost of parts its big money.

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Why compare it to a yb lol.A yb engine is over 25 years old.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
So your saying evos have engine problems.I thought it was only the early evos that had engine problems.
Oh yes the con rods and bolts are made from chocolate mate there always shooting or bending rods
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I have the boxster S the engines can have troubles like coil pack an maf but Id say find one with low miles per year an lots of oil changes but also not a garage queen ! its quick , turns sweet and brakes well plus it is a car that gives good feed back so far mines been sweet and its a daily .
mines the s with 71 thou miles full history all mots an sports design 18" split rims

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Had 2 boxsters, a 2.5 and a 3.2 S.

They can suffer from engine failures, but what car doesn't? % wise for the number of cars out there it's very small. Would have another tomorrow, superb to drive and can be made to go VERY quickly on a twisty road, albeit without the punch of a turbo'd car but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Build quality is second to none IMO.
Old 09-02-2013, 08:36 AM
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EVERY car has it's problems, being icky picky you'll never buy anything!

Live for today, buy whatever you fancy.
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Originally Posted by JOHNDQ
Oh yes the con rods and bolts are made from chocolate mate there always shooting or bending rods
hi mate not true really, only evo 4 engines have real issues due to crankwalk and cracked ringlands, this was sortred out by mitzy by changing the main bearings and stronger pistons, evo cranks are good for well over 500bhp and evo 6 pistons with forged rods are good for 550bhp, and oem pistons themselves are not even forged, standard evo,s from e5 onwards are good for say 380bhp with out changing anything so mitzy have done a good job, i was in my mates 560bhp with standard transfer box, the other good thing is just about all parts from evo 4 to 9 fit , so when i built my 6 up from the crank up i got evo 8 MR OEM full gasket set think only 2 gaskets wud not fit, when i built my E3 up i put Evo 9 GT RS pistons in.. all in all this makes the 4g63t a very easy engine to work with..
Old 09-02-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNDQ
Oh yes the con rods and bolts are made from chocolate mate there always shooting or bending rods
Not when they're mapped properly they don't.
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IIRC the main thing with the boxster is one of the crank seals?
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EVO VI TME!!! ... lol funnily enough theres one for sale in the Cars for sale section!!!
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Originally Posted by neilscott83
Not when they're mapped properly they don't.
Come on eveyone knows the standard rods and bolts are rubbish thats why everyone changes them lol mapping is a lot to do with it tho my VII RS runs a stock Engine with modded turbo done 60k and few other bits running just under 400/400 with anti lag with throttle kicker and launch control gets hammered from start up and never gets cooled down its just a trackday car dont give a toss about it and other than a headgasket its never missed a beat. The guy that maps the MoTec goes around the world doing race, rally and drag cars so he knows what he's doing
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Originally Posted by JOHNDQ
Come on eveyone knows the standard rods and bolts are rubbish thats why everyone changes them lol mapping is a lot to do with it tho my VII RS runs a stock Engine with modded turbo done 60k and few other bits running just under 400/400 with anti lag with throttle kicker and launch control gets hammered from start up and never gets cooled down its just a trackday car dont give a toss about it and other than a headgasket its never missed a beat. The guy that maps the MoTec goes around the world doing race, rally and drag cars so he knows what he's doing
People change them after stage 1 but to say they're rubbish is a tad ott most evo's are running 400/400 very rare they go at that power not unless the driver's hammered it to death. A rod job's only a grand if mores wanted anyway hardly mortgage money, the clutch and gearbox would let go before anything on the engine shit itself in most cases.
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Originally Posted by neilscott83
People change them after stage 1 but to say they're rubbish is a tad ott most evo's are running 400/400 very rare they go at that power not unless the driver's hammered it to death. A rod job's only a grand if mores wanted anyway hardly mortgage money, the clutch and gearbox would let go before anything on the engine shit itself in most cases.
Tbf its only the useless 6 speeds in the GSR's that go its a joke Mits even use it they should all be recalled for the RS box my IX box didnt even last 24k
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Evo for me!!
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Porsche for me. Looked at Evo's but it just didn't do it for me. Bought a 911.
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Evo would still be my choice.
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Originally Posted by cjwood555
IIRC the main thing with the boxster is one of the crank seals?
Yep fly end of the crank can weep ,you can put an uprated one on ,also they have a plastic tube with "o" rings that seals the coil packs from the main engine oil they can leak easy fix but a good way to get a price drop !
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Would have a Evo 9GT if I was in your position.
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Originally Posted by Robs Frst
Would have a Evo 9GT if I was in your position.
Agree worse thing I ever done was sell mine the overdrive 5th can be a pain tho
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Early 2.5's are the main ones for engine failures mainly down to the intermediate shaft bearing failing...chances are all the ones with the crap bearings have either been replaced oř have already failed!
Overall they are not bad motors but would go for the facelift if any
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i think theyre both nice motors, but personally, i would have the evo for its rarity. dont see too many on the roads and that makes it a bit more desirable.

the boxster however is too a very nice car, but a lot more sophisticated. you could turn up to a posh venue in a boxster and also hoon it around the track on a weekend.
this makes the evo look a little "less sophisticated" for the dinner party scenario. (no offence meant to anyone with an evo)

it all depends what you want in a car to be fair.

if you can afford a 911, then thats a no brainer!!
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I love Porsches. However, the only thing I'd be thinking while driving a cockster, is 'I wish this was a 911'........

Evo wins. Hands down.
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Originally Posted by martynhomer01
i think theyre both nice motors, but personally, i would have the evo for its rarity. dont see too many on the roads and that makes it a bit more desirable.

the boxster however is too a very nice car, but a lot more sophisticated. you could turn up to a posh venue in a boxster and also hoon it around the track on a weekend.
this makes the evo look a little "less sophisticated" for the dinner party scenario. (no offence meant to anyone with an evo)

it all depends what you want in a car to be fair.

if you can afford a 911, then thats a no brainer!!
What the fuck is a dinner party?
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I went passed a 3.2 s in my old E36 M3. They guy was trying to give it the big one! His passanger was laughing his nuts off.

I would opt for something else rather than the Boxster... your comparing a road going rally car to a soft GT kind of car.

I would go for a E46 M3 or get a stripped out track preped E36 M3 Evo and enjoy

Or another Cosworth
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Originally Posted by Rab
What the fuck is a dinner party?


haha....

never been to one though¬!!!!! lol
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Originally Posted by Rab
I love Porsches. However, the only thing I'd be thinking while driving a cockster, is 'I wish this was a 911'........

Evo wins. Hands down.

thats exactly what i was trying to say, but a little less...........................................

bluntly! lol

i agree though, the only reason you have a boxster, is because you couldnt quite afford a 911
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Originally Posted by martynhomer01
haha....

never been to one though¬!!!!! lol
If I find myself in the dinner party crowd, I'll just top myself and be done with it.

Originally Posted by martynhomer01
thats exactly what i was trying to say, but a little less...........................................

bluntly! lol

i agree though, the only reason you have a boxster, is because you couldnt quite afford a 911
Exactly, I'd rather have an old shagged 911 than a new cockster. I'd even drive a 996 over a cockster!
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Boxster 3.2 = getting quite cheap now but under powered, over tyred dull to drive, horrible inside and not as well built as older Porsche models. Only reason to buy one would be if your wife or mother wanted one! Had a 3.2S was very average thing to drive.

Evo on a different level all together to drive and better built, 9GT is the one to get.
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